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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
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Topic: New PC Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 10:45am |
Hey. Looking at getting a new computer. 3500$ Budget, have two Dell 27" 2k screens. Wanting to play games and max settings (Destiny 2, Witcher etc). Build info below
Item 1 --- Digital Storm Velox (Config # 1781486) 1 $3,153.00 Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Core Components Processor: Intel Core i7-8700K (6-Core) 3.70GHz Motherboard: MSI Z370 SLI PLUS (Intel Z370 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 G) (Fully Modular) Storage / Connectivity Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 850 EVO) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics / Multimedia Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB (Performance Edition) (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Digital Storm Engineering Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i - 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - White - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) Chassis Fans: Corsair LED Airflow Performance Edition (Blue) Fans Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking Software Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows 10 Installation CD Only (Clean Install with No Drivers) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) A few questions, SSD vs NVME? Worth the extra price tag? I would like to get the 7.1 Logitech speaker set up, the MOBO has 7.1 but is it worth adding a sound card to the mix? Also going to request a specific EVGA FTW 1080ti card. |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 3:55pm |
Go with st8ck evga ti.
The m. 2 speed is much faster. Mobo sound these days are good, stick with mobo, if needed we can easily help you add sound card. Are you gaming on both monitors? With sli, m.2 and possible sound card get a better mobo. |
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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 7:20pm |
The Stock Video card meaning the one that comes with it? Don't they use the FE ones? And only gaming on one using other for Discord chat etc. So from a SSD to the NVME you will notice a difference on gaming? And Samsung brand vs DS brand?
Edited by JakeF12 - 23 Nov 2017 at 7:20pm |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 7:49pm |
Ok so for 2k (1440p) a 1080 is more than enough.
In gaming you might notice faster loading but it won't really make a difference in fps that you can notice between sata and m.2, however your game is running on an oscand that os benefits from faster 4k file speeds. Samsung is the king in ssds right now in both speed and quality, one thing is that they actually make their own memory so it's their own ssds. For evga I either go classified or stock, the others are OCed and tend to break down sooner depending. We can easily ocit if needed. But it is up to you. Try this I left the gpu up to you: 1782019 Edited by DST4ME - 23 Nov 2017 at 7:56pm |
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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 8:38pm |
You like the Asus mobo vs MSI? And for only 16 bucks more for 3200 vs 3000 on the ram? And one thing I just noticed its the Picture for the Velox shows a CD drive, which I haven't used mine in like 2 years but its no longer even offered, do you know if its just a gap now or did they redo the case and its all flush?
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 8:41pm |
That mobo here seems to have a better track record, the msi I don't know.
3000mhz is the sweet spot Not sure about cd drive |
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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 4:41pm |
This is my wife's pc..
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Velox Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 5930K 3.5GHz (Six-Core) (Unlocked CPU) Motherboard: ASUS X99 RAMPAGE V (Intel X99 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 850 PRO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Seagate) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H110 280mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) She also just bought some new Dell 2k 27" same as me, at max settings on some games the fps dips pretty low, think adding a new GPU to the mix would help out or should I look at getting her a new one with mine ? |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 5:33pm |
New gpu should do the trick
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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 3:59pm |
think a 1080 would do it or a 1080ti if we never plan on going past 2k anytime soon, its 2k @ 144hz with Gsync if that matters
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Corvette_Dude
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 4:28pm |
Hi Jake,
I would strongly recommend going for the 1080 Ti. I personally have one and love it. Especially since you want to support a 144hz monitor. To me the graphics card is the most important part of your build, more important than RAM, Drive or CPU. I can all but guarantee you will not regret getting the 1080 Ti with this build. I would also recommend that you move to the Samsung EVO vs the PRO. The cost is not worth the small increase in speed which you may barely notice. The savings could be used to get a larger EVO say a 512GB. |
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Corvette_Dude
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 4:40pm |
Jake a couple more things:
1. Unless you are an audiophile I would stick with the motherboard sound system. And by audiophile I mean you listen to music primarily. If you use sound for gaming then a sound card would be wasted. 2. It's good to remember that although NVME is faster than SSD. SSD is even much more faster compared to HardDisk. So if you are budget constrained, I would recommend first getting an adequate amount of SSD first and eliminate the need for HardDisk. If you have budge left over then by all means get some NVME. Bottom line, avoid HardDisk at all costs. For my gaming system 2TB of SSD is adequate. I have the 2TB Samsung EVO SSD and its great. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 4:47pm |
No need to go 1080ti for 1440p very few games benefit. If you have the money and want to its fine, just saying it is not a necessity.
The pro has better quality and speed from evo, its worth it every time. Edited by DST4ME - 25 Nov 2017 at 5:17pm |
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Corvette_Dude
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 5:21pm |
DST4ME - I would still recommend the 1080 Ti for future proofing the system as it is almost a year old and the 1080 is even older and that 11GB of RAM can help. Also if the 1440p monitor is a gaming monitor with a 144hz refresh rate then a regular 1080 will struggle to keep up with it. Sure as I said before pro SSD is faster but you get diminishing returns as cost per GB jumps significantly and speed difference in real world applications (versus benchmark software) will not be that noticeable. Again most important take away is to avoid harddisk even if it means going with a slower SSD.
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Drive a Corvette because life's too short for a crappy car!
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 5:28pm |
CD lol you sound like a guy that needs to sit down and have a beer with us man you sound cool but we can 't say best thing to do is go single card and upgrade every year in one thread and then say future proof in this thread.
I know you know and agree future proof is getting the single card you need and then upgrading it once every 2 years or so or when needed(depending). But like I said nothing wrong with getting 1080 ti if you want to get it. As for ssd its not about just speeds, me and you might not care to have to replace our os drive but we recommend to others and I assure you they do mind, so here we always recommend quality first, the pro works a little different from evo and its memory is stacked differently resulting in a better quality drive with less chance of a failure. On this forum recommend quality and best bang for the buck then if the user wants more then we take it from there based on what they want. So yes avoid hdd but not all ssds are the same and for least headache go with best quality ssd, right now its Samsung pro here. Edited by DST4ME - 25 Nov 2017 at 5:34pm |
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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 7:07pm |
Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Core Components Processor: Intel Core i7-8700K (6-Core) 3.70GHz Motherboard: ASUS PRIME Z370-P (Intel Z370 Chipset) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Digital Storm Performance Series Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 G) (Fully Modular) Storage / Connectivity Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 850 EVO) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics / Multimedia Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB (Performance Edition) (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Digital Storm Engineering Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i - 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - White - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) Chassis Fans: Corsair HD Series (RGB Fans) Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) So after doing a lot of reading / looking around I think i'm going to pull the trigger on this set up, I don't plan on ever using SLI as it has been a pest on this current computer. I am requesting a EVGA video card, the ones they use. Things I gather from you guys is to request the cooler be put at the top. Do the OC myself if I want to. Final few questions, Does anyone know with the amount of fans the Velox uses how many of the special fans I bought will be used? Is it per fan cost? I can't seem to get them to reply back to me. Its taking me a while to go this route vs a new competitor on the market with a lot of flare...but I them saying they will have it built and shipped in 2 days makes me wonder if they do any stress test or they build and box it same day. Any final thoughts? |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 7:31pm |
Need more than 2 days to build and test, proper test takes a day assuming all goes right, never does, if you get an error 8 hours into it, you have to reset, retest which starts a new 24 hr clock.
Velox is a corsair case, not sure which, bp knows, your price for extra fan is set no matter how many of those extra fans is used however I believe DS will replace the case fans with the upgraded fans which can be controlled the case fans cannot be controlled. double check to be sure that they change the case fans that are there. Nice build boss Its the Hollidays and they always get hammered around this time. Contact Alex [email protected] |
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hoserator
DS Veteran We don't need no stinking "Avatars" ! Joined: 08 Oct 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7962 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 3:41am |
I thought the Velox and Aventum cases were DS' proprietary design. What do I know? Wrong again!
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 9:14am |
Yep, Velox is an in-house design.
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Alex
Admin Group Digital Storm Supervisor Joined: 04 Jun 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 16314 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 10:01am |
VELOX, AVENTUM, and BOLT are all unique models designed and engineered by our team. They are not Corsair models.
Edited by Alex - 07 Dec 2017 at 10:01am |
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Tidgxor
DS ELITE The Kokopelli kid Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13000 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 10:02am |
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My Two Digital Storm Rigs: Mr. Bojangles (HAF-X, 2010) & Mrs. Bojingles (Bolt I, 2013).
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 10:00pm |
Lol noted, I don't know why I thought it was corsair
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JakeF12
Newbie Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 6:59pm |
Do you need SLI in order to use 3 screens. I only ever game on one screen then multi task on the other 2. Using Two DP on two and hdmi to the 3rd. Or do you need sli for Nvidia surround which I think thats just for gaming on all 3?
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 7:12pm |
You can do surround with single or sli. But your use is not surround, you just hook up the way you said, just make sure game monitor is dp.
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hoserator
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Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 6:33am |
You can select what your monitors do and sli or not (if two or more cards) in the NVIDIA Control panel.
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