1st custom Game PCPost Date: 2011-05-12 |
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runesage
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Topic: 1st custom Game PCPosted: 12 May 2011 at 8:51pm |
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Hey, ok so after alot of looking around at custom pc sites this one seems to stand out from the rest so I figured ill give it a shot.
I currently have a makeshift game computer so this is my first true custom built game computer. This will be mostly for games and video editing, in addition to normal daily computer work. Games I play Starcraft 2, Crisis 2, various others and im getting alot more into PC gaming so im planning to have it in use alot. Budget: WouId LOVE to stay under $3000, but im flexable to $3500; I have a monitor with res of 1920x1080 (might upgrade that in the near future too) so right now im looking for the computer only. Im trying to get a quiet set up also which is one reason ive gone toward the LC. Im curious what you have to say about my set up. Im open to suggestions! Thanks in advance! Ticket: 541097 |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 1:10am |
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Even in Lc if you don't use low cfm rads with low cfm fans, you will endup with a loud system, as high cfm fas are high dba, aka loud.
what if I told you that you need to be at $3700? and even then you won't be in the recommended case. plus if you are going to higher res than what you have, you gonna want the 6970/580 for higher vram, and that will take the cost even higher then $3700. and that is without requesting low cfm rads/fans. Having said that, staying with sli 570, this is what I would recommend: Here you go Ticket# 541294 --- $3871 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards H20 Tube Color:Blue Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service) Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty for LC on spu/gpu, you want a big case with room, and a very sturdy one, the hailstorm is that case, unfortunately to get it, we have to go to black-ops section, which is always more expensive. to edit your own config for best price/performance: Here you go Ticket# 541300 --- $3693 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service) Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans: haf 200mm non led fan the haf x is a great case for air cooling but falls a bit short if you want LC on both cpu and gpu, for cpu only is ok, but for gpu also, you start to lose airflow to make way for rads and etc. now on both these builds, there are two things you can do to bring cost down IMHO: 1. drop the ssd and add it later, and go with the 1TB BC for hdd1 for now till you get the ssd, then use ssd for hdd1 and push 1TB to hdd2 for storage, remember: HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage 2. keep the ssd and drop the 1TB BC, use the ssd for everything for a short time and then add the 1TB BC in a few month as hdd2 for storage and move all personal/work/media files from the ssd to the 1TB hdd. There is still a matter of higher res in teh future needing more vram for high aa settings, if you don't care about high aa settings, and don't play games like gta4, then the sli 570 will do find in games at higher res. |
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runesage
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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 10:36am |
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Thanks for the detailed report it really helped me out!
Funny i was originally looking at the Hail storm case but moved to the other section for lower costs but if its better for my needs it might be worth it. Think I will also take your advice for the SSD and upgrade to it later. (that was more of an "i want this but dont NEED it right now" anyway)
The vram is something else im going to have to go back over and see if i want to upgrade that also.
Only question i would have would be on the LC. I know its good for cooling and protection Im just wondering if its going to be worth the price of cooling both cpu and gpu or if air cooling would make that big a difference. Someone mentioned to me that just having the gpu liquid cooled might be a good idea if possible?
Thanks again!
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DST4ME
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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 4:16pm |
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when you get the ssd, clone it to the 1TB, that way you move everything in one shot and no need to reinstall anything.
you can follow my clone guide here once its done and working correctly, format and push the 1TB to hdd2. LC is not needed and is a luxury, on both cpu and gpu. |
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runesage
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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 5:36pm |
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Good tip seems easy enough (and i hate reinstalling everything). The forums around here have been very useful and informative so i feel alot better about some of my options.
Thanks for the help!
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DST4ME
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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 5:45pm |
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My pleasure and good luck
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runesage
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Posted: 17 May 2011 at 8:02pm |
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Hey again, so before finalizing my order (this week i hope) I made a few adjustments to the build. Thought i would see everyone thought of this.
Same budget ect; Major changes to the build, I dropped LC due to the fact not a single person has said "yes you NEED that" so i figured why spend the extra cash on that. Upgraded to the SLI 580s; From what i read i need to ask for another 200m fan for the case, but other than that any thoughts, or possible suggestions as to tweek this at all (fan add ons, special requests anything like that? Also any thoughts on going with the 160gb vs 120gb SSD? Ticket: 544344 Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 1000W SliverStone Strider Gold (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (ST1000-G) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series SSDSA2CW160G3K5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only) Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty |
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Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:53pm |
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Just a thought but i game at 1080 with one gtx 580 and it performs great. Really think 2 may be overkill.
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runesage
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 12:38am |
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Yea i thought of that, i was considering the 2 cards since i was thinking of increasing the res. with a new monitor but thats still up in the air. Could always just grab a 2nd card later on i guess also if needed.
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 1:53am |
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I would go with one 580 now, add the second later.
I would go with the 1TB black caviar as hdd2. you won't see any difference between the 120GB and 160GB intel, you sure you need the 160GB? you don't need the D14, go with Noctua NH-U12P, difference is 3 to 5c, and with the u12, choose the next stage oc at least. at 1900 x 1200, or at 2560 x 1600 with no/low aa settings, my build will match yours config's performance in games, however in everything else mine is faster. |
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runesage
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 1:36pm |
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Going with the 120gb (i forgot my current computer has alot of junk that will not be on the new computer so i wont need a 160 after all); Checked out the u12, seems good and if the difference is that small seems better to stay away from the d14 (that thing looked massive anyway); My reason for the d14 was better cooling anyway. I am assuming that the u12 would handle my cooling needs fine even with the oc pushed up since your recommending that.
I actually end up saving money going with your build and can just upgrade to the other 580 later if needed so seems like a win win!
Thanks!
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 3:32pm |
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If the cooler is an issue, DS will call you and let you know, it should be fine.
My pleasure and good luck
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