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    Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 4:38pm
I am past  due for a new computer, I thought the one I am using was 4 years old but I just looked at the certificate of ownership that Digital Storm sent with this one I'm Using and I ordered it September 2010. I guess that says much about the quality and value you get with a DS system. It has been flawless but I'm ready to upgrade. First off I am not a gamer, just a surfer, I don't store large amounts of anything but I like to do what I do with good quality fast equipment but not break the bank. I have configured what I think is a machine that will suit my needs so I'm looking for some feedback
Specifications: 
Chassis Model: Digital Storm VANQUISH 7 <br><strong></strong>
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X (8-Core) (Boost Up to 4.0 GHz)
Motherboard: MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON (AMD X370 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) <br><strong></strong>
System Memory: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Digital Storm Performance Series <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 G) (Fully Modular)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (256GB Samsung 950 PRO) (NVM Express) (Extreme Performance) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: - No Thanks <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1050 2GB <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) <br><strong></strong>
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Corsair HD Series (RGB Fans) <br><strong></strong>
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) <br><strong></strong>
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit Edition) <br><strong></strong>
Recovery Tools: Windows 10 Installation CD Only (Clean Install with No Drivers)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 20-25 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 4:49pm
960 is the newer better version.

Change cpu cooler to air cooler

Does amd have turbo boost?

You don't need the extra fans fyi but if like them then that is cool
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  Quote msizelove Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 4:53pm
I can change the SSD, thanks for the tip. Why the air cooler though? Yes it does have the boost and I like lots of lighting, dresses up my corner of the room.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 5:04pm
Because air cooling last a long time, liquid cooling might need replacing early and life is limited, no reason to deal with all that if you don't need/have the stress

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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 8:16pm
Hi, msizelove, welcome back to DS! I have a DS vintage May 2010 that I'm upgrading from, too.

From what I've read, it seems to me the Ryzen 7 1700 or 1700X might be an alternative to think about. That 1800X is a beast that you may not ever stretch with your use. Just a thought.

Also, the whole AMD alternative is pretty new here, and I'm not sure DST4ME is aware there's no upgraded air option for that line. He's absolutely right about the advantages of air cooling, but I've never seen stock air recommended on these forums before. Just sayin'.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 9:12pm
Don't they use the Wraith cooler for amd? For surfing the cpu is never stressed enough to get warm.

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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 9:21pm
Doesn't show up in the configurator. Only stock fan.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 9:26pm
Stock fan for amd is the Wraith, that is a picture of it
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 10:29pm
Learn something new every day. Thanks.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 10:42pm



Actually that reminds me

@msizelove ask them for the" Wraith Max" with 2 fans.

Edited by DST4ME - 18 Dec 2017 at 10:46pm
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  Quote msizelove Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 5:26pm
Thanks for the info guys, I really agonize over builds before I pull the trigger, the old one I think I spent 3 months or better before deciding but guess I did well as I'm typing this on it. Anyway I have been playing around with the intel builds as well, so what does this one look like to you. I know before you tell me that I am buying more processor than I will ever need but that is my nature, I prefer to idle and have lots to spa
Specifications: 
Chassis Model: Digital Storm VANQUISH 7 <br><strong></strong>
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7-8700K (6-Core) 3.70GHz
Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-H GAMING (Intel Z370 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) <br><strong></strong>
System Memory: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Digital Storm Performance Series <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 G) (Fully Modular)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: External USB - DVD/CD 8x Multi-Drive (Writes and Reads DVDs, CDs) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 960 EVO) (NVM Express) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: - No Thanks <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 1: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Corsair HD Series (RGB Fans) <br><strong></strong>
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) <br><strong></strong>
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores <br><strong></strong>
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <br><strong></strong>
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows 10 Installation CD Only (Clean Install with No Drivers)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 20-25 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 6:37pm
Actually if you want a pc that feels powerful to you 6 years from now i would recommend the 8700k.

Drop the oc and go with turbo boost and highest air cooler.

Drop oc from gpu also.

I got the 1050 ti for a family member who only surfs/watches videos and it is way more then what they need, no oc and they love it.

Go with 960 pro for best quality.

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  Quote msizelove Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 7:19pm
I dropped the overclocks and will give the processor a mild one myself just because. Went to air but I'm not real proud of their options for that, what I have on this one is the Coolermaster V6 GT and it is great. Went up to the 960 Pro and I think this is pretty solid build. Getting cold feet with the Ryzen, just doesn't have the track record. Thanks for the advice, gonna sleep on and likely pull the trigger tomorrow.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 7:31pm
Trust me the turbo boost is great on 8700k, you won't need to oc it yourself, unless you really want to

If you are up to it, get the base air cooler and drop a noctua in it yourself, but again IMHO for your use (surfing) i don't see need for it.

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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 8:49am
That cooler is actually Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, I believe. It's been around awhile, but it's always gotten high marks, and compared well with many all-in-one liquid coolers. The multiple copper pipes make direct contact with the heat spreader under that base. Maximum PC magazine's favorite for price/performance for a long time. So, better than it looks.

Very nice build for you BTW.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 3:18pm
It is good why I told him to go for it, but if he wants higher oc then lc is best way to go, otherwise noctua is king. Forget maximum pc and places like that, take all of reviews from sites like that with a big grain of salt. Always look at credible sites's (multiple sites) benchmark and come to your own results based on concensus of those results and your own experiences.

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  Quote msizelove Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 5:01pm
I have looked at pretty much everything and everyone. Matter of fact Cyberpower is located 10 blocks from where I work so I called them and they told me sure come on over and pick out what I want and they would build it that day or the next and I could pick it up. That was a red flag as obviously no one checks to see if components play nice with each other and testing is plug it in and see if it runs. Not what I want, I can do that. My existing DS computer has been flawless but I truly cannot comment on their customer service as I have never needed it. But  that is how I like it so here I am again.Strong
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 6:23pm
Well my pc had plenty of problems lol, and DS has made me happy every time so that is why I am here, to be honest you got lucky, PC parts are very finicky, somethings go bad sometime, you are lucky.

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  Quote msizelove Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Dec 2017 at 8:21pm
DroolingI just pulled the trigger and ordered the intel build with just a couple minor changes that you guys recommended. I really wish microsoft would have stopped with windows 7 because how could they improve on that, now I have to learn 10. Anyway now the hard part---waiting. Thanks for your suggestions.
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Congrats Let the torture begin


Win10 is just like 7 with minor changes, also easier to move os now

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Congrats.   

I didn’t find any learning curve associated with Win 10.
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Congratulations.Awesome  W10 will be around for a long time. Not hard at all. Good luck. Big%20Smile
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Congrats. Mine shipped Fri!

I feel you with the os switch, but the encouragement here has me settled. Long as I can find a game to click on, it'll be fine!
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  Quote msizelove Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 11:00am
I've been thinking about upgrading my monitor, I had intended to use the 27" Asus that i have but I want to go to a 32". I have looked at literally everything and am having a really hard time deciding ( I feel like a woman), But am just about to zero in on the Samsung S32D850T. The specs on the video card says it will support the 2560x1440 resolution but I guess I'm looking for reassurance or maybe a suggestion for something else. Any Thoughts?Confused
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If you went with that 1050 card, I'd wait to get an opinion on whether that card can drive that many pixels even with your relatively undemanding use. I'm just reminding everyone that you're not gaming.

Oh, the good news is that Samsung makes its own panels, so quality control is all on them.

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It is not about monitor size it is about resolution.

At 1440p a 1050 is going to have issues you need to turn settings down for games and see how it does.

Otherwise you can go 4k with 1050 if not gaming and you are not gaming so you are good

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Before you get that samsung i ask you to look at dell ultrasharp IPS panels.

A good IPS is where you want to be, va is not as good.

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An Ips is what I want but Im a bit lost on this. I have looked at literally almost everything but all seem to have something positive as well as bad. It would be great to see them working then the choice would be easy. Looked at Phillips, Veiwsonic, LG , BenQ, as well as others. Been back and forth on resolution as well. One thing for sure is a dealbreaker is not having the 3 year warranty. I would prefer a glossy screen rather than a matte. I know the VA is a compromise between the TN and the IPS but is it that much worse?
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Ips is king for your use the dell ultrasharp is great, i have a few and love them but because they are great they little pricey, check them out and take reviews with a grain of salt, ask us ips owners here.
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IPS for the win here also.     Have a Dell UltraSharp and love it.    There are a ton of screens to pick from.   For me, ips first, then 1440p at 144hz for next monitor.

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Have both Asus PG278QR (tn) and PG279Q (ips). the 279 is much better visually. Love it. Have not noticed any lag or bleed but I'm no pro.  Big%20Smile
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Yeah me. Just got the stage 4 and stage 5 emails.If lucky my rig will get here late next week. Decided finally to go with the Asus VA32AQ monitor. No matter what I looked at there were tradeoffs and this finally was the one that best suited my needs and was in the range I am willing to spend.


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Congrats but there are no trade offs, as ips owners that is what we tried to tell you.


Better pray to the shipping gods

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Congrats. Nice upgrade all around!
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I also wanted IPS as that is what i am currently using, but the Samsung I was considering was rated very high even though it was a VA. Just one more question: is usb3 backward compatible? I was looking at the motherboard online and it only has a couple usb2 sockets in the back of the case and I need 3 to hook up my keyboard, mouse and printer. Yes I'm old school and the tower is at my right elbow so I see no reason to go wireless with those things.
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