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    Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 7:42pm
I have an i7 920 OCed to 3.60 GHz

My motherboard is EVGA x58 3X SLI with 3 empty memory slots.

My current memory is 3 X 2 GB and is DDR3 1333 Mhz Corsair Dominator DHX

Trying to decide the best approach to increase my RAM allocation.

I am not doing much special and enjoy gaming. My other system specs are in my signature below.

What would the forum members suggest as an optimum memory configuration? Would you toss what I have and start fresh with new memory or expand and make use of the existing RAM cards that I have.

Don't have an immediate issue but thought this would be a good idea to upgrade when I have a few dollars available. I was thinking 24 GB was the max I could run but not sure if it is really 12 GB due to my Motherboard. But doubling my memory to 12 GB would be overkill as it is I think. But 12 GB seems like a reasonable total RAM allocation to shoot for.

Help me with a few ideas of the best way to get to at least 12 GB.

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  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 9:32pm
Keeping your RAM in triple channel mode, the best option might be to go with 3x4GB. Adding on with an additional 3x2GB would also work. Sometimes its harder to match RAM (making sure it's exactly the same) and sometimes more modules can cause issues with OC'ing but either route would get you to 12GB total. Looks like your motherboard supports up to 24GB @ 1600MHz.

Edited by fstcvc - 18 Feb 2014 at 9:33pm
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 3:54pm
fstcvc thanks for the great advice!
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Feb 2014 at 6:40pm
I did some checking on my motherboard and the max seems to be 12GB per the manual which would be plenty anyhow I think. I am looking at replacing the 6GB of 3 X 2 GBs with 3 X 4 GBs to get to the 12 GB. I am considering the following RAM model.

Corsair Vengeance® — 12GB Triple Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CMZ12GX3M3A2000C10)

My board only goes up to 1600 Mhz and this is 2000 Mhz but I am under the impression that higher speed memory will still work even at a lower MB clock speed.

My biggest fear is screwing up my overclock on my I7 which is 3.6 from the original 2.66.

What do the folks on the forum think before I go with this new memory investment?

I am hoping it would be unplug the old and put in the new and be happy without a lot of tweaking and stuff.
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  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Feb 2014 at 9:36pm
The RAM should auto clock itself, but I'd see if there is a 1600 version for less money as higher clocked RAM is usually priced higher.

Here's some on NewEgg - personally, I'd go for the $120-$130 Mushkin 1600 sticks - no need to overspend!!
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Feb 2014 at 6:56am
fstcvc , Thanks again for the input!!
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Feb 2014 at 3:44pm
I learn a little more everyday about this stuff. I noticed that my BIOS was set at 1067 Mhz for my 1333 Mhz DDR3 memory. It took awhile for me to realize that the BIOS doesn't show real RAM speed but only the ratio based upon the standard CPU BCLOCK of 133Mhz. 1067 is 2:8 and 1333 is 2:10. So you really have to look at your BCLOCK first. My BCLOCK is 180 MHZ with a 20 multiplier for 3.6 Mhz CPU so the 1067 MHZ Memory BIOS setting really means my 1333 MHZ RAM is running at 8 X 180Mhz or 1440 Mhz.

So this means if I replaced my Ram with new 1600 MHZ RAM I would have to choose between 1067 Mhz which is really 1440 Mhz or 1333 MHZ which would really be 1800 Mhz

Makes me wonder if I really ought to go with 2000 Mhz DDR3 RAM and set the BIOS to 1333 Mhz so that it would be 1800 Mhz RAM timing .

Of course if I match the BIOS to the RAM speed of 1600 Mhz then the real speed is 180 X 12 which would be 2160. Maybe 1600 Mhz BIOS would then be just about right for 2000 Mhz RAM

All so confusing to old people like me in their 60's.


Edited by Onkel_Ken - 22 Feb 2014 at 3:51pm
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Feb 2014 at 5:37pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Feb 2014 at 3:07am
That sounds way too confusing.

I would just get the ram sticks that match your mobo, as was discussed, set it up in Bios if it doesn't auto clock, and then use CPU-Z to check the actual speed. The memory tab in CPU-Z will display your speed next to dram frequency. Note....The speed displayed is half the actual speed so just double it. The DDR is double data rate and CPU-Z displays the base.

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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Feb 2014 at 8:54am
bprat22,

So true!
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 7:13pm
I went ahead and went overkill and bought Corsair Vengeance® — 12GB Triple Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CMZ12GX3M3A2000C10) I am going to try to run it at 10 x CPU clock of 180 MHZ which is 1800 MHz. It is that or 8 or 12 times CPU clock. One is too slow and the other maybe too fast. Should get it in a few days from Newegg and have it up and running shortly after that.

I know that BF4 seems to peak over 5 GB of memory now when I play it. I have heard that BF4 can use quite a bit more at times. Shouldn't' I guess but it does.

The 12 GB ought to hold me for awhile.








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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Mar 2014 at 4:18am
You should be good for a long time.   Keep it running.
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