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  Quote SoCal65 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Don't Buy Any New Computer Right Now
    Posted: 12 May 2016 at 1:21pm
nVidia is releasing two new graphic cards, the GTX 1080, end of May, and GTX 1070, early June, at price points of $599 and $379.

Both of these cards are faster than the behemoth $1000 nVidia Titan X card.  The GTX 1070 will be the true killer at that price.

So, wait until these cards are available before buying any new system. I'm sure DS will be adding them to their configurator after they are released.

Want all the specs, do a google search or search on YouTube.

Incredible, nVidia just obsoleted their entire video card lineup!

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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2016 at 5:31pm
until i see real bench marks (in a traditional gaming environment) i'm not jumping on the hype train.  i seriously doubt the 1070 will out perform Titan X in real world "normal gaming" bench marks.  faster clock speed isn't everything.  consider that the 1080 is only expected to be ~17% more performance.  how then can a cut down 1080 be near that at $200 cheaper?  still, if it gets even close it's obviously a better price>performance deal.     

also, first run cards are going to be the more expensive versions: $700 and $500 respectively.  "Founder's Edition" doesn't mean extra performance or even custom.  it means they have such low quantities of them that they are offering reference cards at a $100 premium to early adopters. 

imo, if you're holding up your new system build for Pascal, hold it up for the HBM2 versions to come 9 mos later. 

well, since Nvidia did stop production on Maxwell i guess you're right.  however, remaining stock should be falling in price, so good deals should be available.  and let's be real, does the 1080 do anything that can't already be done by the 980ti/Titan X?  who cares about max fps, or even average fps.  the real number should be minimum fps.  can 1080 run 4k above minimum frame rates that would negatively impact the playing/viewing experience?  i doubt it.  so that means you still need 2 cards for 4k+.  so i'll ask again, what can 1080 do that Titan X/980ti or even 980 can't (besides power savings)?

1070 is a different animal (as you pointed out) because it does move the goal posts further.  especially when consumers will be able to get it (later) at $400.  if the 1070 out performs 980 (as expected) and perhaps equals 980ti/Titan X you now get all resolutions below 4k for $400 whereas 970 was great for maxing out 1080p.  1070 isn't great at $500 though.  it's not horrible, but i'd wait for the msrp price point.         
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I have to admit I AM on the HYPE train I was all ready to pull the trigger on a new system. This card release stopped me. Remember now... the Titan X is 3 years old this month!

I must have watched 2 hours of information and prototype testing of the new card. The technology leap is pretty staggering on paper when you compare the speed increases to the last generation. It is not a 20%-30% as you would typically expect, it is almost double in some places. The price point is very reasonable but...

Even if you do wait for the release you are going to get air cooled only (not that this is a bad thing) so then you are probably looking at another month or 2 for the water-cooled jackets to come out and be available. Plus you have no idea of real world performance or you ability to actually get the card. DS says they expect to get the cards in June but would not let me place an order with that card in the configuration and just wait on it so I am a bit bummed.

So yea, if I had SLI 980s in my current system I would not be sweating it at all but when it come to buying a new system. I, personally, will be waiting (unless DS wants to give me some seriously discounted 980's)

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  Quote SnowandSand Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2016 at 7:57am
Originally posted by DebianDog


Even if you do wait for the release you are going to get air cooled only (not that this is a bad thing) so then you are probably looking at another month or 2 for the water-cooled jackets to come out and be available.

 


I read a response from EK on another forum that they would have water blocks ready for the 1080 on launch day.  With that being said I am quite happy with my 2x 980TI strix cards.
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  Quote Visibilities Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2016 at 8:58am
Cal, you forgot about Broadwell-E! (Computex)

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  Quote DebianDog Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2016 at 10:18am
Originally posted by Visibilities

Cal, you forgot about Broadwell-E! (Computex)



<sigh> I am sitting on my build for now.   I figured I waited THIS long another month or so won't kill me. It is certainly hard though. I have been wringing my hands and losing sleep over my build. Judging each component for "want" vs. "need" I mean there is a little fluff in there because... hey, It has got to color match
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  Quote Glimser Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2016 at 5:36pm
How soon after the cards release will Digital Storm upgrade their lines? I am a desktop replacement fanatic and was looking at the level 2 Banshee but since the 1080 has been reveled I kinda want to know how long I would have to wait. I know the cards release May 27 but how long do you think it will take for Digital Storm to get their hands on them after that? Thanks for your time!
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  Quote funeralpyre88 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2016 at 8:59pm
I wonder if there will be a video card within a year that can play witcher 3 in 1440p in max settings at 144 fps?
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  Quote Visibilities Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 May 2016 at 11:35pm
One card probably isn't enough. Even a 1080 probably won't be enough. 2 X's or 2 1080s are though.
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  Quote  Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 May 2016 at 6:07pm
A single Pascal Titan card will be...you just need to wait for HBM2 to ramp up.

The GTX 1080 will probably be reduced in priced when the 1080 Ti comes out, just like the 980 was. But that won't be until next year as HBM2 isn't supposed to be in volume production until this fall and there is always a delay between the Titan card and the reduced-spec X80 Ti.
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  Quote Goku1910 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2016 at 10:00am
Not just new Nvidia cards, new Intel Broadwell-E Processors too
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