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    Posted: 14 Dec 2016 at 2:19am
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10907/amd-gives-more-zen-details-ryzen-34-ghz-nvme-neural-net-prediction-25-mhz-boost-steps

AMD is coming out swinging with the new Ryzen processors. They are leading off with the top-of-the-line model(s) and are seeing equivalent performance to the Intel i7-6900K processor.

They are claiming a frequency of 3.4GHz+ with 8-cores/16-threads...they are using pre-production engineering sample chips at-the-moment and are still optimizing them, so we could potentially see slightly better performance in the production chips. And if other leaks are true, their top-of-the-line chip will cost $500, compared to the $1100 i7-6900K.

Down-the-line models will be rolled out following the launch with a lower performing 8-core chip, a 6-core chip, and a 4-core chip. There will also be APU versions with 4-cores and an integrated Radeon GPU.

DS may want to consider adding some AMD options to their line-up once again, as these new Ryzen chips may eats Intels lunch in 2017, with similar or better performance at a much reduced price.

Also some food for thought: AMD has had the Heterogeneous System Architecture (HSA) for a while now...it be interesting to see how one of these new processors fairs with an AMD GPU using shared memory pointers in their Heterogeneous Unified Memory Architecture (HUMA). In layman's terms, this is where the GPU may access information in memory directly, as opposed to asking the CPU to retrieve it, bogging down the CPU a little and causing the retrieval to take longer.
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  Quote Dax Doomslayer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2016 at 5:45am
It looks promising. One can only hope that this lives up to the pre-hype. We need AMD to be back in the game. Intel has been gouging the consumer lately due to lack of competition. At half the price and similar performance, Intel will need to come back to earth with their pricing!! Competition is good.
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Wouldn't this be nice is it all proves to be true.  Another player in the field can only benefit the consumer. 

I'm so leary of AMD claims that my enthusiasm will have to wait. HahahaBig%20Smile
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2016 at 10:45am
Fingers crossed it's a hit so we can have good competition, and yes, Digital Storm will offer AMD hardware if they come out with a winner.
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  Quote  Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Dec 2016 at 2:38pm
Great to hear!

I'm reading my post again...lots of typo's...ugh, sleepiness showing through.
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Dec 2016 at 12:31pm
True, looks like the estimated $500 cpu is competing with the $1,100 Intel CPU. But AMD always seems to showcase these benchmarks that don't live up to the hype once they are released to the public. Their samples seem to be golden.

But, let's play the hypothetical game and say it's at least within 10% of what they are showcasing. Then thank the lord above Intel has competition again and hopefully we shall see pricing coming down.

The real question though is how much of a real work difference will we see with the dual channel vs quad channel for anyone not running high end workstation level applications such as CAD.

JayzTwoCents (I know I reference him a lot) plans on doing a video to actually show case the performance differences between running things such as 8 sticks in a dual channel set up vs quad to give us real world results.

It's quite curious as to why AMD chose to only have a dual channel IMC.
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  Quote  Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Dec 2016 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by Meller

True, looks like the estimated $500 cpu is competing with the $1,100 Intel CPU. But AMD always seems to showcase these benchmarks that don't live up to the hype once they are released to the public. Their samples seem to be golden.


AMD seems to be trying to be more legitimate this time around...possibly because they've been burned by this in the past. They are using binaries from the benchmarks you can download straight off the respective websites and are offering up the exact tests to try out on your own.

Originally posted by Meller

The real question though is how much of a real work difference will we see with the dual channel vs quad channel for anyone not running high end workstation level applications such as CAD.

JayzTwoCents (I know I reference him a lot) plans on doing a video to actually show case the performance differences between running things such as 8 sticks in a dual channel set up vs quad to give us real world results.

It's quite curious as to why AMD chose to only have a dual channel IMC.


It may have to do with the AM4 platform and the socket. AMD intends to share the same platform across it's entire processor range. The density of PGA is less than LGA, so getting in those additional pins for the traces of the extra memory channel may have necessitated going to a much larger package size...one larger than they may have been willing to do for their lower cost offerings. I've seen benchmarks in the past (like this one) looking and the dual channel versus quad channel did not have very much difference for most things. Just compression suffered...I'm thinking perhaps video editing may be affected, but even CAD I don't think would take much of any hit.
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  Quote Meller Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 11:29am
With the high frequency of DDR4, and the increase in space per module, you're probably right.

What we're giving up in quad channel is being compensated by the higher frequencies. Plus, Dual VS quad makes no difference in gaming. So it's really only the professional market. But honest, when you're dealing with stuff like high end CAD work, I'd hope you'd be on a true work station. ECC + Xeon/Server Grade CPU's is the better option. So over all, I find it to be quire irrelevant.
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Alex (and anyone else interested in Ryzen or getting excellent performance-per-dollar), you may want to listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47SjIqXi_Ms#t=47m32s
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Would love to be able to buy a Bolt second half of the year with Ryzen CPU and the Vega 10 X2 (Dual GPU's on one card) that is due to be released 2nd half of the year.

According to some articles I have seen on the web, Ryzen should be out by 3 March, which is the last day of the GDC.
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  Quote Sgt.Moore Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 7:48am
I feel its one of those "I will believe it when I see it" when it comes to AMD. They seem to DRASTICALLY over exaggerate specs, price, performance, or any pre release information.
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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 3:36pm
It's sold out. Intel is on the ropes on this one. Is it "rope a dope" time again or Ryzen the real deal? Real time use will tell pretty soon.Big%20Smile
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With Intel's reaction and calling in favors I'm starting to think AMD might finally have a hit on their hands.    I hope so.   The market does better with competition.     
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  Quote Dax Doomslayer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 4:20pm
It's about darn time. Intel has gotten incredibly greedy without the competition. This is good news for all consumers IF it's come to bear that AMD has finally hit one out of the park. Then maybe it'll give them enough cash to up their game over on the video card side - lol...
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Independent reviews have been done but are still covered by a NDA with AMD. My understanding is the reviews will be able to be released to the public on the official release date which is March 2nd. Lets hope for the best.
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