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    Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 4:17pm
My budget is strictly $2000-2500. Am using this PC primarily for gaming. Only other uses would be simple applications and web browsing. Here is what i am looking at:

- GFX: XFX Radeon HD 5970
- CPU: Intel i5 750
- RAM: 4GB 1600Mhz 
- PSU: Corsair 750w TX
- SSD: Intel 80gb
- Harddrive: WD 500GB, 7200rpm
- Mobo: EVGA P55 SLI
- Case: Coolermaster HAF 922

-OC CPU, GPU
-Blue case lighting


This ends up coming to $2045, which leaves me room to purchase a monitor and speakers and still be about in budget.

Concerns:

1) Will the i5-750 slow down the HD 5970 at all?

2) How does the Mobo work with the HD 5970, does it only take up the x16 PCI slot since it is "one" card?

3) Will the 750w PSU be enough to power OC CPU, GPU?

4) Should i cut the 80gb SSD down to 40gb? This would mean i could only put the OS on there. I like the idea of putting the current games i am playing on there as well. Also, the 80gb has a bit better overall performance since it is larger. But it is a $130 difference which may not be worth it.

5) Will stock fans be enough to cool this thing down? I know the HAF 922 has good airflow, and the 5970 does a pretty good job of staying cool, but i am not sure.

Anyway, thank you for any and all help!
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 4:36pm
1) Your budget is enough to stuff in a good i7 build (see below).

2) The 5970 is nice, but seriously, GTX 480's will end up dishing out better performance.

3) 750w is good, but seriously, if you're going dual GPU with a 5970, you'll want a 1000w. If you decide to go with 480s, as in, dual 480s, 1200w is recommended.

4) If you want to put games on it, keep 80GB unless you really need some budget room.

5) Stock fans will do well. You have to remember, things were tested to perform correctly out of the factory using stock settings. Anything you overclock beyond factory, then you upgrade the stock. In most cases, the CPU stock is upgraded, but otherwise, it's not that necessary for other things, unless you go into such extreme overclocking that it really really matters.

unable to really do a good price/perf config at the moment without knowing exactly how much your budget will be excluding peripherals, how much are you allotting for that?

will post a baseline build for now o_o

my suggested baseline point

Originally posted by ablahblah @ DS Forum Post >>BASELINE BUILDS<<
Basic i7 Gamer - Common Budget Limit $2000



Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Parts)

Price: - $1633



Edited by ablahblah - 03 Jul 2010 at 4:51pm
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Core i7 920 @ 3.9Ghz
Asus Sabertooth X58
EVGA GTX 570
Mushkin 6GB 1414Mhz
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  Quote Compulsion Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 5:15pm
My budget minus peripherals is $2200.

I believe i will be getting these for monitor/speakers:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053&cm_re=asus_21.5-_-24-236-053-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836116048


The main reason i wanted the i5 is for budget reasons, and since i will only be gaming it is supposed to provide the same performance as i7.


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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 5:45pm
damn. you're right. I can't keep a steady budget strictly under $2200 with an i7 build.

well, alright. I have an i7 config at $2278, and an i5 config at $2190. depends on how much wiggle room you might have, which I think you really don't have, right? your choice though.

i5 build @ $2190

i7 Build @ $2278
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Asus Sabertooth X58
EVGA GTX 570
Mushkin 6GB 1414Mhz
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  Quote dustymanhp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 6:00pm
Why don't u just go AMD and save some money...too many intel whores on this forum.... and i would definitely stick with the 5970 over the Nvidia 480... go with an ASUS mobo as well... and yes, drop down to the 40 GB SSD and only use it for OS.
Dang intel whores Upset
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 6:59pm
I make suggestions based on Intel systems, and I'm called an intel whore. you troll around like the rest of them calling us intel whores. makes me reflex on what "amd whores" you are. we're not hating on AMD. we just like intel. if you prefer AMD, seriously, instead of trolling, post of a damn suggestion to these threads for once. -.-

Edited by ablahblah - 03 Jul 2010 at 6:59pm
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  Quote dustymanhp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 12:12am
im pretty sure i did suggest something
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 12:31am
as in, configuration....jeeze....
I posted a three full configurations up there
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  Quote Compulsion Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 3:09am
I definitely prefer Intel normally, but after looking into the benchmarks, i seems like i can save a lot of money by going AMD. Also, as an added bonus it looks like the Asus crosshair IV motherboard allows x16/x16 for the HD 5970. I made up a configuration with AMD, how does this look:

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=419832


Edited by Compulsion - 04 Jul 2010 at 3:10am
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  Quote rholyrag Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 6:15am
Standard factory heat-sink and fan is selected in the config, do you plan on staying with the factory heat-sink?
 
Here is a link of benchmarks for both AMD and Intel.  Hope this makes your decision easier between the AMD 955 and the Intel I5.  If I read the benchmark right, they are at stock speeds.
 


Edited by rholyrag - 04 Jul 2010 at 7:12am
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 12:13pm
you are saving a bit of money, but factor in the cost of the 2Gb of RAM you are losing the AMD build, and the lower performance.. not a better value, IMHO..I would not get the 5970 GPU, get a GTX 480, or dual 5870's.I thought the 5970 would get a lot better in time, because the drivers were new, but now since it has been out for so long, it just does not perform that well in games..
The GTX 480, would be a lot more "future proof" with 50% more memory, and better tessellation.
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  Quote rodsmith Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 1:15pm
here is a nice rig that I think you would be happy with!!!
 
 
but if you really must have the 5970 video card here is another config
 


Edited by rodsmith - 04 Jul 2010 at 1:28pm
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  Quote Compulsion Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 3:15pm
Originally posted by rodsmith

here is a nice rig that I think you would be happy with!!!
 
 
but if you really must have the 5970 video card here is another config
 


Yeah, i think i like the first build. I kind of want to upgrade the PSU to the 1000w corsair. If i did that would i be able to support another 480 later if i wanted to?
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  Quote rodsmith Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 3:37pm
I think you would be ok with the 1000 ps,but  if you really wanted peace of mind it would cost you 49 dollars over the 2200 dollar budget to get the 1200 power supply.  I think it would be money well spent!

Edited by rodsmith - 04 Jul 2010 at 3:42pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 7:40pm
if you want to do dual sli then you want the 1250 enermax, if not then the 750w corsair will do for you.

For psu-s here go with brand names, they offer better quality and reliability.

Edited by DST4ME - 04 Jul 2010 at 7:41pm
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