Vanquish 5 Build / Happy New YearPost Date: 2016-12-31 |
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MNYSOHTA
Newbie Joined: 31 Dec 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Topic: Vanquish 5 Build / Happy New Year Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 3:54pm |
First off, happy new year.
Long-time lurker, first-time poster, so thanks for all the information up to now on various build decisions. A couple of you - I'm sure you know who you are - have already been very helpful with your advice to past posters, so thank you especially. A few questions upfront and then, any feedback on the build below would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. 1. I've long debated the Vanquish vs. Apollo route, and have landed on the former, primarily due to keeping the cost as low as possible. Please tell me I should not be concerned with quality of components and overall build with this decision. 2. WIFI: does the default option below have WIFI or not? I have seen conflicting information on this. If not, do you recommend choosing one of the DS options for wifi, or simply grabbing one and installing myself? 3. GPU: I chose the ASUS 1070 ROG Strix over the EVGA 1070 ACX 3.0 due to the higher OC speed and extra fan. A couple things on this: A. Should I be concerned around overall ASUS quality and support? Based on reviews elsewhere on sites I will not mention, this is a highly-rated card. B. I assume this card fits in this case without issue, correct? It is, afterall, offered as an option in the configurator, but I have just seen some comments elsewhere that is larger than normal. C. And finally, is the extra $40 over the EVGA worth it? 4. Cooling: Is the air cooling that this "Best" level Vanquish comes with adequate for the heat that this GPU/CPU/PSU combination will generate? I chose this level partially because I prefer to avoid LC and its possible maintenance issues down the road - I know, it's probably not much work at all, but my perspective is I would just rather not deal with it. 5. Storage: It has been a while since I had a legitimate desktop, so my sense of scale is less than stellar; is 1TB enough to store a bunch of photos and a half dozen or so AAA games? (I have a normal amount of photos, nothing crazy). Do you store games on the HDD or the SSD? I think that's everything; here's the build info. Thanks again. Budget: $1600-1700 Expectations: Gaming at max settings for at least the next five years, on most likely a 1080P monitor; considering upgrade to 1440P in future. Usage: 3-4x per week, 1-2 hours Special Needs: None Saved Ticket #: 1576667 Specifications: System Configuration:Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm VANQUISH 5 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz (Codename Skylake) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS/GIGABYTE (Intel Z170 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Performance Series Power Supply: 750W EVGA/Corsair Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) (Internal) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (240GB Digital Storm Performance Series) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Seagate / Toshiba) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1070 8GB (ASUS ROG STRIX) (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: High Performance Cooler with Large Fan and Copper Pipes HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled LED Lighting System (Multiple color options and lighting effects) Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.4GHz (Depends on Cooling and Motherboard) Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Factory Reset Feature (Restore Windows + Drivers) (Partition up to 50GB of Storage) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 15-20 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) |
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Snaike
Moderator Group Just a dude trying to keep the spam away Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9462 |
Quote Reply Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 10:55pm |
Hi MNYSOHTA and welcome to the forums.
I can't answer all of your question but I will give a bit of perspective from a Vanquish point of view. I received my Vanquish March, '14... Vanquish 2 lvl 4 with the GTX 770, 8GB RAM, i5 3420, 1TB HDD, 256 SSD. 1) I have never noticed any "lower quality" part in the Vanquish. Everything is top of the line just like the other machines. The Vanquish line is pre-built (or was, in 2014) as an entry level machine and they could make them prior o the order to have them ship sooner. This, imho, is a brilliant way to hit the entry level price point and still make customers who will return time and time again. Sell 'em a great low price machine and see how fast they come back for their next computer. 2) Wifi... I have an external USB dongle for wifi. They are very inexpensive and can be picked up anywhere. 3) & 4) I'll let the smart folks get in on these two. 5) Storage... I have been piling up games for a few years now on my Vanquish and I've yet to hit 40% on my 1TB HDD. I use the SSD for OS files and the like, but the games reside on the HDD. Besides, if the HDD starts to get full I would think adding another drive in the future would be fairly simple as the case is very roomy. Just my 2¢ on the Vanquish. Hope it's helpful. |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 2:57am |
As far as the Rog Strix vs ACX 3, both cards are a winner, with their custom boards, coolers and zero rpm fan features. Not sure the Asus is worth the extra $40, but it's not all that much more in comparison to the whole build.
The Asus will fit, although it is about and inch longer. You won't see much difference in performance with the extra clock speed on the Asus. Nvidia does limit what each card can do. If that's the reason for buying the Asus then it might not be worth it, but it does have excellent features and nice led display. EVGA, even though it has had a couple of missteps with cooling, has a proven , consistent reputation of being there. Asus has had mixed, from what I have read. Air cooler on the Vanquish will work just fine to keep the CPU in the safe zone. No worries there. The gpu has nothing to do with it, the video card taking care of itself. Hope this helps. |
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MNYSOHTA
Newbie Joined: 31 Dec 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 6:23pm |
Thank you Snaike for the thoughts around the HDD/SSD; sounds like the 240GB SSD and 1TB HDD should be more than adequate.
Bprat22, I may switch to the EVGA card if the difference in clock speed is not going to be substantial. I'd prefer to have the higher level of support from EVGA should something go wrong in the future. Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of zero RPM fan speed? Also, any recommended adjustments at all to the build otherwise? Will this build allow for 60FPS gaming at high (not necessarily ultra/max) if I choose to upgrade my monitor to a 1440P in the future? Thanks again. |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 2:22am |
The zero rpm fan is when the video card fans stay off until the card temp reaches a set temp, usually about 64c. It makes for a quieter computer, even when gaming I found with my MSI version. The video card is typically the noisiest part of a gaming rig and this feature has kept my rig quiet and still great temps. Even when on, they are quieter than reference fans.
The 1070 will play most games at 1440p on high settings or better. I'm sure a game or two might push it but it's a good card. Here's a link comparing 1080 to 1070 at various resolutions, games, etc.... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1714?vs=1731 Edited by bprat22 - 02 Jan 2017 at 2:28am |
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MNYSOHTA
Newbie Joined: 31 Dec 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 12:42pm |
Awesome info; thanks.
I ended up going with the EVGA card; looking forward to hopefully never needing to use their stellar customer service. Is it easy to OC this card on ones own? My order just made it to Stage 3 today. Thanks again for the help. |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 1:05pm |
You can use MSI Afferburner or EVGA Precision to oc the card. I would read up on it, because as you overclock you want to run it under a stress program to make sure it stays stable with no crashes. Trial and error. It is easy and fun once you get the hang of it.
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