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Post Date: 2009-08-05
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    Posted: 05 Aug 2009 at 4:29pm

Greetings everyone! I just started to do some research lately and I would love to get myself a new rig on here. I was hoping to throw some ideas to see what the public thinks.

RIght now my budget is $2,000-$2,500 MAX (just for the tower and the pretty insides.) I want to get something that is pretty buff but not over the top.  One of the biggest toss ups I have is in regards to the processor. I'm very torn between the i7 950 3.06ghz and the i7 extreme 965 3.2ghz. I'm not sure if the 1.4ghz is worth the $200 price jump. Also, I am split between overclocking as well only because as much as the water cooler is nice, I may be overstepping my price range with it. I do however want a system that remains cool and quiet. Again, overclocking is purly optional as i can go either way.
 
I will be getting myself a new LCD shortly that is about 22" 1680x1480 or something of that nature. However, I will also be connecting this to my big boy 46" samsung 650 model on occasion (when the wife isnt watching it hehe) So I was thinking the geforce 295 would be ideal for me. However going the duel route maybe overkill? Not sure. Again 80% of my gaming will be on the smaller LCD anyways. 
 
The ram i will get is 6gigz so thats a no brainer right there.
 
The HDD i would love to get is the newer SSD 120g. But i may hold off on that till it comes down in price.
 
Fans vs Water? I would love to do water cool but again, may be out of my price range.
 
I just started to think about getting a new rig recently so I'm still looking around to see what would be best for me. (BTW I play FPS, RTSRPGz)
 
I appreciate any input at any level. Thanks in advance!
 
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The difference between the 950 and 9650 is only 0.14 GHz, not 1.4GHz. You can overclock on air as well, the results just won't as good.

Television sets only have a resolution of 1920 x 1080 or lower. So having two GTX 295 isn't necessary. The GTX 295 card in itself is SLI so a single one should be able to handle 1920 x 1080.
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instead of 295, 2 x 275 gives better performance and cost less.

if you want to game on the 46" on high settings you will need 2 x 275, if you want to game at 1600 x 1200, you will need 1 x 275.

now if I config a system for you with 2 x 275 and 128GB SSD you will be around $2600.

prices of SSDs are high right now, I suggest going with a 500GB then upgrading to a SSD end of this year or early next year.

Edited by DST4ME - 05 Aug 2009 at 5:05pm

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Posts: 246 		  Quote Muz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Aug 2009 at 6:09pm
outstanding. Thanks for the input! I may get the double 275's but we shall see. :)
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Aug 2009 at 7:36pm
here is a dual 275 system:

Here you go Ticket# 317913 --- Price: $2571 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2371

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-U12P High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

of course you can always get that system with just one 275 and add a second later if you think you need it

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if your going air id suggest the prolimatech cooler

no fan with a mild oc

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/akg/Air_Cooling/prolima/i7_342.jpg

this is with dual fans on the cooler

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/akg/Air_Cooling/prolima/i7_dual.jpg



Edited by <8) slunK parade - 05 Aug 2009 at 8:46pm
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he is on a budget, its gonna cost him more to special order a cooler and the Noctua NH-U12P IMO will do as good of job.

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Posts: 246 		  Quote Muz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Aug 2009 at 11:22pm
Wow thanks a lot!! I can't believe how much of an overclock that 920 can go!  That is sensational and the price is right on. Thanks so much! I will have to make sure i can break the bank right now with this exact set up.  :)
 
One question.. This really isn't important but that new network card, the killer xeno pro that is supoose to rduce latency. Does that really work? Say if i connect to a server and my average ping is around 60. How much  will that help reduce? Again, just to ask to ask.!
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Short answer is that its a waste of your money, you connection and server speed are more of a factor then the xeno.

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Posts: 798 		  Quote <8) slunK parade Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2009 at 12:17am
if youve got a horrible connection it might help a tiny bit
for the most part you could use a regular network card and get similar results
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Alrightys. My connection is fine to me but was just curious. Thanks for the insight.
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Honestly they took the coolest feature of the Killer M1 out of the Xeno Pro: The hardware firewall.
It's a cute toy and sorta interesting for a heavy downloader, someone superparanoid or those that REALLY like voice chat not interfering in their benchmark scores. Normal people, not that useful.
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