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    Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 2:55pm
Ok..Well I am trying to decide on what to buy and where to buy it..I have narrowed it down to Digital Storm and iBUYPOWER...I have gone thru configuration after configuration..I'm at a loss as what to do..I am looking to spend around $3500-$4000..I want something that will sorta future proof me..Something I wont have to mess around with for a very long time..All I do is play games with my computers,thats it. Games like COD 4 and 5, L4D..So alot of FPS games a few RTS..I want something that will rip thru any game today and will still be  tearing it up a few years from now...I am new to posting,but not new to these forums..Seems like alot of you have some good insight,maybe someone can pick up something I missed or give me some fresh ideas..I have a decent rig now,but I want something better.
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The more experienced guys are going to want to know what resolution you play at.  (They guys here helped me "build" mine)
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 3:07pm
I play at 1920x1080
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 3:48pm
iBUYPOWER sucks, if you want to go just by price then you will be in for a nastly surprise down the road when your parts breakdown and you find out exactlh why ibp is cheaper, I wouldn't buy one of their pcs if you paid me.

as for a config here:

Air cooled:

Here you go Ticket# 319692 --- Price: $3058 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2808

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (128GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: CMFSSD-128GBG2D)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-U12P High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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Liquid cooled:

Here you go Ticket# 319693 --- Price: $3224 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2974

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (128GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: CMFSSD-128GBG2D)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:UV Redish Pink: Medium Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 4:20pm
Nice,thanks for theose configs.I can understand your loyalty,thats awesome,but when it comes down to it,Isnt a CPU a CPU and a GPU a GPU?.The Hard drive is a tad small,fast yes,but small..I put this together,maybe take a look at it and see whats what.I like the cost of your systems better..However,I have a GTX285 OC 1GB now,I would be sorta going backwards if I was to get 275's right?


Ticket Number: 319704

Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 1200W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Quad (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:UV Blue: Medium Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 4:25pm
If you have a GTX 285. Why not just put it in your new system or buy another GTX 285 and SLI it. Sort of pointless to get 4 GPUs for only 1920 x 1200.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 4:32pm
OK hold on, I don't work for DS and have no reason for "loyalty", I'm just a customer like you.

Yes CPU is CPU but it does not work like that, how do you know you are not getting refurbished parts from ibp? how do you know you are getting all the fans with HAF for example, in the past we have seen ibp no include certain parts or take shortcuts.

their customer service is not the same, the parts they use are not the same. check their BBB rating against DS and you will see.

I won't spend my money with ibp not because of any loyalty to DS but because I'm a smart shopper, I have done my homework and I know don't want the headache and problems that come from owing a ibp system. DS has a much better track record and customer service, for this reason they get my business.

the difference between a stock 285 and 275 is 4 fps, 2 x 275 out performs 1 x 295 in games that support sli and even better in games that don't support sli, so going 275 is not going back-wards in anyways.

in short my system is more powerful then the system you have above.

you won't notice the difference between a 920 @ 3.6GHz and a 950 @ 3.6GHz, you will see no performance gain what so ever from 1600MHz ram vs 1333MHz.

your 1200 PSU is something you don't need at all and will just add lot of noise and heat to the system that is not needed.

for 1900 x 1200, 2 x 295 is pure waste, and above 60fps you will not even notice the difference, we can come and remove one of those 295 in the middle of the night and you will never notice the difference in your gaming.

my config left a lot of room in your budget so that you can make HDD1 a bigger size if you like and still be within your budget.



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  Quote Jingping Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 5:10pm
What DST4ME said; Digital Storm has an A+ rating with the BBB, and has only had a total of 16 complaints with the BBB across 3 years.  IBuyPower has a total of nearly two HUNDRED and fifty complaints in the same time frame, and a B- rating.  That should tell you something.  I thought about buying an iBuyPower PC as well in the past, due to the significant cost savings...but after serious research on the huge level of issues people have had with them, I opted for DS, and the experience was flawless.  I have no qualms in describing them as quite possibly having the best QC/CS in the business, or at least that I have ever experienced.

Google 'Digital Storm' and 'complaint'.  You'll get 741 hits; the first hit is their resellerrating (above 9 in lifetime and past 6 months), their BBB (A+ rating), www.complaintsboard.com (only one 'complaint' which is actually a review that describes the company as 'outstanding'), etc. etc.  Within the first five pages (all I cared to look), I couldn't find a single actual complaint against Digital Storm.

Google 'ibuypower' and 'complaint'.  You'll get 9850 hits; a brief glimpse of their first few hits shows the likes of "IBuyPower.com is [...] was a web of lies and problems straight from the beginning", "A warning about ibuypower", "DOA and they charge you to take it back", "iBuypower, Poor customer service and technical support", etc. etc.

I'm not saying that ibuypower is incapable of producing a good machine, but when you're plonking down mid-four digits worth of hard cash (a third of the cost of some new cars!), I personally am willing to go with a company that I feel I can unquestionably trust with my money to produce a system that was worth it.

I purchased a system from them two years ago, and still feel very strongly towards this company, as you can tell.  There are companies who have an equivalent reputation quality and service, but they'll cost you a way higher premium.  In my opinion, they are not one whit inferior to what Alienware was like before they sold out to Dell; incredibly skilled, incredibly customer-oriented, with ass-kicking machines that come at a (reasonable) premium. 


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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 6:07pm
I know you dont work for them bud,I'm saying is you like a store and think they have good deals and treat you good,you are loyal customer to them,that's all..

If one was to "future proof" a system,isn't overclocking severely cutting the life of the CPU in half?Cry

Doesn't having a smaller power supply cut down on future upgrades?

If I were to use the 285 that I have now,wouldnt the clock speeds interfere with each other when I run them in SLi? its from BFG and is overclocked..


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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 6:09pm
Jingping,thank you for bringing that to my attention,I didnt know there was that many negative things against !buypower..
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 6:29pm
I like DS because I researched everybody else, found out that DS has the best quality and service, I don't like any store just for the heck of it so if I like a store, its because they are the best in their field so its not what you thought.

future proof is not really realistic, how future proof is a person with a sli 8800 gts and current games at the highest settings and 1900 x 1200.

to be honest pass 3 years you will probably need more powerful GPUs.

1000w will handle whatever you need for the future, 1200 is too much for anything.

if you sli your 285 with a stock one then they will run at the speed of the slower one.
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 6:57pm
Future proof is what I would call it,I went from 7800GT's in SLi to 7900GTX's in SLi then I went to 8800gt's in Sli now I  have the GTX285..I had a AMD FX-60 liquid cooled 2 gigs to now a 750i mobo with a intel E8500 air cooled 4 gigs...All in the time spand of about 4 years..I just want something that I dont have to toy with for the next few years of my life..I want someone to take care of me if I have a problem,instead of trouble shooting it myself..The AMD rig was from Alienware,before Dell bought them..Great rig,but I could never really understand anyone when I called there...Being a single father doesnt leave me much time to screw around with this stuff anymore,let alone play games,but when I do I want settings on high and not have to worry about it locking up or freezing or this or that and if it does,I want someone to goto,not try to figure it out on my ownBig%20smile

From what I have been reading in these forums,it seems like this is the company to goto..So far.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Aug 2009 at 7:26pm
for the next 3 years 2 x 275 should do whatever you want, the same with 2 x 285.

this is the place to go to, that is why most of us are here
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2009 at 8:02pm
I was thinking if I didn't get a video card with my system.. I could put that extra $$ towards some upgraded parts?..Just ask them to run the dongles for the card/s? ..Anyone know if they would do that or anyone has done it?

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  Quote Evening Star Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2009 at 8:13pm

I like the thought of having them fire up the system and do there testing there.  That way you know everything is working and in order before it ships.

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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2009 at 8:29pm
Then maybe go with 1 GTX2851GB and have them run the dongles for the card I own?...1000w power supply should be sufficent? And if I went for a 3rd card Would it still handle  it?
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  Quote Evening Star Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2009 at 9:24pm
I'll let one of the more knowledgable guys answer that for sure.  I think the 1000w is fine for two cards for sure...don't know about the third card.  (Don't take my word for it though)
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dude a 750w would be sufficient, 1000watt will easily run your 285's
and it will run 3 cards as well

im not sure what you mean by future proofing, but game developers cant keep up with the GPU's being put on the market anyway, it will be long before you ever have a game give you problems (maybe crysis 2 :O)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2009 at 11:42pm
Originally posted by Davis

Then maybe go with 1 GTX2851GB and have them run the dongles for the card I own?...1000w power supply should be sufficent? And if I went for a 3rd card Would it still handle  it?


there is not point in wasting money in things you will see no performance gain from, a 1000w can easily run 3 x 275 or 3 x 285, if I were you, I would just stick with the 1000w and 2 x 275, this way you got what you need and have room for more should you get a bigger monitor down the road.
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2009 at 11:49pm
I'm saying I don't wanna spend all this coin and  be SOL next year..So I want to have the components that will go the long haul..No one cant predict the future,but I want to have enough muscle to get through any game that's put out today and next year..This will be the last pc I buy for many years,so when I say future proof I dont want to have a 650watt because its ok for now,I want a 1200w so that no matter what I get I dont have to buy a power supply 2 years from now,you see?..People dont seem to understand future proof,so if I re-word it as "preparing for the future" that might help people understandStar

I just dont want to be like damn I should of got this or that when I bought this pc.

But like crysis 2,when it comes out,I want to be able to play it and not worry about whats under my hood.Tongue.

I have a 23 inch monitor and game on 1920X1080..If I have a 285,I think the smart thing would be get a 285 and slap mine that I bought 4 months ago in there so,just run SLi with those.


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  If you want GREAT Tech support ( you won't know until you need it how important that is) and Quality (NEW) components I would opt for a DS system. I did about 2 months of research before I ordered my DS system . I even went so far as to call Tech Support  for each system I considered to find out WHERE techs were located. Let me say that having USA based support is RARE. Only found Falcon Northwest and DS to have that. My last system WAS from Falcon and now I own a DS system because Falcon slipped a little in what they offer for the price. Ibiypower ??!!  Please son't waste your money ,I put them in the same category as Cyberpower--hell their adds even look the same !!CYBER has 28% failure rate on delivery ,bet Ibuypower is not far from that. Do yourself a very large favor and either listen to advice on this forum as to which system to get or sall Sarah at DS --they are very helpful figuring the best bang for the buck and won't try to "over-sell" you as far as my experience goes.Also in the same 36 month time period CYber has had over 500 complaints to the BBB (Most unresolved) and DS has had 16 (most resolved). THINK about it.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 1:33pm
the sysem I configed for you is setup so that you can handle whatever comes your way, I don't think you understand, now or future you have no use for a 1200w psu, the 1000w can handle what ever is gonna come out in the next 3 years as far as we know.

Why do you think we are telling to not get the 1200? cause you will have not use for it and its noise and heat is gonna be an issue you don't need.

if you have a 285 already then ya, get a 285 now then slap the one you have next to it.
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

the sysem I configed for you is setup so that you can handle whatever comes your way, I don't think you understand, now or future you have no use for a 1200w psu, the 1000w can handle what ever is gonna come out in the next 3 years as far as we know.

Why do you think we are telling to not get the 1200? cause you will have not use for it and its noise and heat is gonna be an issue you don't need.

if you have a 285 already then ya, get a 285 now then slap the one you have next to it.


I know broWacko..Was just using 1200w as number compared to 650w..I am going to go for a 1000w I think thats the best course of action..Sorry if I'm being a pain in the azz,just when I spend this type of money,I like to look at it from all angles,have all my facts straight..Spend $3000 when $3200 could get you something THAT much better,ya know?

A good question I thought about today at work was,if I go for the 920(which would save some coin) and have it overclocked to stage 2 and have stage 3 cooling and havea  5 year warranty if it burns out in 5 years will it be covered? Is the HAF 932 a good choice for a case?..Seems alot of folks going with it..Thanks everyone for the input and advice so far..Its really helping me..
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Quick look at the config..I think this might be it...

Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: Gear of the War (Pre-Install, apply updates, and test gameplay with my syste
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 5 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 2:50pm
sorry about that I thought you meant the 1200w literary.

just because you have a oc of 4.0 on a 920 does not mean it will die in 5 years, but going with a 5 year warranty is a great idea.

Get the "fan only" for memory.

I would drop the veloci and just go with a 500GB HDD now and then later this or H1 of 2010 upgrade to a ssd, this is very easy and we can walk you thru if you like. (I know you didn't want to make changes but this one is worth it and easy to do)
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

sorry about that I thought you meant the 1200w literary.

just because you have a oc of 4.0 on a 920 does not mean it will die in 5 years, but going with a 5 year warranty is a great idea.

Get the "fan only" for memory.

I would drop the veloci and just go with a 500GB HDD now and then later this or H1 of 2010 upgrade to a ssd, this is very easy and we can walk you thru if you like. (I know you didn't want to make changes but this one is worth it and easy to do)


Sure bro,what would you suggest?

I know it may not die in 5 years,but if it does because of the overclocked aspect of it,I was wondering if it would be covered(piece of mind)..Like you said 4.0 is 4.0 weather its a 920 or a 975
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OH ya, if the CPU dies without you pushing it too hard yourself, its covered, that is one of the things we love about DS is that when you OC, the OC they do is covered under warranty.
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 2:27am
That is good to know..By the time 5 yrs have past I am sure I will want to get something new that's on the market..But at least I know I'm solid for 5 years and dont have to worry about anything breaking down,and if it does then I will be taken care of..Thats a great piece of mind in itself!!

I made this config instead,check this out..I want to spend around 3500,so with the current promo it will be $3542 and $3242 after promo takes effect, even better..Pretty sweet deal..I'm starting to narrow it down,thank god.

Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 0 Config - Stripe Performance (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 2:58am
this would be better IMO:

Here you go Ticket# 321829 --- Price: $2876 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2676

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-U12P High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

you better hurry and order otherwise the promo may not be around.



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  Quote venom Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 5:16am
Id suggest getting the 1333MHz RAM, 1600 will not make a difference performance wise in games.

You could get the 2x275 and sell the 285 you have now, that way if one of the cards dies, you get a quick replacement from DS versus waiting for an RMA from the manufacturer.  Also, if the brand of your 285 is XFX or ASUS, good luck getting an RMA quickly/easily or having that card last a long time.

I'd also suggest the Noctua + Stage 1 OC, saves a lot of money, and performance will not improve much past 3.5-3.6GHz for games.

Just so you know, in a RAID 0 setup, if one HDD fails, you lose everything.  But if the speed increase is worth the risk, go for it. :)


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 7:18am
the price difference is like $9 now venom that is why we have started recommending the 1600MHz, otherwise you are right.
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2009 at 2:08pm
For a diff of $9 might as well right?
Getting 2 275's is just about $200 more,so I think the smart route would to be getting 1 285 and use the one that I have which is just about brand new...If one craps out I still have the other one.If they both crap out god forbid lol I can send one to DS and RMA the other one and slap my ole 8800GT's in...

I think Stage 1 overclock is sufficient,not that much of a difference for the almost $150 more for stage 2..However why would I NOT go with liquid cooling? This room gets frickin HOT!!! wouldn't it be safer and more efficient for an overclocked  CPU that will be generating more heat?..The Noctua will be getting the heat away from the CPU but throwing it back in the case,where the radiator of the liquid cooler will throw it out of the case. 
I can see your point about the HDD's,with that said I will go for one drive..I'm not a big risk taker when it comes to spending money lol.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2009 at 3:52pm
with the haf there is plenty of airflow, so you don't have to worry about the heat staying in the case, however if your room temp is hot to begin with then I guess frostbite would be a good idea.
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  Quote Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 1:49am
On the 932 there are Fans on the top abnd the back correct?,by getting the upgraded fans does anyone know is DS will put additional fans in the case?,anyone know how many there are to begin with?
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