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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Windows 10 Update files arrived in my Krypton
    Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 10:33pm
Checked this morning, but they hadn't downloaded yet.  Checked a few minutes ago and there are now 6.5GB of update files waiting in the hidden C:\$Windows.~BT folder.

Should be ready to update tomorrow, but I'm not going to let it do so yet.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 2:53am
Today's the day for Windows 10. As of yesterday at 4 pm, no downloaded files.

Haven't decided if I'll do it today or not.    Probably.
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  Quote Snaike Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 3:24am
In all my years, I've never updated an OS with an existing computer. I've always moved up when I moved on to a new machine. (Which explains why I ran XP so long on my last machine.)

This time, I'm going to try to be on this on the first day. Updating as soon as it's ready.
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  Quote Dax Doomslayer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 7:58am
Looks like DS already has the Windows 10 Home edition in the configurator.  I wonder if the Pro version will be offered.
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:04am
Originally posted by Snaike

In all my years, I've never updated an OS with an existing computer. I've always moved up when I moved on to a new machine. (Which explains why I ran XP so long on my last machine.)

This time, I'm going to try to be on this on the first day. Updating as soon as it's ready.


I'm going to do the update rather than a clean install too, first time for me as well.  But I'm waiting a while to do it...unless temptation gets the better of me. Evil
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  Quote CougarX6 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:48am
Originally posted by Roykirk


Originally posted by Snaike

In all my years, I've never updated an OS with an existing computer. I've always moved up when I moved on to a new machine. (Which explains why I ran XP so long on my last machine.)

This time, I'm going to try to be on this on the first day. Updating as soon as it's ready.
I'm going to do the update rather than a clean install too, first time for me as well.  But I'm waiting a while to do it...unless temptation gets the better of me. Evil


I think I'm going to wait a bit before doing the upgrade, just to make sure all the kinks are worked out. I'm wanting to do the upgrade as opposed to a clean install myself too... just amazed that you don't have to reinstall anything. Hopefully it works out ok.
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 11:07am
Originally posted by CougarX6

I think I'm going to wait a bit before doing the upgrade, just to make sure all the kinks are worked out. I'm wanting to do the upgrade as opposed to a clean install myself too... just amazed that you don't have to reinstall anything. Hopefully it works out ok.


Yes, that's pretty much my reasoning as well.  I've read two in-depth reviews last night and this morning...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/review-windows-10-is-the-best-version-yet-once-the-bugs-get-fixed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29

http://www.maximumpc.com/windows-10-review/">http://www.maximumpc.com/windows-10-review/

...and both recommend waiting 1-2 months for kinks to be worked out.

On a separate note, while the files are on my hard drive, I have yet to be notified that I'm ready for the upgrade.  When I use the little icon in the system tray to "Check your upgrade status," it says that Windows 10 is still being verified for my PC.
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2015 at 1:14pm
Same message here from the Get Windows 10 icon....Win 10 update still being validated for your PC...wait for notification that Win 10 is ready for your PC.   
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2015 at 1:31pm
Delay is probably a very good thing anyway...Undoubtedly there will be issues to resolve after the upgrade for most of us.

For my DS system using the Sabertooth X79 mobo, ASUS has already slapped a Win 10 compatible logo on the board home page....and the board Drivers downloader has WIN10 32 bit & 64 bit choices listed in the drop-down op-system selector.. For my other DS rig with the Sabertooth P67 mobo, Win 10 is not yet listed....

FYI..as to the free version of Windows 10 you get, if you are running a home version of Win 7 or 8 you get Win 10 Home....and if running 7 or 8 Pro you get Win 10 Pro.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2015 at 1:34pm
Also waiting for Windows10 on my DS ODE.

My 8 year old, dual core, Gtx 260 machine installed it on Day 1. Easy install, just sat back and waited.

Come on MS.   
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2015 at 1:40pm
Yup, I'm most anxious to get the P67 running on Win10...Good to hear an even older system was updated OK...Clearly this is the MS Op System upgrade we all waited for.
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  Quote Snaike Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2015 at 10:47pm
Still not arrived yet here, either.
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  Quote GoBruins Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Aug 2015 at 6:41pm
I upgraded my Bolt 3 to Windows 10 this past weekend with only one issue. That being, the display resolution was wrong and Windows would not display the Settings dialog box to change it. A quick Google showed that this was a common issue and pointed me to a patch. All better now
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 11:46am
Well, here I am, Windows 10 files sitting on my Krypton since the day before official release, and the update is still not offered.  It says my PC is still being validated for Windows 10.

So I finally click the "More Information button rather than the "OK, notify me when ready" button and I'm told that "Critical hardware components made by Intel for your PC don't have drivers for Windows 10 yet.  Contact Intel for more information."

However, there is zero information as to what components don't have drivers yet.

Crazy

Thanks, Microsoft, you morons.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 12:16pm
Still nothing here.   Just the notification icon. 


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  Quote Dax Doomslayer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 12:36pm
Here's an article about this:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2321624/windows-10-stalls-as-intel-and-amd-fail-to-provide-driver-updates/

This is something that may or may not help you figure it out...

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-034343.htm



Edited by Dax Doomslayer - 17 Aug 2015 at 12:38pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 1:03pm
Thanks Dax.  

 Well, if I'm reading the second link right, my i5-2500k Sandy Bridge processor is not supported.    My ancient , old pc from the company that will be deleted if I post, Big%20Smile, not sure the processor but will check later, was and Windows 10 has been installed.    CryCry




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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 2:24pm
I'm hearing its the integrated graphics that is not supported by Windowz 10 on Sandy Bridge.    I have a gtx 970, so hopefully this is true.
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2015 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Dax Doomslayer

Here's an article about this:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2321624/windows-10-stalls-as-intel-and-amd-fail-to-provide-driver-updates/

This is something that may or may not help you figure it out...

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-034343.htm


According to that chart from Intel, my Intel HD 4600 is supported in Windows 10 x64, so I don't know if that's the issue.
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  Quote Anthony448 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2015 at 12:59pm
I've done the Win 10 update on my Krypton. Update was successful and updated the Nvidia and Intel drivers. It was running fine for about 2 weeks; all of a sudden this week, the PC is just shutting down after a few minutes of non-use. I've turned off all settings because I'm on battery power. Trying to figure this out.....
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  Quote Anthony448 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2015 at 1:02pm
BTW....can I get a link to the default software that comes with the Krypton? I would like to install some of it back on the machine.
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by Anthony448

BTW....can I get a link to the default software that comes with the Krypton? I would like to install some of it back on the machine.


Your Krypton should have come with driver and software discs in a binder.  DS doesn't have a software download site that I'm aware of.
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2015 at 12:39pm
OK, now it's like they're looking for lamer and lamer excuses not to give me the upgrade.

After the discussion above regarding the Intel drivers, I downloaded and installed the latest Intel GPU driver for Windows 8.1.  After that I noticed that over the last 4 days Windows Update has been reporting that a Windows 10 upgrade failed on each of those days with an error 80240020.

So today I check the little upgrade status app and now there's a new reason for not upgrading me:

"Your PC is set up to log in automatically. After upgrade, you may have issues logging in."

Crazy

I don't know what to say anymore.


Edited by Roykirk - 22 Aug 2015 at 12:40pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2015 at 12:59pm
I got tired of thinking about it and just went to their site and did it manually.   Had a Windows 10 iso burned just in case. But I didn't have any messages of potential problems.   No info at all.

What's the worst that can happen ?   
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  Quote Anthony448 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2015 at 1:38pm
I upgraded via the Media Creation Tool instead of waiting for them to do it. I tried twice with errors before it successfully upgraded. I had to unplug all USB devices to get it to work. Now that I've upgraded, I like Win 10, but I'm still having a shutdown problem. I reloaded all of my drivers and the problem seemed to go away for about 2 days, then I got a Win 10 update and I'm back to it shutting down randomly.

I've been monitoring the heat and everything has been within range, so no overheating and no messages about what could be causing the shutdown in the event viewer.

Any ideas where to look?Oops
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2015 at 2:06pm
Unplug the laptop and remove the battery for a few minutes. Then plug back in and try it. A long shot but it has fixed numerous issues. I'd also try just plugged in, no battery, and vice versa.
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  Quote Roykirk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2015 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by bprat22

I got tired of thinking about it and just went to their site and did it manually.   Had a Windows 10 iso burned just in case. But I didn't have any messages of potential problems.   No info at all.

What's the worst that can happen ?   


Actually, I don't really want to upgrade yet, but I do want to know that I can when I want.  So basically, I'm doing a bit of whining.

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  Quote Anthony448 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2015 at 1:18pm
Well, I took the battery out. Still get a random shutdown. I re-installed all of the drivers. Still get a random shutdown.

It worked great for about 2 weeks after my initial upgrade to Win 10, but now I'm getting this random shutdown with nothing in the event log.

Any ideas? I'm fresh out and I really, really don't want to have to start with a fresh install.
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2015 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by Anthony448

Well, I took the battery out. Still get a random shutdown. I re-installed all of the drivers. Still get a random shutdown.

It worked great for about 2 weeks after my initial upgrade to Win 10, but now I'm getting this random shutdown with nothing in the event log.

Any ideas? I'm fresh out and I really, really don't want to have to start with a fresh install.
is it safe to assume you've already gone through your power options and tried different configs?
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2015 at 2:53pm
If db188's suggestion doesn't help I guess my next step would be to use your Windows 10 iso and install again over the one there now. I believe its Win10's version of Repair but not sure.   I'm assuming you have it burned to a disc or mem stick.
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2015 at 2:56pm
the #1 cause of laptop shutdowns is dust causing heat issues.  you said your heat was within tolerances, but you didn't say that you blew out your air intakes.  are you 100% sure you don't have dust build up?
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  Quote Anthony448 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2015 at 5:24pm
Yep...blew out all the air intakes. Reinstalled Win10 over previous installation. Reinstalled drivers twice. Changed all the power options including creating a custom one that is "balanced". I"m only on wall power, as the battery is still out.

Main drive is Intel SSD, Secondary drive is Crucial SSD and third drive is standard Western Digital disc.

Check disk comes back clean. CCleaner doesn't report any registry issues. Memtest was without issues. Have been running Win 7 without any problems; just started happening with Win 10.


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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2015 at 7:15pm
i don't think it's hardware related since you didn't have any issues before upgrading the OS.  nor do i think it is a power delivery issue for the same reasons. 

can you try setting power options to performance since you're plugged in anyway and change your settings to not allow it to enter sleep mode, remove screen saver options after idle, just keep the thing on at all times and see if it still randomly shuts down on you.  there might just be a Windows 10 coding problem that effects those power options and makes the laptop shutdown instead.    
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  Quote Anthony448 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 6:27am
Actually, I rarely take it off of power; it's been on power the whole time.

Update: At least since yesterday's writing, it has now been up without incident. I did nothing new to it since loading the drivers that last time. I do see that a Windows update is ready to be applied and am afraid it may start acting up again once that is done.

Looking back at the logs; it appears it started acting up after the last Windows update happened.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 6:45am
There are updates that have caused various crashing issues with Windows 10.  Some in Explorer and some not.  MS is working on a fix last I heard, so installing the update might help.  Can't say for sure, but I would take the chance.

If you Google Windows 10 crashes you'll see the updates talked about.

You also have 30 days to roll back to the old OS.   Might be worth a shot. 



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