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    Posted: 05 Jun 2016 at 6:10pm
Hey guys, so now that the 1080 launched and i know my old rig wont handle it without updating most components i'm curious into what price im looking into getting a new rig with 1 1080 atm, maybe go SLI later on but not a fan of sli anymore, who knows...

My Budget maybe around 2k

Expectations, run current games on ultra at 60 or more fps.

Usage hardcore gaming only. maybe try VR but thats somewhere in the future!

Special needs, it gets pretty hot in the summers here in Cali so i need a good case with good airflow to keep tempatures at an acceptable rang and overclocked as much as possible.

I got an SSD from my old SD rig that i could transfer over for more storage.


Edited by MaxFactor - 05 Jun 2016 at 8:36pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 2:57am
Here's a good place to start. ...

Config # 1429708.      Cost $ 2222

Can't paste right now so just plug the config into top Load Config

It is a little over your budget but has quality parts, like the HDD and power supply upgrade for reliability and warranty coverage.

I normally put in the k CPU for overclocking, but it's not necessary and gets you closer to your budget.

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  Quote SnowandSand Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 4:53am
bprat22 gave you a solid build and if you want to get closer to your budget you can prob drop the CPU cooler for the factory one and go with an H series motherboard since you aren't able to overclock the cpu. The will save you about $140'ish. 
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  Quote MaxFactor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 7:09am
Thanks for the build bprat like always first on my posts 😊 so as advice is there something I should wait for it when is a good time to upgrade? Also I'm going to most likely get the K version for overclocking just ask my fiance for a bigger budget lol hope it gets approved. On the other hand is it with selecting overclocking from DS in the build? I'm not experienced in overclocking.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 7:59am
My pleasure, and yeah, if you can, get the K chip and have DS put a moderate overclock on it.  Overclocking when done right, DS does it right,  is safe, no longevity issues, and while the performance increase isn't huge, overclocking does help with minimum fps, which most don't even consider,and smooths things out a bit. 

Today's systems do Turbo overclock across all the cores better than the previous, but I still like overclock.  Just seems natural with a gaming rig, like vanilla ice-cream on apple pie.   Not needed, but dang is it good.  Big%20Smile


 As far as waiting for the next best thing, I would just go for it, the gtx 1050 being a big step up and the new Broadwell chips, the 6800k for example on the X99 platform, not worth the extra money, imho, for most gamers.  The Z170 we put together will give you excellent gaming for quite some time. 


 


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  Quote CougarX6 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 9:55am
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like vanilla ice-cream on apple pie.   Not needed, but dang is it good.  Big%20Smile   



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  Quote Moritsuna Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 9:14pm
Hey just piping in, I did a bunch of research on X99 vs Z170 and I can tell you, as a pure gaming machine the Z170 has the edge with skylake, and future updates to that line. (kaby lake etc)
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 10:53pm
since you're on a budget do you mind telling what your need a 1080 for?  unless you have a ultra wide 2k monitor or more demanding then i'd advise you to skip it.  heck, with the 1070 you're essentially getting a Titan X for $600 cheaper. 

if you're gaming at 1080p (like most people) it just doesn't make sense to build a system around a GTX 1080 right now.  even a GTX 1070 is overkill.

in fact, as long as you have a capable pcie 2.0/3.0 system right now you're old rig can handle any of the new cards (they're backwards compatible).  if that is the case i'd suggest spending around $800+ on a fast (144Hz) 1440p/2k monitor and buying the GTX 1070 and just upgrade your old pc.  if your old pc isn't capable of pcie 2.0/3.0, then you'll need to at least upgrade the motherboard, which is possible on Sandy Bridge procs or newer.  if you have a SB proc look into buying a Z77 mobo (ASRock has a good one still on the market in the Extreme 4). 


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  Quote MaxFactor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 7:57pm
I Currently got a Acer Predator XB1 2560x1440 and it runs 144 Hz. so i got the monitor just not the system to run that resolution on nice settings..and yes a 1080 might be overkill and in 2 years it wont be anymore, so there is the choice..upgrade now or later...but at some point i'll have to upgrade and from what ive been told from DS most if not all of my components would bottleneck a 1080 or even 1070 or not be compatible at all.
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 1:23am
Originally posted by MaxFactor

I Currently got a Acer Predator XB1 2560x1440 and it runs 144 Hz. so i got the monitor just not the system to run that resolution on nice settings..and yes a 1080 might be overkill and in 2 years it wont be anymore, so there is the choice..upgrade now or later...but at some point i'll have to upgrade and from what ive been told from DS most if not all of my components would bottleneck a 1080 or even 1070 or not be compatible at all.
well, knowing what you're trying to drive is a good place to start with a system build.  that the XB271HU i guess?  nice monitor.  i'm looking at it as well.  anyway, since you did mention you're on a pretty tight budget and trying to drive this monitor well that's why i asked and made my suggestions.  for people with virtually unlimited budgets i'd say just buy the best of what's available if money's no barrier.  a 980ti is recommended to drive monitors like yours.  to put that into perspective, the GTX 1070 @$500 (currently, but with an msrp of $400) is more powerful for $250 less.  it is in fact about equal to a single Titan X, which is $500 less at the moment.   and a Titan X is a little better than the 980ti. 

for people on tight budgets, i recommend getting what you need in the here and now and worry about 2 years from now...2 years from now.  you might even consider looking for a price reduced 980ti/Titan X if you can get it significantly cheaper than a 1070 (if not, get the new shiny).   for the money you save you can upgrade your memory, storage, router (if online gaming is your thing), etc.  
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 2:13am
hard to say if your old hardware will be a serious bottleneck to this card or not (you haven't listed your pc specs).  what i do think is that there is a lot of misinformation and panic out there about these cards supposedly being bottlenecked by every cpu that isn't of this current or last generation and that's a lot of bunk.  now, you start putting 3 or these bad boyz in sli and you'll have a definite bottlenecking with every cpu currently available.  Jay of Jayz2cents bottlenecked 3xTitan X's on a 5860X.  i'm running 2x980ti's in an [email protected] and I'm nowhere near a cpu bottleneck in any game.  do you mean to tell me that a single 1080 is going to be more of a bottleneck than 2x980ti's?  no way, no how.  the lower the resolution the more the cpu comes into play, so perhaps at 1080p with a really old (say older than Sandy Bridge) proc it can.   but hey, it's good for sales right?
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