relatively inexpensive build help

The configuration below is already over what I can really afford, but I am willing to make some sacrifices for future proofing and performance. I appreciate any and all feedback on what i could do to make this a great build.

Budget:
1200

Expectations:
To play WOW on ultra settings and be able to upgrade in the future

Usage:
Primarily playing WOW with occasional photoshop

Saved Ticket #:

Digital Storm Desktop 282057     
1

$1,598.00

System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67-M PRO (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Graphics Boost: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Thank for your input. I did look at the ODE lvl 1 and my concern would be the ability to not upgrade to SLI if needed in the future and the subpar GPU that is provided in that build. Maybe I am not correct in the capabilities of the GPU included, but my understanding is that the 2500k paired with a good GPU is far superior to a good CPU with a mediocre GPU. I did say that $1200 is my budget but I can probably make some sacrifices to come close the the build that I posted. I would rather spend a little more now if it means saving and even greater amount in the future.

I am new to learning about all the inner workings of a computer and what is essential and not as essential. My main intention is to get a good set up that can be upgraded to a great set up in the future without having to replace some of the major parts like CPU and motherboard. I understand from reading that it would be beneficial to get a motherboard that can support some of those upgrades like adding another GPU for SLI and doubling the RAM as my funds permit. Any advice on the best approach is appreciated thank you in advance.

Edited by tbsqrd - 23 Jun 2011 at 4:47pm

Well I'm not saying get ode 1, cause I like psu/cpu cooler in your build better.

but, the cpu is the brain of your pc, while gpu can be easily upgraded later, the cpu is not that easy for everybody, the 2600k will give you better performance now and think about 2 years from now too, it will distinguish itself further from the 2500k.

So in short just change the cpu in your config to the 2600k for better performance now and in teh future.

Also like to point out that currently there is no point in getting sli for wow, it does not utilize it correctly.

If you play other games then wow then tell us the native res of your monitor so that we can tell what kind of gpu power you need.

Since you're on a strict budget, and it looks like you mainly use your rig for gaming, I would stick with the 2500k.  It doesn't really out perform the 2600k at all in the gaming department, and I believe for the next couple years it will do fine.  The 2500k is many peoples preferred option for gaming anyway since performance is the same and you're looking at over a $100 difference.

2600k pulls away with video editing and programs of that nature.

If taking those benchmarks with no value towards anything, you should follow your same ideas, and stop linking benchmarks. He is clearly overbudget, based on your input you've been giving he needs to put an SSD, 2600k, and a better PSU. If benchmarks mean nothing in real world testing, then you should follow your same agenda.

His build that he posted is good, and the level 1 Ode is great for his budget. Based off that, your input is literally bad for DS from a business standpoint. You dont like any of DS' power supplies, you dont like most of their configs. Obviously you and I both know hardware fails all the time, the fact you keep downing some setups makes me wonder why Alex lets you run wild while criticizing DS builds.

Edited by ironmb - 24 Jun 2011 at 3:02am

Edited by ironmb - 24 Jun 2011 at 3:12am

LOL making up stuff is not gonna do anything then make you look worst then you have made yourself look already, where in this post did I say the ode is a terrible idea?   LOL I'm advising him to buy different parts but still buying from DS

I don't see anywhere on this post me recommending a $4000 pc either

Also there are times when I advise the ode 3, there are many things I like about the ide.



Edited by DST4ME - 24 Jun 2011 at 8:57am

DST i dont get what you dont understand, his budget is 1200$.. not 1700$, not 2000$, not 1500$. 1200$..

Edited by ironmb - 24 Jun 2011 at 3:32am

Congrats you just spent 20 mins typing exactly what i typed! Not once did i say get the DS certified PSU. If you're implying that i suggested the ODE level 1, that has a DS certified PSU, then once again you're reading between the lines.

What ever you believe is up to you.

I said ssd/hdd fail as any other hardware will fail.

Originally posted by DST4ME Anglis, the p67 does not have x16 x8 x8 to truely give, its advertised that way but you will endup with less bandwidth. the mobo will have to beg steal and borrow to comeup with anything even close to that, your performance will be more like x8 x8 x4 or x16 x8 x4. for this reason you don't see any of recommend p67 for tri sli/cf. x79 will have much better performance in tri sli then p67 in tri sli.

Edited by ironmb - 24 Jun 2011 at 5:56am

Can't read a thread on here anymore without Iron turning things personal. It's getting old. You guys need to settle the issues before it overtakes every thread.





Edited by Muddy - 24 Jun 2011 at 7:26am

I'll put it to you readers like this:

listen to what me/dragoon/justin/and most of the other members here say, and later you will thank yourself you did.

Listen to Ironmb, and you gonna wish you had listen to me/dragoon/justin/and most of the other members.

literally one side is giving you good folks the facts, and the other side is giving you guys the very mis-info/opinions we spend our time clearing up for you guys form the net.

Edited by DST4ME - 24 Jun 2011 at 8:01am

Originally posted by DST4ME I'll put it to you readers like this: listen to what me/dragoon/justin/and most of the other members here say, and later you will thank yourself you did. Listen to Ironmb, and you gonna wish you had listen to me/dragoon/justin/and most of the other members. literally one side is giving you good folks the facts, and the other side is giving you guys the very mis-info/opinions we spend our time clearing up for you guys form the net.

I said my peace.

your entire post above is full of mis-info the readers see it and that is all I care about.

Alex knows and members know many of the stuff I say, they read that lot of knowledgeable members say also, many others advise 2600K, lot of knowledgeable members will advise haf, lot of knowledgeable members will recommend a70 over h70, lot of knowledgeable members will advise intel 320 series not just any intel for its reliability, lot of knowledgeable members will recommend 1TB bc because of its speeds, lot of knowledgeable members recommend IPS panels.

Why because they are the best bang for the buck when it comes to performance vs price, so its not just DST that is recommending those parts.

DS offers variety of parts and they keep chaning their parts based on price and performance, so just because they offer a part, it does not mean that part is top of the line, they offer all kinds of parts so that people have choices and can work budgets, this is why you see DS psu and corsair psu, you see DS ram and you see corsair ram, you see many different kinds of coolers, different mobos, just because DS offers killer 2100 card it does not mean that this card is the greatest thing in teh world, DS used to offer vertex ssds, that didn't mean they were great ssds, DS offers variety of stuff.

You recommend your opinions to readers and I will give them the facts and they can decide for themselves what they want to do, stop worrying about what I recommend and the facts most of us point out.

Since you recommend DS certified psu, I'm sure you are not just pulling it out of thin air that you like it, there are logical reasons for you recommending people spend their good money on it:

Originally posted by ironmb I say DS PSU is fine, you say its not worth it because corsair offers a long warranty.

there you go editing again, warranty is not the only reason I said corsair is better, I said reliability, performance, warranty.

Did you go with DS psu in your build?


Also I didn't say I think DS psu is bad, I said for $50 bucks its better to go with brand name psu that has a long track record/better performance/reliability, I also can't recommend a psu to people that I don't know who the maker is.


so lets just start with the basics, who makes the DS certified psu that you know is good and recommend? I mean if one does not even know who makes the psu then their recommendation is based on, well I dont know what, you don't know who makes it but you know its good? so do grace us with teh answer, who makes the DS certified psu?

Nobody can take anybody's recommendation seriously if you don't know the first thing about it, which is, who makes the psu?



Edited by DST4ME - 24 Jun 2011 at 9:37am

@zangetsu if you read around about ssd/2600k/sli/gpu and etc you will see many others recommend it.

You only see me post here because other knowledgeable members like dragoon don't want to repeat why I say.

just check his posts alone and you will see he says the same things as me so do many others.

Originally posted by Dragoonseal Stick with the 320 series. Slower sequential (large file) speed than the 510 series, but faster small file speeds and better price point.

Originally posted by Dragoonseal the A70 or Noctua air coolers will still cool better and run quieter. Also in the case of the A70 it will be a cheaper option than Asetek with extra fans.

Originally posted by Dragoonseal A standard 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black HDD is faster than the 300GB VelociRaptor. Don't fall for the marketing, VRs are old tech and are slower than many modern larger sized and much cheaper HDDs, they are not worth the money whatsoever

I can pull these up all day adn from other members also so its not just me.

Also he has edited lot of his post so you no longer see the original personal attacks that he was doing, you are now just left with my responses, if you read up you will see eariler before he edited them muddy making a comment about iron making it personal:

Originally posted by Muddy Can't read a thread on here anymore without Iron turning things personal. It's getting old. You guys need to settle the issues before it overtakes every thread.

So with all do respect, I'm only take personal jabs so many-times, I have ignored lot of what he say other times in other forums also.

Edited by DST4ME - 24 Jun 2011 at 9:52am

Dragoon has 3 x 80GB in raid, so he is working with 240GB of space and in raid speeds are also much faster, Its not the same thing as a single 80GB don't you agree.

again, I just edited my last post about my tone of voice toward him, please go back and read it again so maybe that will clear up where I'm coming from.

Me and iron are not saying the same thing at all, with the exception of advising the op to get teh 2600k.


People that work for DS have their position posted under their avatar or admin or mod, and their star colors are different.

Also me justin, dragoon, some others, most times offer teh facts, we try not to offer our opinion, and when we do , we add a "IMO" to it to clarify that is an opinion, the net is full of false opinions and that is what we spend our time clearing up here. If justin was here he would tell you that himself and Dragoon will tell you the same thing himself.

Damn I must have edit this 8 times for typos.

Edited by DST4ME - 24 Jun 2011 at 10:07am

As I said he has edited his post so you don't see all the stuff he wrote.

What I said was what you quoted, when the difference of two cpus is that close, you need to take other things into account, but when the difference is huge then even a grain of salt is not gonna make that big of a difference.

For gaming just about everybody is gonna tell you to get the 2600K justin, dragoon, me, I stand by my recommendations.

lets talk in 2 years and lets see which cpu is doing the best, the 990x, the 2500k or the 2600k, my money is on 2600K, there is not other way for me to prove what I'm saying other then waiting for 2 years so I can show the difference time/higher requierments makes.

what it came down to is that he was making his recommendations and I was making mine then few post into it, he started talking to me and complaining about my recommendations, and then he made it personal.

I ignored his first post, but he continued.

the op is asking me questions and I give him info and stuff to talk about, I was not even talking to iron, and then he made the first move, and as I said, he does this all the time, its not just here, just ask dragoon.

Edited by DST4ME - 24 Jun 2011 at 10:25am