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    Posted: 25 May 2012 at 7:45am
I've been working on a build and researching for about a month now and I'm just about ready to jump in. Found out about Digital Storm and I've been liking everything I see here. Now I'm just looking for some feedback on this configuration I've just about settled on.

Budget:
$3,000-3,500

Expectations:
In the short term, I'm looking for this to be a great gaming machine. Long term, I want this to also be able to handle photo and video editing. I also want to avoid upgrading in the future- really looking for longevity.

Usage:
I want to be able to play games such as Skyrim and Witcher 1/2 on high settings while also being ready for high performance when Bioshock Infinite comes out. Also, by the end of the year I should have my new camera and the CS6 Master collection, which will see me getting more heavily into photo and video editing.

Special Needs:
None really.

Saved Ticket #: 692322

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless PCI-E 802.11n Up to 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b) (Model: ASUS PCE-N15)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Just a few questions here:

1. Would upgrading to the i7 3930K make a significant difference with video/photo editing, specifically the CS6 programs? It will be mostly side projects I work on so while there will be rendering and such, I don't necessarily need it to be super-powerful. As long as this Ivy Bridge processor can handle it, I'll be fine with it.

2. I would like to run two monitors and plan on getting a 23" 1920x1080 monitor. I currently have a 20" 1280x1024 ViewSonic. Would I be able to pair these up or is it recommended to have two monitors of the same resolution?

3. Somewhat related to the previous question, do I necessarily need the SLI GTX 670s or would one GTX 680 and the 750W Corsair HX be sufficient for my needs? I don't really need to max out any games, just want strong performance on high settings and the ability to run two monitors.

Thanks for your input.
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Hi dante.jay....Welcome to the forums.
 
That is a real nice build.  I'm gonna suggest another build with the X79 platform for your editing, CS6, etc.  I'll explain after.
 
Config # 692473   Cost $ 3405
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz (Turbo Mode up to 3.8GHz) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 DELUXE (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

 
For another $100 , I did change mobo to X79 Deluxe.  I don't do editing, rendering, etc. but those that do have loved the idea of the X79's quad channel memory as opposed to the Z77's dual channel memory for those tasks.  I dropped the 6 core chip to the 4 core to save $300.  The 3930 would also help, but it would go over your budget.  If you could swing the extra $$ then long term as you mentioned would benefit from the faster cpu.
 
The Deluxe mobo has WiFi so you can drop the WiFi card.  Also, with the soundcard it would take up pcie lanes reserved for the gpu's on the Z77.  PCIe 3.0 does I believe compensate for that but the X79 has 40 lanes vs Z77's 16 lanes of PCi traffic.
 
I put in the Win7 Pro in case you ever wanted more than 16GB ram for your editing, etc.  Home version caps at 16GB ram.
 
For two monitors if you want to play games on both a sli gtx670 would be needed to play games on high.  The 1050HX gives you alot of headroom for the future but the 750HX or 850w would work but not alot of room to grow.  Your call as always.
 
I put in the 240mm liquid cooler even though I like your D14 pick better.  DS has said they need the 240mm rad for that X79 platform.  You could check with them though.  D14 is very dependable and if you stay at oc stage 1 it might be to their liking.
 
Your build, which is pretty much right-on,  would work fine except I would change the Z77 mobo to the Deluxe to drop the wifi card. 
 
See what you think and good luckBig%20SmileBig%20Smile


Edited by bprat22 - 25 May 2012 at 10:39am
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I wasn't aware of the quad channel memory capabilities of the X79s. Still finding out new things every day that's shaping my build.

I had noticed the WiFi feature of the Deluxe motherboard but just wondered how it compared to a dedicated WiFi card. I won't have a chance to have a direct connection for a couple months and need the WiFi for access.

I actually have Win7 Pro already and was planning on installing it once I get my system in, but thanks for the info. And as far as gaming goes, I currently plan on gaming on a single monitor but will probably stick with the SLI setup for now.

I have no experience with liquid cooling which is why I was going with the fan option. Guess I should look a little more into what's involved if I decide to jump to the X79 platform.

Definitely need to mull over it some more. I've got some more options to think about, and that's what I was looking for. Thanks for all the info, bprat.
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Mr. Dante.

Also remember (not a sales pitch) DS will help you if you call them as well.
I've found phone calls with them super helpful as I had concerns on liquid cooling as well.
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All right, I've been playing around a little more and here's what I've narrowed it down to:

Ticket Number: 693587
Total Price with Instant Savings: $3,496.00

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 DELUXE (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Went to the X79 platform with the Deluxe motherboard for the WiFi. Only thing left to decide is if I'm happy with downgrading the SSD to 120 from 180. It allows me to get under my budget but I'm not sure I want to drop that low for the drive. Still need to think a bit more, but I'm close and getting excited.

And I might just spring the extra $10 for some nice blue LED lighting.
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That build looks great.  Awesome
 
For $10, some eye candy would be nice.Big%20Smile


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Just have one more question. On the HAF X, I noticed there's a dust filter on the bottom of the case. Where I am putting the tower, it will be directly on carpet. Will this cause any sort of issue, especially since the power supply is mounted right there as well?
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I wouldn't place the pc on a carpet.   It would interfere with ventilation and cause dust to get sucked into the case.  A gaming computer, because of the larger airflow should ideally be placed on a desk top or small table, away from the floor where dust and hair like to linger.
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Hi dantae.jay
 
Here is a video of the HAF X case by Newegg. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fqdSPKlMOc&feature=player_embedded The case has feet that raise the bottom of the case about an inch from the ground.
 
Although I would still suggest to get a hard flat surface that you can set on the carpet then your case can sit on that. 
 
bprat22 beat me to it.  I do agree that ideally it should sit on your desk.
 
Just a thought and I hope that helps.
 


Edited by Asangard - 30 May 2012 at 10:55am
All evil comes from within,
Not from Without,
Therefore, the 1st step on the Holy Warrior path,
Is to recognize thyself as thy 1st enemy.
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Thank you both for the replies. I'm getting a new desk to accommodate the new two monitor setup, so I'll keep this mind as I'm looking for one.
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  I'm not good with furniture: hows this?
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That looks really nice, it's just too bad my room would not work with an L-desk. Thanks though.
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Hi dante.jay,

You have a well thought out system and you made all the right changes. The one thing you should do is get the CPU OC to Stage-1. The 3930K is unlocked by Intel so that the processor can be OC. I think it is a mistake not to take advantage of it. The OC provided by DS will not shorten the life of the CPU and it does help with performance. You have the best cooler for a stage-1 OC. It is $50 well spent.

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I haven't overclocked my system before, but as I understand it overclocking creates more heat which in turns reduces the lifetime of the components (of course granting performance gains in the process). Even with cooling, it would still affect the processor's lifespan wouldn't it? One of my main goals is to have a great system that will last me a long time.

If you're saying it won't affect it at all or not very much, I'd definitely love to consider it. I guess I'd just like a little more info about that stage of overclocking before I make that decision.
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Hi dante.jay
 
I use a 6ft folding table for my computer dest.  Inexpensive and gives me plenty of work space.  It also is wide enough to hold all my equipment including my PC.  I am not sure if it would work for you but just something to think about.
 
 
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Hi dante.jay,

Over clocking a CPU does generate more heat but that is not a problem if you have the cooling to carry it away. The important thing about long life is what temps your CPU operates at. DS won't send you a computer that doesn't operate within normal OC operating temperatures. We have many repeat costumers coming back for a second DS computer after theirs has become out dated. Being outdated is generally why a DS computer is replaced. Not because the CPU or other component failed. A stage-1 OC won't shorten the useful life of your CPU.   Go for the stage-1 OC, you won't be sorry.

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Frank speaks the truth.
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Final Build:

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 DELUXE (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Thanks again for all your help and suggestions! I really appreciated all the feedback. Let the waiting begin!
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Awesome    Great gaming and video editing await.Big%20Smile
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