Looking for a good rig

for 1900 x 1200 you don't need a 5970, its overkill, all you need is a 5870.

in 2 month time, nvidia will have the Fermi out which will out perform the 5870, I recommend you go with that.

i7 920 with stage one oc is what you want.

with the x58 platform you will get 6GB of ram.

I'm not sure how you gonna get a good monitor with a res of 1900 x 1200, a 5970, and 920 and stay under 2 grand at DS.

but lest see what the prices are in 2 month, with a bit of luck it might work

well 5970 is not really future proof, plus you would get better performance from 2 x 5870 then 1 x 5970. and if you wait to add the second when you need it, you would pay less for 2 x 5870 and enjoy better performance.

right now I'm looking at the config page, and:

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Interior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Card Reader: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5970 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-U12P High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Tweak Windows: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: - Not Available
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

is priced at $2227 and that is with no monitor.

with a 5870 its at $2108

Noctua is air of course, it wouldn't say "Air Stage 2" if it was not air, I know the name makes it sound like liquid tho

I suggest you start looking at newegg for monitor and mouse and keyboard and etc, you will save a bit of money.

My pleasure

I'm just a customer like you, I'm sure they will have some kind of promotion around that time, but I don't know if its gonna be discount or bundles.

Sorry for double posting, but may I ask one question about the video cards shipped out here?

Will the 5970 come in a XFX addition or any other addition or just a plain Branded Ati addition? Just through curiosity.

I read around here and realized that the 5970 and the 5870's are short in stock?

Hopefully they will be in stock in 2 months, because I would really want my hands on a 5970......but Ati is growing everyday as more and more people get the 5970 lol

Yea, next year ati is gonna release there 6000 series.....too quickly I believe.

the reason is because now in days, the gpu solution I recommended will give you 50 to 60 fps at your resolution.

this means you are getting smooth game play, and after 60 fps you can't tell the difference, so if stock you are getting 60 fps and oced you are getting 95 fps, you will never notice the difference between the two, so why bring the extra heat to the equation when the performance will not be noticed.

and trust me, next year this time, we will be talking about nvidia not ati , but you never know, so lets see

No they don't offer the same performance.thanks to justin for the link.

Edited by DST4ME - 30 Nov 2009 at 6:56pm

I'm thinking the savings in going to be in bundles and tweaks so you can figure around how much you would spend now, minus a $100 or so, of course that is pure assumption and could be completely wrong.

5970 is overkill, the 5970 is for 2560 x 1600 resolution or higher, below that res a 5970 is overkill unless you are playing crysis.

Well, for one it outperforms a 5870 and will run everything flawlessly on 1920 x 1200 resolutions, as I may be adding another monitor and maybe even playing on a 60" TV with EXTREMELY high resolutions.

5970 is good for high resolutions and high-end gaming and is mostly futureproof, yea that is why xD

the 5970 will run everything a 5970 can at 1900 x 1200, with 4xaa even a 5970 can't pull crysis, so for 1900 x 1200 in most games you won't be able to tell if the system is running a 5870 or 5970, therefore its overkill, cause you won't notice the difference.

at 2560 x 1600 you will begin to notice the difference between 1 x 5870 and 1 x 5970.

if your 60 inch has a 1900 x 1200, then you can't tell the difference between a 5870 and 5970 on that tv either in most games.

now on the other hand if your tv or monitor will have a res of 2560 x 1600, then you need to get a 5970.

We will see

Nvidia is always about having the crown and not the most popular, tho by having the crown you do become most popular as ati just proved it.

ati won't be releasing the next gen cards before end of summer of 2010.

based on performance nvidia has been king till the 58xx.

like I said we will see.


Edited by DST4ME - 02 Dec 2009 at 3:52pm

nvidia will come out on top for sure, right now its just a question of when.

Originally posted by justin.kerr Originally posted by DST4ME ati won't be releasing the next gen cards before end of summer of 2010. based on performance nvidia has been king till the 58xx. like I said we will see. Nvidia has not been the king till the 5800. lol ATI has held the top spot with many GPU's though the years.   ATI will not becoming out with the next gen anytime soon.. maybe Nov-Dec 2010.. that would be the earliest.