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HellAngel
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Topic: New Build Posted: 08 Oct 2015 at 4:24pm |
Hi Everyone,
It has been a while since I have ordered a PC and I have read many articles online. Below is a spec on a Slate. For you more experience gamers out their is this a solid build? Not sure about the mobo or PSU. Also is their a big difference between an Apollo and a Slate with similar specs. I am using a 1080p now but will go to a 1440p next year. Your thoughts. Thanks |
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jackbutler68
Groupie Joined: 08 Sep 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 202 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2015 at 5:02pm |
I just got a similar system except the skylake wasn't an option when I ordered so I got the 5820k cpu. You can see my review in this section "My New Slade Review Update 2." I am very happy with it.
If you are just doing a single card you should be fine although I have heard from others that there might be some airflow issues with the case with multiple cards. Edited by jackbutler68 - 08 Oct 2015 at 5:02pm |
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My DS Slade..
Corsair Obsidian 550D Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3GHz GIGABYTE GAX99SLI 32GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX SSD 1TB Samsung 850 EVO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (ASUS Strix Edition) |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 2:03am |
Hi HellAngel....Welcome to the forums.
That's a real nice build. Both the Slade 550d and Apollo 760t are good cases and and for your setup either will work great. Your personal preference with aesthetics is the choice. The Apollo does give you the side window for lighting and seeing the internals and the Slade is closed up and a cleaner, quieter and less light pollution for those that don't want it. Apollo has better airflow ,however, your setup with the 240mm rad for cpu does increase the airflow in Slade. FYI... The Slade 550d is quiet when both the top and side acoustic panels remain on. With your build, the 240mm cpu cooler radiator will mount under the top and require the top panel to remain off all the time for the fans to exit the heat. I personally would swap the psu you picked for the other EVGA 750w SuperNova. It's a better supply with double the warranty for another $40 or so. Hope this helps and stay in touch. |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 2:09am |
Also, if you want the option to go sli, 2x 980ti, up the psu to the 850watt. For 1440p you probably won't need it, but thought I'd mention it.
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 7:32am |
Hi HellAngel,
A couple of things to consider but not necessarily required. 1. Go for the Samsung 850 256Gb Pro SSD over the 850 250Gb EVO, if it is in your budget. For $59 you get a ten year warranty instead of five years on the EVO. 2. If you bought the Slade for quiet you might consider the H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition) This cooler mounts on the back exhaust fan and you don't have to remove the top noise dampener. 3. If you ever think you might add a second 980 Ti then the Strix edition is not a good choice for the Slade. The Strix dumps a lot of heat into the case. You will have to remove the sound barriers to help with the cooling. The Slade design may be the best available for someone who wants a quiet system but the design sacrifices thermal performance. It is not the best choice for a super duper performance machine due to its cooling setup. It can be made to work but everything you do increases noise or thermals. In my opinion the Strix GPU is not a good choice for the Slade. Frank H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition) Edited by FrankW - 10 Oct 2015 at 8:27am |
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HellAngel
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 8:12am |
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Zoofro
Newbie Joined: 21 Sep 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 47 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 8:31am |
Your build is almost identical to my PC I just got in this past Wednesday. One thing as bprat22 already mentioned that if you do plan on going SLI with another 980Ti in the future to increase your Power Supply. I got the 750 Watt as well but then soon realized the power consumption of 980Ti in SLI won't work with a 750 Watt. I also just got a 980Ti instead of the Strix edition...seem to have a lot less heating issues than other users are reporting. Something to consider if cooling is a concern of yours.
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Apollo
Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING 16GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX 512GB Samsung 850 PRO 2TB Western Digital NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti |
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jackbutler68
Groupie Joined: 08 Sep 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 202 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 8:39am |
So far I havent had any heating issues but I only have 1 980ti strix edition in my case so I can't comment on have multiple cards. As I have pointed out before I like the look of the case and the cost was less than a high airflow case like the velox. I was in no way buying it because it was a quiet case. With that said I think it can be adapted for higher airflow if needed (sacrificing the quiet aspect of the case) but I am not sure at that point if it would be any louder than the other higher airflow cases.
Edited by jackbutler68 - 09 Oct 2015 at 8:40am |
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My DS Slade..
Corsair Obsidian 550D Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3GHz GIGABYTE GAX99SLI 32GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX SSD 1TB Samsung 850 EVO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (ASUS Strix Edition) |
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HellAngel
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 9:07am |
Thanks Everyone for the welcome and the info provided. Your insights provide the knowledge I need to not make a mistake.
Seeing that the Slate would cause some issue with the thermals I am thinking about the Apollo instead. Question, If I do go SLI in the future should I go with the straight 980Ti or the Strix edition? Also is the mother board I selected adequate? Thanks |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 9:30am |
The Strix, whether the 980, 980ti, etc are better cards than reference single fan cards as far as mobo, components, oc'ing, power circuitry, etc.
But, for an sli setup with air cooling and not under water, I would opt for the reference cards unless your case has excellent air flow. Problem is, the custom fan setups like Strix with its multi fan setup, dump most of the heat into the case and not out the back as does reference. For a single card, no problem. For sli, the top card usually takes the hit as heat builds between them. A 10C + difference between cards isn't unusual. The Slade does have the option to remove the side panel and mount two fans to blow fresh air directly onto the cards/mobo area. The Apollo doesn't unless you pick the option to drill side blow holes into the plastic side. I'm not sure how the stock Apollo would handle the sli Strix even with its better airflow over the Slade. I personally would pick a case with side fan option like Slade, Velox, etc if sli Strix is a possibility. Otherwsie I'd go reference cards. Another member, Dax, used the Air 540 case with front 140mm fans with triple 980ti Strix if memory serves and he's good to go. The top card still heats up more but still reasonable. The Air 540 case has the front fans real close to the mobo and cards which helps a lot. No side fans but the case design is very good for airflow. Hope this helps. Tough decisions. Mobo is very good. Edited by bprat22 - 09 Oct 2015 at 9:30am |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2015 at 4:13pm |
unless you're really picky about noise, i'd steer clear of the Slade case. the Apollo is perfectly capable of moving the heat, it comes with a lot of fans already, and it's just a good "all around" case. i think the Slade is awesome for work station builds, but there are better options for gamers.
don't be alarmed at those Strix ti's hitting low 80's C under load (ie. while gaming). it's normal. those cards are built to accept high oc'ing and the cooler knows when to kick those fans on. you can also manually increase the fan speed to 100% if you're not comfortable with the temps. i prefer the higher quality components on custom cards over reference designs. you tend to avoid issues like annoying coil whine for example with them. also, they oc far better. watch this vid for more testing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixo1MRvMxxU Edited by db188 - 09 Oct 2015 at 4:15pm |
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I7-6700K Gigabyte G1 Z170X Gaming GT 16GB Corsair Dominator 3000MHz Corsair Hx1000i 1000W Samsung M.2 980 Pro 2TB;Samsung 850 EVO 1TB MSI RTX 3080 Ventus OC 10G LHR Gigabyte M28U 4K |
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HellAngel
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2015 at 11:10pm |
Hi Everyone,
If I decide not to go SLI in the future will the Eclipse make sense if I use the 980 Ti Hybrid edition to keep it cooler or should I pick an apollo or Slate? Not sure about how hot the Eclipse can get. Too many decisions. |
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jackbutler68
Groupie Joined: 08 Sep 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 202 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 2015 at 8:21am |
If you are not wanting to go sli I personally would not waste the extra money on the Hybrid card. I would get the Strix edition. It is a better card and factory overclocked. A single card will be fine in either the Slade or Apollo case. I am not sure about the Eclipse case.
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My DS Slade..
Corsair Obsidian 550D Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3GHz GIGABYTE GAX99SLI 32GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX SSD 1TB Samsung 850 EVO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (ASUS Strix Edition) |
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jackbutler68
Groupie Joined: 08 Sep 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 202 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 2015 at 8:32am |
Looking at the pics for the Eclipse case I don't think you can use the hybrid card. It doesn't look like there is any room for the radiator.
Edited by jackbutler68 - 11 Oct 2015 at 8:33am |
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My DS Slade..
Corsair Obsidian 550D Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3GHz GIGABYTE GAX99SLI 32GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX SSD 1TB Samsung 850 EVO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (ASUS Strix Edition) |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 2015 at 9:45am |
The Eclipse is a very small case 14"H x 4"W x 15"L. I consider this a specialist case. Anyone afraid to tear into a computer, removing parts to reach the GPU, should not consider this case. There is only room for a single, double wide GPU. No SLI here.
It does seem that the hybrid card would be a challenge and probably not fit. The GPU fits into a caddy and I don't see any way to route the tubing to a radiator. You could use a 980Ti reference card. I am not a fan of these super small cases but you might like the Eclipse. The Eclipse is build on the Silverstone Raven RVZ01 case if you what to look at some reviews or builds. Frank |
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HellAngel
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2015 at 9:57am |
Ok, after over thinking things I just order my first DS system the Apollo, specs below. The waiting is now the hard part. I decided to order now before the holiday rush begins. I notice from the forums the system is built in stages. Can someone explain what the stages # mean?
Thanks Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Apollo Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz Motherboard: ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING (Intel Z170 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series Power Supply: 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 850 PRO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (ASUS Strix Edition) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) |
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Snaike
Moderator Group Just a dude trying to keep the spam away Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9440 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2015 at 6:30pm |
I cheated, too ... and I stole this from bprat who stole it from Tidgxor
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HellAngel
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 6:25pm |
Well, I got my new Apollo and I have only one word: WOW!
First the box was BIG. This PC was bigger than my old PC, a DELL something. DS attention to details is outstanding. The wiring is a thing of beauty. The machine is fast and responsive. Graphics are out of this world. I am now traveling at Warp Speed. Thank You DS |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 12:34am |
Hi HellAngle,
Now you can see why some users are happy to recommend Digital Storm and its computers. You got a nice system that will serve you for years. Frank |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 2:38am |
Congrats.
If you can pull yourself away from it long enough , a couple of pics would be great. Enjoy. |
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oldlady RPGer
DS Veteran One of the cool kids Joined: 09 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1080 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 2:06am |
Pics please.
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Me sitting my ECMO in PICU. Now you know why I like LC. ;)
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