Temperature's on your systems...Post Date: 2016-10-14 |
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Xenecus
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Topic: Temperature's on your systems... Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 11:37am |
I'm trying to understand these water cooling solutions....
What temperatures are you guys getting with your systems? My experience so far: Room Temperature (~70 max) Idle Temps <30c for both GPU and CPU (usually 28c) Under Load is where I see the temps a bit high, when compared to other water cooled systems. For example during heavy gaming sessions or 3DMark, if it was a bell curve i'd say something like 55-58c (60% of the time) with spikes on 62c and 45c on the low end.... this is of course running it on heavy rendering games such as Witcher 3, Deus Ex and synthetic such as 3DMark. My CPU even at extreme benchmarks never goes above 75c and that's core 4, rest of the cores are 60c, for some odd reason Core #4 is a big offender and ~15c gap with the others. My CPU for these tests is on a mild OC 4.2GHz @ 1.30V and GPU's are running +160 / +200 with 120% power limit. What are you guys seeing? |
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hoserator
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 2:50pm |
Those are very nice temps. Have a 5960X normal at 43C, hours gaming 52C; 980s run 32-35C on lc. Don't do benchmarks.
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Xenecus
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 2:58pm |
Ok, so your GPU's are running mid 30's on full load??
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hoserator
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 5:02pm |
No, low 40s (42-44C) the highest 46C. Will be changing the gpus to what you have when the faster 4K monitors come out.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 11:25pm |
Guys you can't compare temps with eachother, room temps and your system config / parts will all yield different results.
All one needs to know about your temps is that if you put it under full load and your max temps are below 80c you are good to go and in the safe zone. the rest don't really matter. If I have 50c load temps and you have 40c, it does not mean a thing. you are not gaining anything on me, both of our parts life expectancy stay the same as each other (assuming we both have the same parts with the same life expectancy). You are basically comparing apples and soups here, not even oranges. Edited by DST4ME - 14 Oct 2016 at 11:26pm |
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Snaike
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 4:29am |
I like apple soup.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 4:36am |
Nothing wrong with apple soup as long as we don't compare them
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Tidgxor
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 9:44am |
What is this witchcraft. Somehow I have never had apple soup before. sorry for off-topic, but this is serious business Edited by Tidgxor - 15 Oct 2016 at 12:35pm |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 12:06pm |
Not off topic.... apple soup will raise your system temps.
Now, banana soup, that would be off topic. |
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Tidgxor
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 12:35pm |
But what if banana soup decreases your temps? Edited by Tidgxor - 15 Oct 2016 at 12:35pm |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 12:56pm |
Dang, you got me there.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 8:41pm |
banana soup decreases but bananas soup increases, so you are both right
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Xenecus
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 8:47pm |
I actually respectfully disagree... Hence why I want to baseline every variable including room temperature, only way to pin point issues with our cooling system... I figure the best place to ask is here given that chances of same parts are as good as it gets... |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 8:59pm |
Well then with all due respect you are wasting your time, only way I would compare cooling is to remove all the other catalyst, those are:
room temp humidity cooling parts parts being cooled case case cooling testing software cpu clock speed gpu clock speed once you have all those matched up you can then compare one part to the other, if you don't then you are wasting your time on random readings. second the only time something is wrong with your lc system is if your temps are below 80c, there is nobody that can trouble shoot a trouble that does not exist, and if you have temps below 80c then you don't have a problem that exist. Now as a personal thing you can put down your room temps and your load temps and then compare them at at a later time (say a year) to your own temps, to see if the performance has dropped or not, and some loss of performance is normal after some wear and tear, but a good up keep should keep that at a very little amount. But if you told me or anybody else or called up DS and said hey I have load temps of 67c but 5 others on the forums have 60c load what is wrong with my system? You would get the answer "there is nothing wrong with your system". You can then spend your time arguing but I can assure you there is no tech that will trouble shoot an lc system that has temps below 80c when fully under load. for example what temps a 5960x with say 1080gtx has with hydro pro has absolutely nothing to do with a system with 6950x and titan with hydro pro. You are going to have a very difficult time finding a tech that disagrees with that. Hope I made myself clear. Edited by DST4ME - 15 Oct 2016 at 9:18pm |
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Xenecus
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 9:11pm |
Simply put, i'm never wasting my time.... I have my goal in this thread... I'm simply looking in a pool of people that has a big chance of having a similar cooling system than mine with a Pascal GPU and a Broadwell-e... i didn't post this in the Alienware forums. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 9:17pm |
But look the temps of a 5960x is different then a 6950x so you can't compare those 2 cpus, the take into account the oc, 5960x at 4.0ghz is different than 6950x at 4.2ghz or even 4.0ghz.
so my question is this, if you have a 6950x and I have a 5960x, how can we compare our lc system performance? right off the bat they have different load temps. also if I play wow on my pc at 1080p and you play farcry on your pc at 1440p, we are going to have different temps, how are we comparing those? I didn't even get to the rest of the list. for me the only way I would even consider looking at your system and another is if you find somebody that has: Velox i7 6850x @ 4.5Ghz Asus Rampage V E.10 Titan X (Pascal) SLI 32GB DDR4 Samsung 950 Pro 512 GB 1200W AX1200i H20: HydroLux PRO (their pro has to be exact as yours since DS uses different parts for different systems) Win 10 show me a person that has those parts and the same room temp and humidity level as yours and we will compare temps after running the same test apps at the same res, with exact same fan/pump settings. Edited by DST4ME - 15 Oct 2016 at 9:22pm |
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Xenecus
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 9:26pm |
Are you serious? I wont be even taking into account anything but same architectures.. so the only baseline that works or me is Broadwell-e and Pascal SLI or as close as Titan X SLI, I'm certain there's more than me in this forum with this setup... Having said this, it may very well help someone with say Skylake to baseline with other skylake users.... it's not meant to be scientific testing but rather an 80/20 rule... Whether you're playing WoW or Witcher 3, full load is full load, this is why it's best when baseline against 3DMark or simir and I expect most people to know that.... unless the GPU's are 100% it isn't full load... WoW will probably average 30% load on Pascal.... Edit: Not looking for 1-2c differences but Idle temperatures that are ~10c or load temps that are ~10-15c with the same room temperatures and similar fans pumped-up could indicate a problem of which I had in my previous system that was returned... Edited by Xenecus - 15 Oct 2016 at 9:29pm |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 9:32pm |
That is not correct, wow puts a different amount of stress than farcry does, on top of that the amount of stress on the gpu changes with the res also. I posted the info I wanted to post for you, it seems you are stuck on doing this anyways, so I will let you to it. I'm just letting you know that if at the end you think you have come to some conclusion, you will have a difficult time finding others that will agree with your conclusion. The only way you will have any footing with others is if you have exact parts, and I mean exact, it can't be a pascal card, it has to be the exact sli you have, the exact mobo and everything else I listed. good luck. Edited by DST4ME - 15 Oct 2016 at 9:33pm |
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Xenecus
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 2016 at 9:39pm |
Whatever you say dude... ;)
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gdead65
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 4:29pm |
Originally posted by Xenecus "My CPU even at extreme benchmarks never goes above 75c and that's core 4, rest of the cores are 60c, for some odd reason Core #4 is a big offender and ~15c gap with the others." I know this is a old post- I ran into this as well with one core running hot, but found that one screw came a bit loose during shipping. Gentle turn and all is well! core 4 now always within 9deg of all the others. |
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