Anti virus protection?!

First Congrats

second all of us will tell you not to use mcafee.

I have been using eset(Formerly nod32) for 10 years now and recommend it to anybody, light fast, easy to use.

Have a look here and get eset and there is a link there on how to set the options in it as well.

if you have questions let me know.

My pleasure and thank you for the kind words.

I would recommend you install the 30 day trial, use it for 2 or 3 weeks and then if you like it buy a two year license since it saves you a $30 over buying one each year.




Go through eset to get their license.


You get free updates to newer versions.

Again any questions let me know

Edited by DST4ME - 15 Aug 2016 at 11:47pm

Avira is a good one but too many false positives:



windows defender is ok av itself.

Ya if you enable the windows av and firewall then you have your av and firewall there, it just happens to be with the os.

I personally enjoy the extras you get from a 3rd party software, the constant daily updates and the info on what and who is doing what. No false positives.

I guess at the end as long as you got something protecting you be it 3rd party or windows defender+firewall thats all that counts. The rest is personal preference I guess.

But ya avira is a good one too if you don't mind the false positives.





If you’re following common sense and other good security practices then you are good with windows av I suppose but I rather stick with what I know is the best.

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Aug 2016 at 3:07am

@Snaike at at last check (few months ago) mcafee was running over 8 processes vs 2 process of eset or other good avs, that is why we don't recommend it, plus its file scan does not score well at all as you see in my last post that I just updated. Now in all fairness those numbers do change from test to test.

Anybody wants to see a review of anti viruses have a look here , av comparatives is a respectable site for av testing

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Aug 2016 at 3:59am

I was just sharing with you and readers why we don't recommend it, I never said you recommended it, just sharing info/facts not sure why you are taking that as invalidating.

Just providing test results from a reputable company for the op and the readers.

If you are referring to my test results I was adding those before you posted, once I added I saw you had posted while I was editing. They are not directed at you. Check the time you will see we posed at the same time.

But if you want to talk invalidating, then if there is info that needs to be invalidated by facts then I will definitely do that, tho that is not the case here.

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Aug 2016 at 3:53am

If you follow what me/db/FO/bp and the rest are telling people you realize we are providing facts most of the times and not our opinion and we pride ourselves and this forum on that.

For example if somebody says you need a 1080gtx for 1080p you will see the people I just listed jump in and say "no" a 1060gtx is all you need, that for example is not our opinion, its a fact, now if you follow most of what we/I say on this forum you will find that it follows the same pattern, facts based on tests.

outside of those yes everyone is different, just keep in mind just because we are different it doesn't change the facts.

If one knows the info then one would know I'm providing facts 80%+ of the time. It is for this reason most times I provide some kind of a bench test or results with my info.

Now as far as chocolate an vanilla goes, if you look at this chart you will see that......

End hijack... returning to thread on AV protection.

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Aug 2016 at 4:40am

I understand your point Sanike but pc parts are like 2+2=4, in other words you can't say you are on a budget and want to save money but at the same time you want a titan for 1080p.

While we may disagree on things facts stay the facts, and if one's opinion is not in line with facts then that person is not going to like me db/bpratt/FO cause we are going to point that out with charts.

I think what I'm not explaining correctly is this:

lets use your example:

you like vanilla Ice cream.

I come by and say "if you like ice cream I would go with chocolate due to its antioxidants"

now another person jumps in that is not so well informed and says "no there is no difference go with what you want"

Now I will jump in and say "hey chocolate has antioxidants, here are the charts/tests/facts"

Now at this point you say "I see, antioxidants are great but I just don't like chocolate"

and I will say, "I understand you have to go with what you like as long as you understand you are missing out on the antioxidants", "if so then by all means you got to get what you like"

now if you or the other person or anybody else wants to jump in and say no there is no difference or say something that is not in line with the facts. I/we will jump in and correct them.

I don't have a problem if you like vanilla, my job here is to inform of the facts (chocolate has antioxidants) and then from there you make up your mind and go with what you like.

what I will not do is sit there and have the op or anybody say that vanilla and chocolate have the same amount of antioxidants.

I hope that makes how I do it clear now.

and this chart shows I'm right




I hope you appreciate that chart took a lot of time

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Aug 2016 at 5:36am

Do not stress about an anti virus. It really is not necessary. Just be sure to download from decent sites and know what you are opening and that includes emails. Windows defender should catch most anything anyways.

Originally posted by darbebo Question - if i forget to choose none for the AV and i got the mcaffee, is it really hard to entirely remove it from my computer? quick googling seems like simply going to control panel and removing it is not enough (i will be getting win 10). seems like i have to download some kind of a program? and do i delete said program afterwards? man this is crazy

What you'll find with DS is a COMPLETE lack of bloatware. You, should you decide, will have to install the McAfee or whatever on your own. One of the may perks with dealing with DS.

The first order of business when getting the machine is upgrading the OS, second would be AV, then you're good to go.

(PS to DST4ME,    )

I use McAfee.  On occasion, someone will give me a file on their USB Flashdrive and it has a virus/trojan on it.  A certain Trojan does not affect Mac computers but will affect my Windows computer.  So I have to be careful if I get a file from someone who uses a Mac.  McAfee catches this Trojan every time, quarantines it and allows me to use the "now uninfected" file.

I stopped using Norton long ago (even though Peter Norton's Programmer's Guide to the IBM PC was a great book, eh?).  I may also stop using McAfee but for now, McAfee does the job I need.  The only downside for me is McAfee's yearly renewal fee.  There are anti-virus programs out there that are free.


Edited by forrest74 - 16 Aug 2016 at 10:43pm

I have used Avast for about 3 years, it's free and have had no issues

The consumer, myself included, have been brainwashed into needing the av software.   I always thought that just what MS offered might do it, but have never seen proof or recommendation to do it.    Since my av is free through Comcast, I have been a little lazy in doing the research.     

Thanks for the info that might get me looking into it.

Originally posted by DST4ME First Congrats second all of us will tell you not to use mcafee. I have been using eset(Formerly nod32) for 10 years now and recommend it to anybody, light fast, easy to use. if you have questions let me know.

thank you sir.
it's good new for us.