$8k Build

So Im dropping some serious cash but Im having one problem, I want a Front Panel display that will show me the flow rate and water temp of my LCS.  Anyone know of a display that will show this info?  Ive seen them on some custom Water Cooled cases, but never found out who made the display and if it is compatible with the LCS system used by DS.  Most of the displays Ive seen only show temp and fan speed which I dont really care about, I think it more important to monitor flow rate in this kind of LCS set up.

Also looking for anyones thoughts on the Zalman "Performance" fans...what exactly do you get with thim that is better than the standard fans? Especially considering Im going for a full LCS set up.

The proposed build:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: Paint Chassis Vents and Grills (Red)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 980X 3.33GHz (Six-Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage III Extreme (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 12GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (600GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (32MB Cache) (Model: WD6000HLHX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 2x (2TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD2001FASS)
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (PhysX) (EVGA SuperClocked+ 015-P3-1485-AR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards & Chipset
H20 Tube Color:Black Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material)
Boost Processor: Stage 3: Overclock the processor between 4.2GHz to 4.4GHz (Requires i7 980X Processor)
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Boost OS: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-Bit Edition)

i agree lol

read the guide in my signature please

On second thought perhaps I need to look into a different vendor.  Thanks anyway.

I don't think it's funny at all...

Some individuals have a large budget and just want to get the best system possible. @MagiK, I'm sorry about the behavior of some of the forum members. Genuinely everyone here would love to help you get the best system.

The Zalman fans are high-rpm fans which provide a lot of CFM (airflow) but sacrifice it with noise. Getting a fan controller will allow you to adjust your settings.

Looks like you want a very high-end performance monster since you've selected our top-end 4.2GHz+ overclocking package which requires a 980X CPU.

I don't see any issues with your build, it looks like all of the other high-end Black|Ops configs we build for customers on a daily basis.

Feel free to contact me, or email our Lead Sales Manager, Sarah ([email protected]) for official and direct help.

Yes i know if he has a high budget or no budget he can get everything. But the thing is he didnt post up what he would be using the computer for or if he just wanted it for bragging rights. He should post usage/budget/res before he goes and picks the most expensive components for his rig n just asks ppl to give suggestions. If he does that whats the diff in just saying i have no budget and i want the best build there is out there so i can burn some cash.

You should of still read that Buying and Posting Guide that !Elder told you to look at... check out the first page of it at least as you forgot to tell us any specifi details on like:
1) Uses for this Computer (games, Movies, Photoshop, multitasking,  etc...
2) Other specific needs... extra storage or LAN parties or if you want a light show inside of it lol.
3) Do you already own a Monitor and what's the Resolution you are going to use and what accesories you want to get with it like gaming peripherals or professional artwork and such...Multiple Monitors?

And please make sure to copy the Configuration 6 digit number so its easier for us to reconfigure it for you....

Originally posted by !ender_ If you want to show us build you've picked / are looking at: -Choose your options in the configurator -Click Save & Email on the right side -Copy the load ticket number, scroll up to the very top right of the page and click "Load Configuration" -Paste your ticket number and Submit, you will be taken back to the config page, the url in your explorer bar will link to your specific config, so just paste that link in your post   You can alternatively just click Save & Email on the right side, then scroll all the way to the bottom and copy the entire text description, and paste that in your post. I think this takes up unnecessary room and can make threads harder to read, but it is quicker.

I just read the OP's post and he clearly only asks about LCS displays and about Zalman fans.

To Memento:
I wanted to be a bit more social and respond to your questions separately.

The first and last product you listed were exactly the things I was looking for, than you.

Noise was the real issue, while I expect when running in max overclock mode I can expect more noise, I want a quieter system when running in a less demanding mode.  Such as surfing the web, and writing documents.


No BluRay needed, I have 16TB of DVD and BluRay stored on my media server and a very good set of drives for ripping and other functions.  The PC wont be used for viewing movies a 30 inch screen can't compete with my 65" home theater Display  ;)

I chose the superclock as I dont want to deal with doing the work myself.  I have in the past built all of my own systems.  Now my time is far more valuable to me than a minor expense increase of the product.  (Im running a Q6600 system at 3.2Ghz right now on Air)  I preferred BFG products but umm looks like they are on their way out of business.

As for the dedicated sound card, I was actually wanting to put that in, only to offload any CPU usage to the card as I want the CPU focused on doing the real work.  It was an oversight in the middle of the night  :P  Quality audio is not an issue for me, I make due with a 2.1 speaker system and my hearing isn't as refined as most audiophiles.

The Liquid cooling the chipset was an issue I intended on discussing, since I maxed out the OC request,

I read Lenders blurb about the Noise reduction packages however Im less inclined to his point of view as he seems be a bit biased.  If Im doing a full on Liquid cooling set up I believe (though I will be sure to verify) that the sound damping material trapping heat wont be a major issue as the radiators is where the heat will be ending up, and with 2 radiators one internal and one external I think the dissipation would be fine.

As for Tweaking the OS, again this is one of those issues of throwing dollars at someone else to save my own precious time...time  is my all important asset these days.  I Have in the past usually followed Black Adder's guides for disabling unnecessary Windows services.  In this case Ill let them do it for me (with detailed discussions as I do want the eye candy and the roll back features but there are dozens of things that can be turned off) and I will  re-enable the features as I want to later. 


I also chose Windows 7 Ultimate for a reason, and realize that for most purposes Home Premium would do just fine.  I know for a fact that MS has a propensity for making future upgrades far less painful for owners of the Ultimate bundle than for the lesser versions.  and I do want to play with the virtual XP functionality but thats just a side issue.  In this case I'm saving myself time and effort later, the cost is not significant in the over all scheme.

As for your parting comment, unlike Lender and Mr.  You didnt make assumptions and your comments were accurate and to the point and had useful information, you didnt just tell me to go read the manual.  Though honestly I never did ask for any opinions on my build  ;)  You were exactly the kind of person I expected to get a response from and I was most disappointed in Lender and Mr, just strikes me as horribly nosy.
Thanks again, you may have saved a sale for DS...they should pay you a commission as I was seriously considering switching vendors. 


Edited by MagiK - 04 Sep 2010 at 12:14pm

After reviewing your proposed builds these are my comments.

1.  Don't like the HAF932 case for multiple reasons,
2.  I can afford the top end extreme processor and thats what I want.
3.  Not a fan of the Evga mobo's have used many prefer the Asus.
4.  6Gb not sufficient for my desires.
5. 40gig SSD too small for my taste
6.  I want the 600Gb Velociraptor for my i/o intensive apps but dont want to pay for that much SSD storage. (however it is not totally out of the question but for now Ill stick with the Velociraptor or possibly the Cheetah)
7.  I have An extensive amount of DVD and BluRay media that will be manipulated thus I choose 2x2TB drive to compliment the 16TB SAN/Media Server I am already using.
8.  I want the super clock edition as I dont want to mess with the OC work myself I just dont have the time any more.  I would have gone with BFG over Evga in the past, not really an option anymore.

You seem to be giving some disinformation in your suggested build as well, there is NO WAY a i950 oc'd to 3.9Ghz on air is going to outperform a 980 clocked at 4.4Ghz.  Im not a noob, Im not looking for other people to tell me what I "need".

My budget and my desire allow me to do as I please.  I have NEVER once asked for advice on my build....no where in this thread will you find such a question.

I shared the system information only out a habit of erring on the side of too much information.  So to get back to the questions I did ask..Memnto is the one who got it right.  I wont call you crazy but I will call you wrong...remember I did not ask about my system configuration.  I asked about LCD displays relating to flow rate and water temperature,  and about a particular brand of fan.

I understand its human nature to kibitz, but this went far beyond that, there was wild speculation and a lot of assumptions being made. Not to mention a level of rudeness to a new member here.




Edited by MagiK - 04 Sep 2010 at 1:21pm

thats an awsome build you are going for
Ds is a really good custom pc company they will go very far to get what you want for a decent price
i am glad you are going to give them a chance 

would been great fun if you posted some pictures of your rig if you end up buying from DS



Edited by Beezie - 04 Sep 2010 at 2:42pm

Memento you read my mind, Main-Gear was the company I was thinking of with Falcon Northwest as a distant third.  The points you brought up have made me think, and since I REALLY don't like the look of the 240mm radiator hanging off the back of the case (Its going to be in a very visible place) Im thinking of looking at the Reserator XT or something similar maybe in conjunction with the 360mm radiator in the case.  I researched the Reserator a while back and liked its looks and the reviews.  I will be discussing it with Sarah soon.  Ill probably try to get the order started while the Labor Day special is on going.

I do have a preference for the larger 140mm fans on the Hailstorm Case.  large and slow moving but still getting the volume to do the job.


Edited by MagiK - 04 Sep 2010 at 3:06pm

Originally posted by Dragoonseal I see you are too quick to fall for my trickery and deceit. So then I guess I have nothing left to contribute, I will bow out and let you spend as much as you want. Enjoy.

Originally posted by !ender_ Originally posted by Dragoonseal I see you are too quick to fall for my trickery and deceit. So then I guess I have nothing left to contribute, I will bow out and let you spend as much as you want. Enjoy.   im with you dragoon, lets stop pretending we know whats going on and take our biased selves out for a drink, peace

I did not imply either of you didnt know what you were doing, what I indicated was you were trying to tell me what I should do and that was NOT a question I asked.
Im sorry we got off to a bad start, Im willing to let it go and move on.  I respect the work you have done, I liked your build thread with the painting and all, something I would have done years ago.  We have different needs, desires and wants.  I am able to allow you yours, please allow me mine.  I could understand if I had posted asking for advice on how to save money or buy a budget machine, but that is neither my want or need....Peace my friend, lets just drop the animosity.

well then lets start fresh, im am aware enough to know that i can be abrasive, even arrogant, its that red hot corsican blood in me...

Originally posted by !ender_ dragoon is very much against spending any money that doesnt have to be spent, but that doesnt make his input invalid(most of the time, ZING)

KIM, I WILL DESTROY YOU.

To Memento:

As usual you are thinking along the same lines I am, again the final fate of that external radiator will be determined after I talk to DS on Monday..assuming they are open on Monday.

Im pretty committed to keeping the OS alone on a single SSD with daily image updates to the archive, any RAID SSD's will not be involved with the OS for precisely the issues you mention.  Im not a major fan of raiding the OS in my Professional life either, beyond mirroring that is. (Im old and set in my ways )
well Older at any rate...  RAIDED SSD's for games and apps on the other hand  that's doable in my build....but maybe not now, Ill give the Raptor a good run for a couple of years.

P.S. in case you are wodering what is with all the editing of my posts after the fact...I blame it on still being waaay behind on my sleep, my typing suffers greatly 


Edited by MagiK - 04 Sep 2010 at 4:56pm

Nuts Im going to miss the Holiday special...oh well you snooze you lose...in this case not snoozing and not having the time to place an order friday may cost me a bit   On the other hand My contractor who is rebuilding my office is hinting at a delay waiting on materials....so Ordering this may take back seat till the office is finished so I have a place to put it.  Maybe Ill catch the next holiday sale...or maybe Ill just order Tuesday


@!ender_

DoH!  Yeah Black Viper, I have British Sit Coms on the brain.  Black Adder is a campy Brit show.  I really liked what he was doing with the Windows Services...I bought his CD after he disappeared for an extended period just in case he went missing again.


Edited by MagiK - 04 Sep 2010 at 5:05pm

I don't think you would miss anything, Sale/Discount wise, because they were finding every possible excuse to give us the 10% Discount ( that fact) from Independence Day to Back to School Day to now Labor Day.... All had same 10% Discount options; so it shouldn't go away any time soon (knocks on wood ).  Also here, look, (I circled it).....