Recomendation on new Desktop

Hello Digital Storm,

Need your feedback on my new build.

Budget:
Not to exceed $1700 for the desktop. Resolution is 1920x1080

Expectations:
I would like to build a new gaming rig, but my concern is that I don't want to have an overkill system. It would appear that the two games I play are not as demanding as others out there.

Usage:
Mainly, flight sims, with some photoshop usage and the need for large storage (iTunes)

Game Specs:
DCS World:
OS: 64-bit Windows 10
DirectX11
CPU: Corei5
Ram: 8GB
Free hard disk space 30GB
Video: 2GB, DirectX11 - compatible

IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad:
OS: 64-bit Windows 10
CPU: Intel Core i5/i7 2.6 GHz+
RAM: 4GB+
Storage space: 10GB+
Video: 2GB VRAM or better

Special Needs:
I would like to have two monitors set up, same resolution, one for gaming, the other for basic computing. I have a need for an optical drive, would like to have a SSD, and a large HDD.

Saved Ticket #: Saved build, Vanquish #1489205

Specifications:
As I mentioned above, my concern is that although it would be nice to have a killer machine that I can brag about, it seems that my system requirements would benefit from your expertise.

Thanks for your help,

Woody

Edited by Woody - 20 Sep 2016 at 7:35am

Thank you DST4ME,

I knew you guys would have some solid feedback.

Thank you for the two suggestions... and for some reason, I favor the i7


Again, you guys and the community are great.. Quick feedback. Thanks!

Woody


Edited by Woody - 20 Sep 2016 at 2:57pm

This is a little off topic Woody, but since you're into flight sims, I recommend the TrackIR5(head tracking device). It can be very helpful with looking from left to right in the cockpit. Here's a video by Dslyecxi covering the TrackIR5(He plays primarily Arma and a little DCS).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wXx3vMy_AQ

Hope that helps.

Edited by Batman34 - 20 Sep 2016 at 2:32pm

Originally posted by Woody DST4ME, Liking the first build: Ticket Number: 1492630

Thats a good one tho I would like a better cpu cooler but to get the build I really want to recommend it would be around $2000. let me know if you are interested.

also I don't know why this version is cheaper but the cpu cooler on this one is little better as far as cooling but I'm not sure how long it will last, if you are cool with chaning the vortex cooler (asetek) yourself then I would go with this one:

Ticket Number: 1492767


but as I mentioned before if you can go to $2000 we can go with better cooling for better oc and reliability but I know budget dictates been there before myself, so if budget is not there then the one you like and the one I just posted are great also.

Me personally, I'm purchasing the Apollo in November. My build is around $2300(includes Hydrolux Lite). There are definitely a lot more cooling options. However, I'm pretty sure that DST is not the biggest fan of aio(closed liquid cooling). He does like Noctua and Hyrdolux LC(Light or Pro). We had a discussion not too long ago about cooling options if you are interested.

http://www.digitalstorm.com/forums/vcore-levels-overclock-tidf28710/

DST, if I misspoke for you just let me know.

Edited by Batman34 - 20 Sep 2016 at 5:13pm

Well they don't cover the noctua for shipping anymore so I can't recommend it, I'm stuck with the aio for budget builds.

Ok so Yes we would go for apollo but not the case itself to save more money:



Click Image To Go To Configuration Page


When it comes to cooling as mentioned I don't like the aio but we are limit in budget so for the next best option is the h115i, it has more positive reviews than the other aio (all in one) coolers below it.

Keep in mind what I said about mcafee and warranty before.

What part of the quote was not clear, I can explain better if you let me know what was confusing.

noctua air cooler is a great air cooler and can easily do 4.4GHz on the 6700k, but because ups and fedex can't do their job right, DS says their noctua pc were delivered damaged so they stopped covering it, you can still get it but they won't cover shipping damage to it or from it. And I don't feel comfortable recommending a part that DS won't cover if there is shipping damage.

To answer your question about vanquish vs apollo:

My build is an apollo build, all I did was change the case form apollo to cordium, you don't need a fulltower case for your system, so the midtower cordium is a great case with great airflow.

so in otherwords an apollo case vs has no performance gain but will cost more because of the apollo case.

both of those (my config in cordium or apollo case) vs vanquish comes down to this:

since the cooing my config is better the oc should be better, now nothing is set in stone and each cpu is different, we could endup with 4.4GHz with the vortex cooler on vanquish or h115i on my config, the difference will be that if I had to choose between the two and no other options, its the h115i every time, not only the cooling is better but the main reason is readability is much better with corsair and noise should also be lower with corsair.

keep in mind in my config we have better cooler, we know our mobo, psu also so we know what we are getting.

I hope that answers your questions but if you have more please ask

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Sep 2016 at 6:00pm

Thank you,

I appreciate the feedback.

I can look at the configuration this evening.

To DST4ME,

I re-read your post and it all makes sense now.


Now I just need to digest it all.

Woody

Originally posted by Woody DST4ME, I re-read your post and it all makes sense now. Now I just need to digest it all. Woody

No problem if you have anymore questions then let me know.

Have a look around yourself and don't just take mine/other people's word for stuff, see the facts for yourself.

Edited by DST4ME - 21 Sep 2016 at 10:17am

Keep in mind in the cordium I tried to save money where ever possible while a 750w would be a better choice the 600w can also do the job, there just will be less head room.

150w for cpu oc, but probably 130w, but lets go with 150w. About 160w from 1070. And the rest will not mount to much. So the 600w can do just fine.

Flight sims with a gtx 1060 and 1080p monitor will play just fine.    I played most of DCS titles with an older gtx 570 and had zero issues at high settings and the gtx 1060 is much stronger.

I would get the other EVGA 750watt psu for an additional $34.  The B1 is a bronze rated and semi modular connectors.  The other, either a G1 or G2 is gold rated, fully modular connectors for easier swapping and double the warranty.

Good luck.

Thanks for the updated config, DST4ME:

I am sure this happens often, buyers come to you and say $1700 max for the system and now I am 25% over the original budget.

Can we briefly talk about liquid cooling (mainly the difference between the Corsair H115 and the Hyrdo Lux)

Are both all in ones? Failure rates and the damage it can cause.

Here is a new config: Digital Storm Coridium (Config # 1493711)

If I was to say to you, going back to the original post, but now lets look at $2100 as ultimate max price. Can you build that.

Honestly, I don't think I need more than the GTX 1060 6GB, but amp up in other places. I like the 6700k, I like the mb, the psu.

So, is it important if I know what my 16GB ram manufacture is?
I like the storage we have.

I think we are narrowing it down for me, so I am indebted to you for your time and energy spent on this.

Can you run me one more with the feeback above?

Woody

Thank you DST4ME


If your boss doesn't know already, I'll say it: "You the Man!"

Originally posted by DST4ME No disrespect but I would take my apollo build any day over your config for his use, its only $90 more but it more powerful and I know all the parts in it. To each his own

I was thinking more down the line of the third hard drive being for the music. You could take out the third hard drive and save about $200 compared to your config, but if money isn't an issue then you might as well get the most powerful PC for the buck.

I have to admit though that you got me hooked on SSD storage, and I'm already looking at adding an additional 850 EVO. Once you have SSD you don't wanna go back as everything loads so much faster.





Fixed broken quote.

Edited by Snaike - 30 Sep 2016 at 10:47am