Config review and questions..Post Date: 2010-02-06 |
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Mekerek
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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Topic: Config review and questions.. Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 4:24pm |
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Ticket Number: 381120
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,816.00 Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=381120 Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master CM Storm Sniper (Black OPS Edition) Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 2x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 0 Config - Stripe Performance (Requires Two HDDs) Optical Drive 1: DVDąR/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (216 Cores) (Includes PhysX Technology) Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional (PCI-Express Slot Based) Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material) Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Few Questions.. Is the EVGA X58 LE good compared to the Asus P6X58D, I have been a fan of Asus for a long time. the DS Hand Tested memory, is this as good in performance/etc as the Corsair DXH ? 750W seems low for expansion, should I upgrade to a 1000W Corsair or DS? ie if upgraded what brand? Is RAID0 the fastest option for a good sized OS drive? (no SSD) I am an nVidia fan, I can't stand ATI, with that in mind, the reviews I have seen say for the price, the SLI GTX 260 core 216 card combo is very good bang for the buck. Is the Noctua D14 better than the other Noctua model and Cooler Master V8? (Yes I want to OC) Should I worry about updataing the Chassis Cooling? Is the $99 buck Noise package worth it or needed? My PC sits on the desk by me, can't put it on the floor or under the desk. Is it worth another 250 or so, for a 5 yr warranty or will this machine be irrelivent in 3 years? Anything seen in this config I can do to pull down the price? Ideally I would like about 2500 total. Thanks for the input!! |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 8:25pm | ||||||||
what res are you gonna be gaming at?
I love nvidia also but with lack of dx11, I hate to say it but ati has the best bang for the buck. evga has better support, I sure to be a fan of asus but I would not recommend them again. raid does not help seektime and only helps with large files, why don't you go with a veloci instead of raid? when you say you want to oc does that mean you want DS to oc or you gonna push it yourself? I need to change lot of stuff in your build, list the res you are gonna game at and I will fix it. |
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Herniter
Groupie Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 133 |
Quote Reply Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 8:45pm | ||||||||
Considering your budget the EVGA X58 LE is a great board, I'd stick with it.
DSs memory should still be high quality brand name memory. I'd say you're safe to go with it.
You could might be able to get away with 2 of the new 400 series Nvidia cards with a 750W PSU but I would go with the 1K Corsair PSU if possible. The 750W is plenty for 2x 260s.
One of the 10k HDDs will outpreform 2 7200 RMP drives in Raid 0
If you refuse to go with ATI I would just stick with one 260GTX and wait the months for the 470 or 480 to come out then upgrade to one of them.
D14>D12>V8. D14 seems to be ~2C lower than the D12 under load. The D12 should be fine for a stage 1 OC.
Probably not necessary.
With a decent headset or speaker system it will be a non-issue.
Edited by Herniter - 06 Feb 2010 at 8:54pm |
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Mekerek
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 12:47am | ||||||||
As far as resolution, I have a 28" monitor that does 1920x1200 and I like to play my games full screen max resolution.. i don't ever like to pipe down to low resolution for speed. So as much as I can get for the money.
OC I will be doing the Free stage one.. but if I get up to it later I might OC more than the free settings after I have learned and seen what DS even does. Certainly not something I am going to do lightly. PS... yes I really despise ATI, I would rather pay the price and go with something lesser by Nvidia. I don't know how much DX11 is going to be an issue going forward. Games I play.. Lord of the Rings Online, BattleField (all of them including the new), Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Mass Effect2, and other various MMOs..and TF2 sometimes. Hope that helps.. Edited by Mekerek - 07 Feb 2010 at 12:49am |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 4:51am | ||||||||
in the next few months there is going to be atleast 6 dx11 games coming out and then there is going to be even more.
why don't you want for the fermi then? if you want to push the oc yourself then you may want to think about LC. let me know what you think about waiting for fermi and LC and I will config a system for you. Herniter, there is no way I think anybody can sli 2 fermis with a 400w psu. |
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Mekerek
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 10:26am | ||||||||
I looked at the list, my question is this, if I don't have directx11 that affects how it looks but not FPS right? I mean it won't be as pretty but will still run fast? I admit I am even after looking around for reference a little fuzzy on what DX11 is going to bring to the table. I just have bad problems with ATI, I also want something faster for cheaper which I know is kind of at odds.. and had read many reviews that the SLI 260 did great stuff and beat lots of the upper cards at half the prices. Can you recommend with an ATI or 260s?
I don't mind LC, I have just heard lots of stories of it failing, not working when shipped, etc and that scares me from it a little. If it doesn't have those issues and is stable and easy to maintain and more quiet than AC then I am game, it's just something I have never messed with. I have been in the computer fields for years, I have built my own rigs many a time, I know enough to get things put together. I have OC'd before lots of years ago when there wasn't as much to tweak but overall I have done vanilla builds that are just stable rigs but not super power. So I know the ideas behind things I just don't know the details or have the experience it takes to be confident about OCing stuff right now to the point of it being good and stable. PS.. my wife is telling me that if the guys who are in the know say use ATI .. i should use what they think is good :) Edited by Mekerek - 07 Feb 2010 at 2:18pm |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 3:45pm | ||||||||
cards that support dx11 will do better in fps in games that are dx10 and dx11.
if you don't like ati that much, just wait 30 days, nvidia is coming out with their dx11 cards (fermi) then. for your res a 260 is not enough, you would need 2 x 260 or 2 x 275 or the best option currently being 1 x 5870. if you like to stay with stage 1 oc and if all you are doing it mainly gaming then I would recommed you stay with stage 1 oc then you don't need LC and air will be fine. also the noise package you had listed is completely pointless. Here you go Ticket# 381439 --- Price: $2403 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2403 Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master CM Storm Sniper Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - Not Available Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: - Not Available Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty If I were you seein how you like nvidia I would wait for the fermi. |
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Mekerek
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 9:52am | ||||||||
So here is a question DST.. if I am not in a hurry, should I wait to get 1 Fermi nVidia card if I don't want to go ATI?
Here is the issue, if I go ATI now because that's the best, my upgrade path in the future is another 5870 ATI correct? So I am stuck with ATI for 3-5 years. If I wait a month I get a Fermi card and then upgrade later to another Fermi. So really is the Fermi going to be the best out there when it's released (Q1? March?)? By the way, thanks for your time and effort with this nVidia nub :) |
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Muz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 10:36am | ||||||||
I like ATI over nvidia products personally but the fermi's are well worth the way. Especialy now since they are comming in about a month. If you can hold off till then, i will say hands down wait for the fermi models. Thats what i'm doing myself and will probably drop about 2500 or so on a new system here.
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Mekerek
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 11:39am | ||||||||
Has anyone seen pricing? If it's close to the 5870 then I can price out a system and figure out how much it's going to cost roughly.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 11:39am | ||||||||
keep in mind that if you want to run current games at max settings, no Graphics card will do that for 3-5 years, usually 2 years is about all.
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Muz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 4:28pm | ||||||||
Pricing is anyones guess but knowing nvida's track record, i will guess that it'll be around 50-100$ more. Again, just a guess. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 5:57pm | ||||||||
we have to see, I'M sure the first 3 month prices will be up but then they will drop some.
justin is correct, there is no real future proofing, if one card is all you need now, I would just go with that, in 2 or 3 years, get a new card which like the 5870 all it will probably need is its self, so what card you had before it will not matter, just like if you were to upgrade right now, instead of a old dual cf or sli ati or nvidia, all you would need is a 5870. |
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Herniter
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 9:46pm | ||||||||
I said 750? |
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