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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: $2300 build suggestions
    Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 7:59pm
Hello all.  I  am wanting to build a gaming system to play BFBC 2 and MW2 my budget is $2300.  Looking for suggestions. Thanks
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 8:06pm
what resolution?
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 8:12pm
I would like to do at least 1680x1050
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 8:15pm
What is the native resolution of your monitor? that is what counts.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 8:35pm
I am not sure I will have to find out when I get home.  It is a samsung 22" widescreen
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 8:37pm
do you know the model? if not then depending on how old it is, it could be around 1600 x 1200 or 1900 x 1200.

once we find this out we can build the pc around that.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 9:01am
Ok the main monitor  is a samsung syncmaster 225bw 22"  1680 x 1050 native resolution. I am also using a secondary 19" samsung 940bw.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 2:15pm
Nvidia system:

Here you go Ticket# 401489 --- Price: $2325 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2325

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
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Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
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Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
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Ati system:

Here you go Ticket# 401490 --- Price: $2259 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2259

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

for BFBC 2 dx11 you might need to oc the cards some to get over 50 to 60 fps.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 3:10pm

Your builds were very similar to what I did,  except I chose the 5870. My builds were a bit over budget.  Which would you recommend the ati 5870 or nvidia 470.  For the extra $$ would you recomend  going w/ the 6g corsair dominator(what's the difference).  Also why do you chose the Noctua over the Asatek.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 3:15pm
with a good oc you can get teh same perfomrance as a 5870 with a 470, but it will run warmer then the 5870, so really its your choice.

don't worry about the ram, whatever really makes a difference is what you see in my build, if you don't see it in my build then its because its a waste to have it, with the exception of sound card, sound card I leave up to the user themselves.

I chose Noctua cause its better then asetek, asetek is not a real LC system, it does not have the same performance as a real LC system like frostchill/subzero.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 3:21pm

on the HD what about a 32MB Cache vs the 16MB would I see any benefit

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 3:23pm
the 32MB would be a bit faster but its not in the budget, the plan is in a few month buy a ssd and use that for HDD1 for OS/Games/Apps, and push the 500GB to HDD2 and use it for storage.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Apr 2010 at 5:35pm
how much  faster is the ssd and what benefit in games would I see .they are so expensive if go w/ any kind of decent size.  I can always up the budget to $2500.  What sucks is I am already in the hole $150 w/ a bad experience from cyberpower.
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cyberpower sucks, all ssds are not the same.

a fast hdd or ssd will speed up boot times for os and games, and make anything that has to do with hdd/ssd go much faster, file transfer, read/write, ssds have the best speed for small files (4K) and that is the most important speed to have, cause most of the suff done are in small files, also ssds have no seektime.

I would wait till the end of the year then add a ssd yourself, its real easy, to move the os and everything in one shot from the 500GB HDD to SSD follow my clone guide, you can follow my clone guide here

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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Apr 2010 at 9:29am
what brand of memory is the 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series
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not sure if it changes from time to time, I have been looking through the pictures trying to determine...one time I thought it looked like Mushkin Silver Line but there is another picture in here where it is definitely Super Talent
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Apr 2010 at 3:48pm
it varies
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right now i think it's kingston.

ssd's will rev up anything starting up. basically, a path of the computer data goes like this: HD --Work Information--> CPU and GPU --Finished Work--> RAM. a faster HD means the quicker you can get stuff for your CPU to work on. SSDs are superior to regular Hard Disks, I've seen people previously owning Velociraptors that run at 10,000 rpm and still seeing a major performance increase.
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  Quote Damon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Apr 2010 at 8:21pm
What is the best SSD offered by DS currently that would optimize gaming??
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 1:44am
Originally posted by Damon

What is the best SSD offered by DS currently that would optimize gaming??

The only SSDs I see in the Special Deals configure area worth considering are the Corsair Nova series or the Intel 80GB. The Intel SSD is heaps and bounds better than the Nova series in almost every way, so I would definitely recommend the Intel.

Some people might feel 80GB isn't enough for their needs as an OS/apps/games drive, to which I simply counter, get two or more of them for RAID0. Then you get not only more space but performance many times greater than any single SSD will be able to achieve for years to come.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 3:18am
Intel/corsair/vertex are good ssds to look at, intel is king.
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  Quote Damon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 7:04am
So which model offered by DS is the best???
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 7:11am
Originally posted by Damon

So which model offered by DS is the best???

I just covered that on the first page of the thread? =\
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 4:03pm

Originally posted by Damon

So which model offered by DS is the best???


as I said all 3 are good but intel is king

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ok here is my $2300 build.  A few questions.
I can up my budget to $2500 if I can get equipment that will give me a performance boost.
 
Will I benefit  going w/ the corsair dominator memory
Everyone says the Nactua D14 is better than the asetek 240mm but it is so huge  and I hear it will raise the case temps and I was excited to hear i could get LC that required no maintenance.
Also I am still tossed between the 5870 and the 480 for gpu
 
 
Ticket Number: 402667
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,290.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=402667

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB HOT SELLER (Sapphire Vapor-X 100281VXSR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: - Not Available
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
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That is almost exactly the build I ordered. I got it today, and I'm in love....Disapprove 
 
The premium memory won't do a thing for performance. 
I thought the D14 was huge too, so I went with the smaller (and cheaper! ) one.
DST4ME convinced me that the Noctua fans both cool better than Asetek, and that's what the heck it's about, right?
 I got the 5870 for the simple reason it uses way less power, and it runs way cooler. The 480 and the 470 run at full load nearly 200 deg F (93-95 C). My PC room is the warmest room in the house here in Florida, so I was fighting uphill. Geek  If I didn't live in Hell, Jr. I'd have gone 480.
 DST (and others) always recommend the Corsair power supply for no worries reliability.
When I ordered, the 920CPU wasn't available, so I got the 930, and lucked into a 3.8 OC. But justin says the 920's will more consistenly OC better, so you might consider that. Good hunting. Ouch
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 3:41am
ok time out, why are you going with a 5870, for your res that is pointelss, also you need to change your psu to corsair, but don't do it with ram, no point.

the rest looks good.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 3:57am
Originally posted by scifi4ams

ok here is my $2300 build.  A few questions.
I can up my budget to $2500 if I can get equipment that will give me a performance boost.
 
Will I benefit  going w/ the corsair dominator memory
Everyone says the Nactua D14 is better than the asetek 240mm but it is so huge  and I hear it will raise the case temps and I was excited to hear i could get LC that required no maintenance.
Also I am still tossed between the 5870 and the 480 for gpu
 
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On that build you have two DVD/R's selected, not sure if that was intentional. I would select the Corsair 750w over the generic DS one, it's only a few dollars more and for better quality. As for the 5870 vs the 480, I would just start looking up benchmarks from various sites on the two and pick based on FPS scores in games you are interested in at the resolution and graphic detail settings you want, and factoring in that the 480 costs more and has a bigger power requirement (750w would not be enough to run two of them in SLI).

If you can manage another $200 or so for the budget I would say by far the biggest performance increase you could get is to get a SSD for OS/apps/games. I would recommend the Intel 80GB SSD, vastly superior to the Nova line.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 9:14am

Sorry I meant to use the 1000w corsair.  The new cost is $2469.  I want the option to upgrade to CF or SLI. 

How much of a performance difference is the 5850 from the 5870.
I picked 2 dvd/r because I want 2 disk drives and did not see a cheaper option
I wish I had the budget for SSD but 40g and 80g I feel is too small.
 
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 10:42am
Originally posted by scifi4ams

I wish I had the budget for SSD but 40g and 80g I feel is too small.

It's enough for at least the OS and most of your important applications, possibly even some games. OS/apps get the biggest benefit, you will have a noticeably more responsive and snappy/instant experience. Games benefit as well, some much more than others, but in general since you're usually playing the game out of memory and loading screens are not too frequent the improvements are not as pronounced. Games on a SSD is probably venturing more into the luxury side of things.

So basically, when you're on a budget you just use a smaller fast SSD for OS/apps and standard 500MB or 1TB HDD for everything else, games, unimportant/infrequently used apps, and mass storage.

The more time you spend using a computer daily the more you benefit from using a SSD, and I stand by the idea that anyone who has ever experienced using OS/apps on a good SSD will never go back to not using one, but in the end though SSDs are not required and you can get by without them if you're on an extreme budget. If nothing less just put it at the top of the list for future upgrades and get one once funds allow and you find one for a good deal at an e-tailer.
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  Quote scifi4ams Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 11:47am
If your hd's are the same hd1 and hd2 and no raid involved, is there any performance difference when instaling games on hd2 when os is on hd1?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by scifi4ams

If your hd's are the same hd1 and hd2 and no raid involved, is there any performance difference when instaling games on hd2 when os is on hd1?

Maybe some small discrete fashion, since they can be used in parallel if you are doing different things on both the HDDs at the same time, but I don't think you want to be extensive multitasking while playing games.

And I should note that even the RAID performance benefits on mechanical HDDs are so dismal compared to SSDs that I could not bother with RAID on a mechanical HDD for any reason other than data redundancy these days, just get a SSD if you want performance and a large HDD for everything else.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 May 2010 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by scifi4ams

Sorry I meant to use the 1000w corsair.  The new cost is $2469.  I want the option to upgrade to CF or SLI. 


How much of a performance difference is the 5850 from the 5870.

I picked 2 dvd/r because I want 2 disk drives and did not see a cheaper option

I wish I had the budget for SSD but 40g and 80g I feel is too small.

 


good then go with 1000w corsair.

the difference between 5850 and 5870 depends on your resolution and the games you play, as long as you are getting between 50 to 60 fps it does not matter, for 1600 x 1200 res all you need to achive that in most games is a 5850 or better yet 470.

whatever your HDD1 is, you have to make sure it does not get more then 50% full otherwise you will start to see performance drop.

Originally posted by scifi4ams

If your hd's are the same hd1 and hd2 and no raid involved, is there any performance difference when installing games on hd2 when os is on hd1?


no if both hdds are fast HDDs then you can install games on the second drive and enjoy the same speeds pretty much.
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