New workstation/gaming rig buildPost Date: 2015-09-25 |
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elmoe
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Topic: New workstation/gaming rig build Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 3:42pm |
Budget:
$10,000 Usage: * Gaming (primarily WoW, Overwatch and Battlefield 4) * Twitch streaming * Blu ray transcoding * Android simulator + some compiling Configuration Code: 1288531 Total Price with Instant Savings: $9,042.00 Direct Load URL: https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=1288531 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Aventum 3 Exterior Finish: Black Metallic Matte Finish Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 5930K 3.5GHz (Six-Core) (Unlocked CPU) Motherboard: ASUS X99-E WS (Intel X99 Chipset) (Workstation Class) System Memory: 32GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance) Power Supply: 2x Dual (1200W Corsair AX1200i (Digitally Controlled Power) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Slim Slot Loading Edition) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 1: 1x SSD mini-SAS (400GB Intel 750 Series) (2.5 inch - NVM Express) (Extreme Performance) Storage Set 2: - No Thanks Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (ASUS Strix Edition) <br><strong></strong> Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Hardline: Digital Storm Acrylic Tubing Custom Cooling System (Video Cards + CPU) H20 Tube Color:White Tubing (Requires Custom HydroLux Liquid Cooling System) Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: Digital Storm RGB LED Lighting System (Requires Thermal Management Control Board & Software) Airflow Control: Digital Storm Thermal Management Control Board & Software Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires High-End Motherboard Selection) Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Portable Gaming: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 15-20 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 5 Year Limited Warranty (5 Year Labor & 3 Year Part Replacement) Questions: So I've been trying to call Digital Storm sales to figure this out and place my order but unfortunately they have been busy and it just goes to voice mail. I also tried the "email us" option but I'm not sure the average turn around time on those. Hence I've decided to ask the community here. 1.) Is Digital Storm using the USB 3.1 refresh of the Asus X99-E WS motherboard? All of the other boards in the configurator drop down list USB 3.1 specifically but not this one. 2.) Does the current bios rev for the Asus X99-E WS/USB 3.1 motherboard support NMVe drives? I've read conflicting reports on the forums about this. 3.) Does the H2O hardline acrylic piping option include a waterblock on the motherboard chipset? It seems more ambiguous exactly what the acrylic option provides. I want CPU + chipset + both GPUs on water. 4.) When you select the H2O hardline option does it still respect the tube color option? I want white acrylic piping like in the following picture. This is the exact look I am trying to achieve: http://www.computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/ces-2015/first-look-digital-storm-aventum-3/digital-storm-aventum-3-hard-tubing/1181801-1-eng-US/digital-storm-aventum-3-hard-tubing_slideshow_main.jpg Thank you all for the help. Hopefully I can get on the phone with Digital Storm soon and get this order placed. |
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 6:16pm |
1. good question that only DS can answer unless someone on these boards has recently ordered/received that specific model
2. according to Asus ALL X99 and Z97 mobos support NVMe with a bios update and their "Hyper Kit Expansion Card". 3. i've seen picks of some of their acrylic builds with a mobo (as in that pick you linked) waterblock on them, but not all. perhaps an item that needs to be specified in the build notes? 4. if you're referring to the configurator options, i think all of those tubing color options are for flex tubing only, not hardline acrylic (i think DS just uses clear tubing as a "factory" bent config). again, you can probably get colored acrylic tubing as an option (which will add to the build time) by specifying it in the additional build notes. Edited by db188 - 25 Sep 2015 at 6:21pm |
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 6:27pm |
@db188 Thanks for the reply.
I got through to sales on the phone and the suggestion was to proceed with the order and then work through the finer details. Order placed and I'll work through the rest with DS over e-mail hopefully early next week! Edited by elmoe - 25 Sep 2015 at 6:28pm |
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Clay
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 6:44pm |
BOOM!
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 6:50pm |
no problem bud, congrats on the order. make sure you hammer out the details with them really soon so they don't get too far into the build stage and charge you extra for changes. Alex seems to be really on the ball with direct emails to him as to checking up on orders and confirming the details with tech staff.
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 7:16pm |
@db188 Thanks I shot @Alex an e-mail! I'm not sure how to add additional build notes.
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 7:19pm |
it was in the configurator somewhere towards the bottom.
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 12:14pm |
Awesome system! Feel free to contact me at anytime "[email protected]"
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 3:56pm |
@Alex Thanks, already got your mail and have replied. Appreciate the weekend response!
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 4:11pm |
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2015 at 10:08am |
Figured I would update the forum goers with the answers Alex was able to provide wrt my build listed above.
1.) Digital Storm is currently still using the older pre-USB 3.1 revision of the Asus X99-E WS motherboard. Alex put in a special order for the updated version with USB 3.1 for my build. 2.) The latest bios revision for the Asus X99-E WS (both USB 3.1 and 3.0 variants) supports NVMe hard drives via PCI-E or M.2. I went with M.2. 3.) Water cooling for the chipset is only available when using the Asus Rampage V X99 motherboard. Digital Storm does not have water blocks for anything other than the CPU for the Asus X99-E WS motherboard unfortunately. So looks like I'll have to live without chipset water cooling on this new build. This is mainly disappointing from an aesthetics standpoint as I think it would look better. This shouldn't have any practical impact on overclocking with this board as the chipset is passively cooled anyway. 4.) Alex said he will pass on the image I provided of the other Aventum 3 build so that the DS team can try to make the look as close as possible. I'm going for that black + white look. Hope this helps anyone else considering a similar build. |
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2015 at 10:09am |
Oh yeah, and I am now officially in stage 1 payment processed.
Now the long and agonizing 3-4 week wait begins! |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2015 at 10:14am |
Thanks for the info and update.
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Snaike
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2015 at 10:16am |
If you want that fancy "Verified Customer" badge, simply make certain that your ordering email address and your forums email address are exactly the same (Case SenSiTivE). |
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 2015 at 9:21am |
Quick update on my build.
I've been in stage 3 since Oct 1st but just received a call from Tammy @ Digital Storm. She was clarifying exactly the look I wanted for the water cooling setup. I sent her the following picture and which she said would be the hardliners option with white fluid and then white cabling. She said she was passing this information on to the tech working on my build. http://www.computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/ces-2015/first-look-digital-storm-aventum-3/digital-storm-aventum-3-hard-tubing/1181801-1-eng-US/digital-storm-aventum-3-hard-tubing_slideshow_main.jpg Feels like progress now back to the agonizing wait! |
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 1:36pm |
Making progress slowly but surely. Alex was good enough to get some pictures of my build in progress this week.
For those who are curious here are my stage dates so far: Stage 1 - 9/28 Stage 2 - 10/1 Stage 3 - 10/1 Stage 4 - 10/26 Stage 5 - 10/28 |
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hoserator
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 2:16pm |
Sweeeet Love that SLI bridge.and wire work. Its art!!
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 2:49pm |
That is a fine looking rig.
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 3:00pm |
dude, that's your rig? i saw that on one of their social media feeds (twitter i think). you ripped off my config!! jk. that's the same fc terminal i chose for my AV3 build. i'm also going with a black/white color theme (too many red and now yellow rigs out there).
nice pics. i'm stuck in stage 3 because i'm waiting on special order fans. Edited by db188 - 31 Oct 2015 at 3:10pm |
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Aventum 3
I7-6700K Gigabyte G1 Z170X Gaming GT 16GB Corsair Dominator 3000MHz Corsair Hx1000i 1000W Samsung M.2 980 Pro 2TB;Samsung 850 EVO 1TB MSI RTX 3080 Ventus OC 10G LHR Gigabyte M28U 4K |
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 3:08pm |
i hate that everything is upside down due to the mobo rotation. i wonder why the chose to design the build around that side of the case? oh well.
hopefully they secure that LED strip better prior to shipping. wish they'd sleeve all of their wires too. |
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Aventum 3
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 3:17pm |
Keep in mind these are work in progress pics while they are doing the build. Alex grabbed those shots because he and I were double checking the aesthetics over email. Hence why things like the LED strip and wires are not all secured fully.
That motherboard orientation is actually better for air cooling in my opinion which is a guess why they choose that as the standard for the Aventum 3. I also feel like it is more convenient for install/removal of PCI cards. It would be cool in the future if you could pick your orientation though. Very cool fans you have on special order. I just stuck with the Corsair Air series since they have the different color plastic rings you can use (white in this case). Not sure if it is my build you saw on one of their social media feeds or just one of the prototype builds they demoed at CES this year. I modeled the aesthetics of mine off of that. |
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 3:41pm |
oh you're right, that build had flex tubing, my bad. the same fc terminal though. i wasn't comfortable with AF fans on those rads, so i was initially going to use NoiseBlocker e-loop SP fans, but they're hard to get a hold of. these Cougar's were more readily available and cheaper! i wanted the LED-less black model, but again, too hard to find. i'm hoping these white LED versions work well. they're well-reviewed (good performance and really quiet).
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Clay
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 4:04pm |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 5:17pm |
I wish we could sleeve every single wire on the PC, but that's a lot of labor work that would be quite expensive.
If anyone is interested, let me know, I'm sure we can do a special request, but it will be very expensive. |
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 5:53pm |
if you buy a Corsair psu don't they come with optional replacement sleeved power cables? all you have left are the front panel connectors, right? depending on how much more expensive it would be i might be interested.
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 6:45pm |
Just hit stage 6!
Stage 1 - 09/28 Stage 2 - 10/01 Stage 3 - 10/01 Stage 4 - 10/26 Stage 5 - 10/28 Stage 6 - 11/01 |
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Clay
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 7:05pm |
Freakin Beast!!
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 9:45pm |
Alex, you guys know those two GPUs are going through the same PLX chip, so you are essentially connecting both of those GPUs to the processor with only 16 PCIe lanes instead of 32 lanes, right?
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 10:29pm |
Hopefully @Alex can shed some more light. According to the block diagram in the motherboard manual it does look like both slot 1 and slot 3 share the same 16x PCI-E bridge and the PLX switch is multiplexing 16 into 32 lanes. However, for a 2-way SLI setup Asus does recommend this set up of using slot 1 and slot 3 which is confusing. According to this detailed review either slot 3 or slot 5 can be used and should result in the same performance. http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/reviews/hardware/motherboards/33768-reviewed-asus-x99-e-ws-intel-x99-motherboard.html?start=1 This review claims that slot 1 is an "addition 16 lanes coming off the CPU". This is odd considering the block diagram does show it going through the same bridge as slot 3/4. Also found this interesting read that indicates we shouldn't think too hard about this for gaming workloads: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Impact-of-PCI-E-Speed-on-Gaming-Performance-518/ That doesn't account for the overhead of the PLX switching of course. My GPGPU accelerated statistical modeling may suffer. Edited by elmoe - 01 Nov 2015 at 11:06pm |
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2015 at 11:52pm |
Yeah, going from x16 to x8 doesn't lose you much. However the ability to go to use 32 lanes is there and I would certainly try to take advantage of everything the system has to offer. You might as well go with a Z170 system if you're only going to use 16 lanes from the processor.
The diagram you posted above looks like it is for the i7-5820K with only 28 PCI-e lanes from the processor. The PCI-e x8 link from the processor will be PCI-e x16 with an i7-5930K and i7-5960X. The only reason why I can think of a recommendation to use slot 1 and slot 3 for a 2-way set-up would be for compute workloads that have extensive GPU-to-GPU communications that can bypass the processor with a PLX switch. |
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elmoe
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2015 at 12:23am |
Yeah I think with the 5930k the diagram is the same but with 16 lanes going to the second PCI-e bridge instead of 8 for a full 40. Agreed that doing 2-way SLI in slot 1 and slot 5 would probably be optimal. Not sure how much it would matter in pratice though.
It is hard to find much concrete info on the overhead of the PLX multiplexing too. As for peer-to-peer between two GPUs on the same bridge, I have no clue if games utilize this or if it is even available on non-Quadro cards. Curious what you see as the real advantage of Z170? I debated this but wanted the 2 extra cores for the non-gaming workloads this will do. |
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2015 at 1:47am |
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2015 at 2:28am |
it only drops down to x8 if you populate the secondary slots (they're all routed x8). as long as you populate the 1,3,5,7 slots you're good for x16/x16/x16/x16. the PLX chip takes its 16 lanes upstream and comes back down with 32.
slots 1 and 3 are on the the first PLX chip and slots 5 and 7 on the second. if you populate slot 2 it will drop slot 3 down to x8. populating slot 4 will drop slot 5 down to x8, etc. can't eliminate all latency, so there is overhead with the PLX switches, but it's minimal. |
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Clay
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2015 at 3:09am |
I thought DS has its own "proprietary" way of building..? No..?
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Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2015 at 8:12am |
Nope. They use commodity parts that are replaceable and upgradeable. The case is their own, though. |
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