Best computer for FilmmakingPost Date: 2010-12-22 |
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Topic: Best computer for Filmmaking Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 5:23pm |
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I need the fastest possible computer. I want it all boosted with speed & power.
I'm not sure when I will buy this, but I probably will, knowing I need the speed and power of a system like this to seamlessly make movies. Right now, I've got this setup: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=471833 Edited by StructuredAmazingArt - 22 Dec 2010 at 5:24pm |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 5:26pm | |
whats your budget?
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 5:28pm | |
No budget as long as it's the fastest & as long as it's from DigitalStorm.
Lol it may seem I'm trolling, but I'm not. I've heard GREAT reviews about DS and would like to have the fastest Workstation PC from them. Edited by StructuredAmazingArt - 22 Dec 2010 at 5:31pm |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 5:49pm | |
If your really legit i would contact alex because i don't know much about workstation builds and he probably would know more than i do. His email is: [email protected]
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 5:56pm | |
did you go thru the config page and just pick all the highest options possible? cause looking at your build something just dont' make no sense, Of course I could be missing something, which is why I'm asking. For example the HDD choice and setup, is not making sense to me.
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:07pm | |
Well yeah, I basically picked all the highest settings. I'm not really good at building PC's myself, so I am thankful for a service such as this [DigitalStorm].
What is wrong with my setup? |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:28pm | |
there a few things that wouldn't make sense, for example why 4 cards in raid, and why vr, why not faster drives?
few things like that. now most of us know nothing of how to make films, so why don't you tell use what things you need for it how much room do you want/need which is more important to you, cpu power or gpu power or both. do you need that tesla? so want it all Liquid cooled? DS has a new system out, maybe you want to look into that, its called subzero tec chill. so give us a bit of info on what things you need for your film making stuff. also I'm not sure what kind of film making, 3d? |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:34pm | |
Well i almost guerentee you will never need more than 12gb of ram so you can take it down to that.
Second the killer card is a complete waste. There is no proof it works and t is in no way worth $200. Don't upgrade to the Zalman fans they are extremely noisy. I wouldn't get screens speakers keyboard or mouse from DS because there is much better selection on amazon.com or newegg.com plus they charge extra shipping for them. I guess thats the best semi rediculus workstation build. You could look into the sub zero build if you wanted but i don't think that can use workstation chips. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:48pm | |
The WB should fit on a sever chip if I'm not mistaken.
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:52pm | |
WB?
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:58pm | |
The water block that goes on the chip.
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 7:08pm | |
oh yea water block. yea but they don't offer the workstation gpu yet. maybe its somethng to come in the future from ds?
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 7:29pm | |
Not sure I have never looked into quadro's WB-s.
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WardTheSteak
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 7:34pm | |
First off, I'm not a film maker so there are some things I wouldn't be too sure on. One, that is RAM utilization. Just in case the RAM utilization is outrageous I put it in my build, but I really don't see you going over 24gb utilization, hell not even 12gb. However, I'm not a film maker so maybe someone can chime in here.
Here is my recommendation. I say you go with this case setup, but listen carefully here. See if Digital Storm can give you the Dual CPU setup on the SR-2 motherboard with the new SUB 0 cooling. Because, I do believe film making is highly cpu based, so this workstation kind of build along with the offerings in cooling and space the Syndicate can give you is very nice. You then, might want to ask for different GPU's I would ask for the Quadro fx 5800 4GB, Idk how this card does against 3 580's in the video editing world. Anyone wanna help with this? Since, you can't pick the work station gpu for the Syndicate build I have 3x GTX 580's, but you can request Digital Storm to put in the other card if it will be a better fit for you. One other thing, as far as storage you want a good SSD, but intel doesn't seem to offer a high capacity storage atm, but they are coming out with higher and faster drives in 2011, and I'm not sure how high quality the sandforce SSD's are maybe Dragoon could help with that. Also, I know it's not as productive to put SSD's in a raid format, but with the space you will be using it would seem that throwing them in a RAID 0 config might be the only option right now to make up for lack of bigger SSD's. All in all it looks like your budget is really high, let me know what you think. Load this ticket and check it out: 471880 |
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 9:54pm | |
Hey, thanks for all the replies!
Anyways, Yeah, filmmaking/editing workstations can take up so much RAM. I have a 8GB RAM computer, and adobe premiere/after effects [when rendering] takes up the whole of the RAM. so 24 GB ram would be great. What i was wondering if they could put dual i7's hexa-core 3.33ghz with hyper threading on to make it [i believe a 24 core?] but anyways, with a very fast processor, I want a CUDA nabled GPU [like quadro 5800 with 4GB] What' the difference between 1 GPU vs 3x-4x SLI GPUs? could the quadro's even work with each other [like in SLI] or is that just not possible? lol I'm actually staying away from SSD's right now because of its new technology and lack of space. I've heard many problems with it such as slow random writes/etc... that's why I'd like a 10K for OS and programs. But yeah. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 9:58pm | |
ok 24GB of ram you need and should get.
you can put hexa core, 6 cores, 2 of them is 12 real cores, with HT your pc will think it has 24 cores. not sure if sli is supported with the software you use, and I'm not sure quadro does sli. as for ssds, you got some bad info, all ssds are not the same and intel is king, performance is great. but if you still want HDD NP, let me know. |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:32pm | |
sli isn't supported with rendering and cuda :( and doubt quadro does it either.
but he is right for his use a ssd wouldn't help since he needs alot of space and thats just something a ssd can't do. |
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:42pm | |
I'm pretty sure quadro is CUDA enabled: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/dso-ws/#3
so yeah I like HDD and i would realllyy love the 6-core i7 duality. but it seems that i can't dual-i7 for options in the configuration page..? which would be better actually? a dual-hexa core xeon? or dual-hexa core i7? can hyperthreading be enabled for both of these? Edited by StructuredAmazingArt - 22 Dec 2010 at 11:46pm |
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WardTheSteak
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:45pm | |
It doesn't matter that it isn't the option. Save a ticket, and shoot them an e-mail with your specific details that you want to change out. Also, your information on SSD's are bad, they are extremely fast. Intel in a few months is coming out with some 600gb capacity SSD's I would recommend one of these for your main I'm doing this right now kind of thing, and store most of the other parts on the HDD's.
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:47pm | |
yea it is cuda enabled i was saying you can't use sli with cuda.
don't think you can dual i7's hooked up together. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:48pm | |
here is a base dual cpu to get you started, add what you like in there:
Ticket Number: 471978 I left the HDD choice alone so you can do what you like. keep in mind in raid with 4 cards, chances of losing data/hdd is higher Edited by DST4ME - 22 Dec 2010 at 11:49pm |
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:48pm | |
which would be better actually? a dual-hexa core xeon? or dual-hexa core i7?
can hyperthreading be enabled for both of these? - && really? SSD's became better? so theyre better than HDD's in everyway possible [cept for size that is... but in time, the capacity will become more spacious. how does an SSD [like the 600GB one you just mentioned to me that is coming out in a few months] compare to a 10K RPM HDD?? |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:50pm | |
SSDs can't be compared to HDDs, cause its not fair to HDDs, its like comparing you walking to a car driving.
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:52pm | |
xeon cpu is better i think.
yes both have HT |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:53pm | |
I posted a dual cpu 6 core build for you couple of posts ago, don't miss it
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:55pm | |
oh, so if xeon is better, then i should just go for that, especially since it has HT enabled as well. sweet. lol I thought only the i7's had them nifty HT lol
so maybe i should wait a while til i get a fully loaded SSD system with HDDs as just backup material. are you sure about the SSDs? im a bit skeptical with SSDs since ive heard mixed reviews on them |
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 11:57pm | |
it was basically my: 471833 but without much harddrive capacity etc :P |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:00am | |
its pretty much the same chip really with a higher qpi, that can do multi-cpu application.
I'm sure about ssds. but all ssds are not the same, I'm talking about the intel ssd. for things like ssd or gpu, you don't have to wait, you can upgrade those real easy. did you see the dual cpu build I posted for you? Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2010 at 12:14am |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:00am | |
the xeon is a server and workstation chip while the i7 is a desktop chip.
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StructuredAmazingArt
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:01am | |
lol so i probably should go with the xeon since it is obviously much more powerful [considering it being a server/workstation chip] |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:03am | |
well it has the 24GB of ram and I took out all the nonsense that config had. upgraded fans, lamptron, side fans, Noise Reduction, gpu boost, ram boost,killer 2100, all have to go, and are pretty much pointless. Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2010 at 12:14am |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:03am | |
yea decided to do a lil research and post that up just to backup what i said earlier.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:04am | |
Guys xeon chips are not more powerful per say, they can do multi-cpu application
have a look here Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2010 at 12:13am |
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maxyme
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:07am | |
but if you think about it they are. since you can put two side by side. but they are server chips so there must be something about them thats better. i know they have more cores
edit: lol i love how i post everything in that article without reading it. Edited by maxyme - 23 Dec 2010 at 12:09am |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 12:08am | |
read here the chips are pretty much the same, the xeon can do multi-cpu application, and that would be the reason to go with it.
Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2010 at 12:12am |
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