My planned build? (Mid size, 3400)

What is the native resolution of your monitor you gonna be using?

Is star citizen the only game you gonna play or are there others if so please name them.

does star citizen utilize sli?

i'm not really sure why people who're only concerned with a gaming rig are jumping all over Broadwell-E HEDT platforms.  lots of wasted budget on 6+core procs.  not only that, but the Skylake proc is much faster and has under the hood tweaks for boosting single core performance in gaming scenarios.   

Originally posted by DST4ME Most people say gaming rig but its still a pc and wil perform and get used for other things so those cores are not wasted, plus the pc will stay powerful longer. IF the pc was only turned on for gaming and never used for anything else I would agree with you, it would be a waste then.

building a pc around primarily gaming usage within a budget = wasted budget space when you build a low end prosumer pc rather than a more mainstream "gaming" pc.  i didn't see anything regarding productivity (rendering, 3d modeling, photo/video editing, anything compute heavy at all).   the fact is, he's spending more for a slower computer.  he'd have to overclock that 6-core just to get it to the default speed of a Skylake cpu.  he can web surf and do general pc tasks just as well on a 4-core.  he can even do casual rendering w/o issue on an I7 Skylake.   if he wanted to build a 3-4 gpu Maxwell gaming pc than i'd agree to go with the X99 platform, but he isn't, so...

This is the reason I'm opting for a 6 core, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ZM4o-DlI

Slower than skylake but they are both not bottle necked. 6 cores will help out with DX12

Not interested in a pissing match either. I agree we both assume however me assuming that its a pc first then a gaming pc is not assuming more then you nor would I call that a fact. Fact is we are both assuming, I'm assuming his use , you are assuming what future dx12/games/etc requierments are.

Keep in mind I didn't advise him on the 6 core for a pc gaming btw.

Again if the pc is just for gaming and only gaming I agree with you but what pc really is?

Our disagreement here is very simple, I'm assuming he is gonna use the pc for more then just gaming, aka heavy multi tasking use, editing encoding one of his favorite videos, editing songs/pictures/etc, plus more at times, also how the pc performs for him in 5 or 6 years. (I consider editing/encoding your fav video/audio/etc, photoshop, etc all normal use)

You are assuming all he is gonna do with his pc is play games and does not care about how it performs in 5 or 6 years.

Then there is him, he has chosen on his own the 6 core without me or you.

So to each his own.

Edited by DST4ME - 01 Jul 2016 at 11:04pm

In all the benches I have seen the 6850 outperforms the 6700k where extra cores are used, I can only go by what I have seen and experienced.

Now in gaming it has not been better then 6700k and I have never said it was. In some games it does offer a few fps at 1440p but very few, for most there is no difference.

Also if this was a 6 core skylake then we would be having a different discussion, my main argument on cores are mainly based on the architecture being the same. New architecture will always have more to offer then the one before it.


@Moritsuna, if you are only gaming on this machine then go with 6700 but IMHO if you are going to be doing other things than just gaming and I'm not talking about surfing or light stuff, if you edit/encode/transcode video/media and things on that level then either wait for skylake to come out with more cores which is gonna be a while or go with what you got.

What the guys are saying is correct for gaming alone the old 6 core will not make much sense specially since its old architecture.

Edited by DST4ME - 02 Jul 2016 at 1:46am

For your single card system, the 6800k is all you need vs the 6850k.  Even for sli.  The only difference is the base and Turbo clock and the number of Pcie lanes form the cpu.  If you overclock, the base and Turbo is irrelevant.   For Pcie lanes, a single card gives you 16 lanes for your card, the same as the 6850k.  For sli you get 8 lanes with 6800k, still all cards today will use, with the lanes not getting saturated. 

But, nothing wrong with the added cores or added Pcie lanes, so up to you. 

Supposedly there will be a new socket coming up, so you will need to replace both the motherboard and the processor. DS computers use standardized components so this shouldn't be an issue, unlike larger vendors that use proprietary motherboard form factors. With DS computers you get:

Upgrades Life-time labor free upgrades for component upgrades purchased directly from Digital Storm

You are still responsible for shipping, though.

Edited by  - 02 Jul 2016 at 11:18am

Okay decided to make the purchase today. Here's what I got

Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 1446359 (Config # 1446359) - Quantity: 1 - Price: $3,420.00 (blaze it!)

System Configuration:

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Coridium
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz (Codename Skylake) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VIII EXTREME (Intel Z170 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX1000i (Digitally Controlled Power)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) (Internal)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (500GB Samsung 850 EVO)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1080 8GB (EVGA SC ACX 3.0) (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i GTX - 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty (4 Year Labor & 2 Year Part Replacement)

I decided since to go with the 6700K 4 core but added money to get more premium components.

Now the waiting game.. Hopefully all the bios/drivers are updated.

Appreciate the feedback. I did get the SC though. According to a hardwarecanucks it apparently has lower temps than the FE lol.

Why noctua? I thought these coolers have no maintenance required. I was also kinda going for a "corsair build" except for the corsair ram haha.

1000 watt was because I may be interested in sli in the future (and it was corsair).

Reason why I want a standard hard drive is because I do want to keep some important files on my hard drive. If it gets destroyed, hard drive files can be recovered easier, unlike SSD.

The mobo was because I needed a mobo with wifi capabilities and it was higher rated overall than the deluxe version.

Edited by Moritsuna - 02 Jul 2016 at 2:25pm

Thanks, I applied most of the changes you recommended and sent a message through digital storms website. How long will it take to update?

(switched to deluxe but out of curiosity, the Maximus extreme offers no gaming enhancements whatsoever? Better sound, better optimization or something like that?)

Edited by Moritsuna - 02 Jul 2016 at 8:41pm

Alright, I requested the noctua but it seems HUGE, should I get the Air 1 instead? It'll be a very tight fit in my Obsidian 450D case.

Quiet isn't as important to me - If I get the cooler master however, aside from sound, cooling performance will be the same?

(What actual cooler is it, Hyper 212 evo?, doesn't say)

Edited by Moritsuna - 03 Jul 2016 at 7:18am

Used to be, and probably still is, the Hyper 212.  Not listing the model number gives them flexibility so contacting DS is needed to say for sure.

Go Noctua.  Pretty sure it fits.

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