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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 12:17pm

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Some of the more knowledgeable members will show up and give advise. Maybe even helped you with those computers. One of the details that will help configure a system for you will be the resolution of the monitor you plan to use with it. Good luck. You know already know you are in the right place. Big%20Smile

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 12:26pm

Yes 8700k and 1070 is a good upgrade but the question is do you really need it? I think a gpu upgrade us all you need, is your cpu running stock speed or oced?

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 12:30pm

Res is 1970-1080 and I am not overclocked. I have noticed that I'm getting close to having to turn down the setting on some of the newer games. It does seem that PC's have hit a bit of a speed bump and the gains aren't as great as they used to be when you get a new machine. They are fun to get though. Thanks!

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 12:38pm

@DST4ME his cpu is not a K or X chip so the speed is limited.

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 1:26pm

Turbo is the same highest cores are 3.8/3.7, you can push it a little higher via turbo multiplier.

@madmxe, is turbo boost enabled on cpu?

1070 will do great at 1080p but then again I'm thinking your 2600 with turbo boost and 1070 will do great also

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 1:55pm

Yes it is. It was overclocked to 4.5 when I first got it. I bought it in 2011. Had some issues and turned it off. I did not notice a great difference so just left it off.

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 2:05pm

Ok your oc is different from turbo boost. Your oc settings were too high. Which is why we tell people to oc themselves, its easy these days.

For you i would recommend enabling turbo boost in the bios and see if pc is stable under l00% cpu load. With good temps (below 80c).

If so drop a 1070 or 1070 ti in there and see if you are happy, if not then order DS pc without gpu, once you get DS pc, drop your 1070 in it.

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 2:22pm

I will go do that. Appreciate the time and advice guys. Happy Holidays!

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:02pm

Our pleasure and good luck

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:16pm

I am confused. How can you oc to 4.5 with a locked multiplier. ie, non K chip. Im%20with%20Stupid

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:20pm

Some leave out the k hose, also the 2600 non k, can be pushed via turbo, its a bit more complicated than normal. Its very limited.

Not worth the hassle, IMHO the oc able version is always the best.

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:28pm

I got out the invoice and it is a k chip. Sorry for the confusion.

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:29pm

Thanks DST4ME. I appreciate your time in answering what are such simple questions. I do my research before asking here. Don't want to appear totally ignorant. Big%20Smile

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:30pm

Lol no worries @ both of you

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Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 3:31pm

@mad you should be running cpu-z for all cpu/ram/mobo info

checkout the must have software thread in the software section here

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Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 2:56am

I would also suggest just swapping your sli 570 for a gtx 1070.   It’ll be a huge increase in performance. Plus less heat, noise and power draw.

The old Sandy Bridge processors, 2500k and 2600k, are still excellent gaming chips.    Ignoring some of the newer storage, USB techs, they still work.   I also still have my 2500k clocked to 4.3.

Benches I’ve seen comparing a gtx 1070 to a2600k vs 8700k shows about a 5% difference.   Not bad for a 6 year old cpu.

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Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 6:47am

Thanks bprat. Appreciate your input and am going to redo my Xmas list.

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Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 7:46am

You are going to be very happy with the refreshed pc and more importantly so will your wife for the savings. Maybe a surprise gift for her. Awesome

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Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 12:00pm

Yes hoserator she is a pretty good wife and I do have something nice for her. I am shopping these cards and there are quite a few choices. As long as its a GTX 1070 with 8 GB ram I'm good right? Thanks again for the advice.

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Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 1:14pm

Originally posted by madmxe

Yes hoserator she is a pretty good wife and I do have something nice for her. I am shopping these cards and there are quite a few choices. As long as its a GTX 1070 with 8 GB ram I'm good right? Thanks again for the advice.

If you have to swing a couple extra dollars toward the EVGA card, it will be worth it. Just an opinion.

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Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 2:10pm

Always evga, great product and even greater customer service, why do you think it is my avatar here

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Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 4:57pm

I'd probably upgrade the CPU and GPU. The 2000 and 3000 series CPU's have shown bottlenecking with current gen GPU's and even more so as we move towards Volta. With a budget of $2k... I'm going to assume it's not just for upgrades, but towards a new system all together, so perhaps the point is moot.

But if you're planning on staying at 1080p, the GTX 1070 will kill. It likes to stretch it's legs at the 1440p mark too.. I'd probably pick up a 1070 Ti if I wasn't going to overclock with an 8700k (might as well get the k vs the non k, that way in a couple of years you can overclock it vs upgrading to a new CPU).

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Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 5:06pm

Lol of course, if you had a 1080 and a 8700k Meller would upgrade it.

When does Meller not upgrade

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Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 5:28pm

I got an EVGA 1070 today al0ng with 8gb of ram to get me up to 16. Thanks eveyone for your suggestions.DST4ME your software links were great. Next machine will be a DS for sure. Keller I had the ti in my hand but it back. Thanks for chipping in though.

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Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 5:48pm

Be careful the 8 gb might not play well with the other 8

Actually your platform might be ok i guess we will find out

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Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 6:06pm

I took my invoice in so they could match it up. Keep my fingers crossed.

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Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 6:10pm

Lol let us know

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Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 9:59am

Ram didn't work at first then I swapped banks and it did. 1070 was no prob. Thanks all again!

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Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 10:07am

Enjoy.

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Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 3:42pm

Nice

Great job and enjoy

So can you turn up the game settings again? Are you happy?

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