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Post Date: 2023-05-12

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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: 2nd rig , trying to go big
    Posted: 12 May 2023 at 5:15pm
Budget:
[Around 5-6k]

Expectations:
[Ability to run games at 2k on an ultrawide monitor]

Usage:
[Gaming , basic usage]

Special Needs:
[I'm not sure if I need the 13900, but I want something fast. I prefer air cool but I'm willing to try water. 64gig of ram is overkill I know, but I'd like the overhead for stuff. 4090 helps with VR too.]

Item 1 --- Digital Storm Velox (Config # 4683810)
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$5,240.00
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Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox

Core Components
Processor: Intel Core i9-13900K (5.7 GHz Turbo) (32-Thread) (24-Core) 3.0 GHz (Raptor Lake)
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5 (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z790 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI) (DDR5)
System Memory: 64GB DDR5 5200MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold)


Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)

Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (4TB Samsung 870 EVO)

Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4090 24GB (VR Ready)

Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio

Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Triple Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - White - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables)

Chassis Fans: Cooler Master MasterFan Halo (RGB Fans) (Remote Control Only)

Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)

Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology
Boost Processor: Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking

Software
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows)

Accessories / Goodies

Customer Care
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote fwfdfireman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2023 at 5:59pm
I am running a 34" curved 2k monitor and my system is a tad over two years old. Haven't run into a game that this rig can't handle.

Running an Intel I-10850 stock, 32 Gigs of Ram, an Asus Tuff Gaming RTX 3080 in a Velox case (best air flow) with a 240 AIO.

I know the config guru's are going to spec you down from where you are at and save you some moolah! But.... it's your money and PC, get what you want. Best of luck to you.
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  Quote Hort Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2023 at 12:19pm
I just got mine in similar spec and price range. Went with the 13900 and the 4090 too - driving an Alienware Ultrawide and I'm happy as a clam. Lickity split fast and ability to multitask to my heart's content. This morning I had Adobe Illustrator, Lightroom, PS, and InDesign all open along with a live streaming video... and everything was seamless and smooth. I'll give the 13900 credit for much of that.

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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2023 at 3:25pm
I'm rocking the alienware too. I do music work as well DJ etc. I'll prob turn my 27 inch sideways for my 2nd monitor. How much ram did you get Hort?
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2023 at 11:14pm
Just a few comments:

• You mentioned that you would prefer air cooling. In that case, get the Noctua DH-15. It's simpler than liquid cooling, and performs just as well. I have the DH-15S in my Velox system, and I never see temperatures above 70C.

• You should upgrade to the Samsung 980 Pro for your first SSD. It only costs about $85 more than what you selected, and it has double the performance.

• You are correct that you don't need 64 GB. I would recommend downgrading to 32 GB. However, 64 GB could come in handy if you have some non-gaming needs like Photoshop, Premiere, or After Effects.

Whatever you decide to do, this sounds like a lovely system. I'm running an LG 38" Ultrawide with a resolution of 3840 x 1600, and I also have an RTX 4090. It's an amazing combination!
Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME
RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2023 at 2:36am
I agree with JamesAstro on all counts but one. The 4090 is is a waste of your money for 2K gaming. It just is. save the $500 bucks, you'll never see the difference.    
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2023 at 8:23am
Can the 13900 run of a DH15? I had 14 in my old system from DS and it was fantastic.
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2023 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by Cretae

I agree with JamesAstro on all counts but one. The 4090 is is a waste of your money for 2K gaming. It just is. save the $500 bucks, you'll never see the difference.    


You definitely don't "need" the 4090 for 2K gaming, but if you really want to max everything out with ray tracing, all settings on ultra, DLSS disabled for playing at native resolution, and get a consistently high frame rate above 100 FPS, then a 4090 helps a lot.

Probably the only games that need a 4090 at this point are Portal RTX and CyberPunk. I was shocked to discover that my 4090 only gets 65 FPS on Portal RTX played on Ultra, and 84 FPS on Low. My old 3090 got 25 FPS on Ultra.

That being said, the main reason I wanted the 4090 was for some future proofing. I'm hoping I won't need to buy another card for 3 years, and 5K ultrawide monitors are coming.

:)

Edited by JamesAstro - 14 May 2023 at 5:11pm
Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME
RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2023 at 7:26pm
I'd really like to push VR frames too. I think the 4090 would help a ton with that.
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  Quote Hort Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 May 2023 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by TechniKal

I'm rocking the alienware too. I do music work as well DJ etc. I'll prob turn my 27 inch sideways for my 2nd monitor. How much ram did you get Hort?


32 - so far no issues, like I said, with a lot running. I have yet to, and will pretty rarely be rendering video... but 32 is working fine.The minimum requirement in Premier Pro is suggested to be 64mb to render in 4K - but I've no need.
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 May 2023 at 7:26pm
They don't OC the 13900 right?
What about RAM?

Edited by TechniKal - 16 May 2023 at 8:18pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 May 2023 at 1:21am
The 13900 is expensive and heat generating overkill. the 13700KF is all the step-up you could ever come close to using in a gaming rig.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-13900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-13700KF/4129vsm1925886

The benchmark emphasizes gaming use. That's $272 for a 2% bump and threads and cores you will never use. Double(!) the power draw for 2% gain as well.

32 GB of RAM is way more than you will use very often, and much more than that you will NEVER use. If I'm wrong five years down the road, get more. Don't pay over $150 for something that will just sit there for most, if not all of the life of your system.
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 May 2023 at 11:05am
Previously I said:

"I was shocked to discover that my 4090 only gets 65 FPS on Portal RTX played on Ultra"

Well, I updated my NVIDIA drivers that were about 2 months old, and now Portal RTX is getting about 105 FPS with Ultra settings while running on the 4090. Sweet!
Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME
RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 May 2023 at 4:52pm
Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox

Core Components
Processor: Intel Core i7-13700KF (5.4 GHz Turbo) (24-Thread) (16-Core) 3.4 GHz (Raptor Lake)
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5 (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z790 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI) (DDR5)

System Memory: 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB

Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold)


Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)

Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4090 24GB (VR Ready)

Sound Card: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus


Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black (Extreme Performance)

HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - White - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables)

Chassis Fans: Cooler Master MasterFan Halo (RGB Fans) (Remote Control Only)

Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)

Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology
Boost Processor: Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking

Software
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows)

Accessories / Goodies

Customer Care
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

How's this looking? Not sure the 13700 can take advantage of those ram timings?
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 May 2023 at 5:00pm
I'm not an expert on CPU choices. Everything else looks pretty good, but I have some questions:

• You mentioned "going big." However, you're only getting a 500GB SSD. Are you sure that will be enough? I don't have a ton of games on my machine, but I would never get less than 1TB.

• What is your motivation for getting the Sound Blaster? The built-in audio is pretty darn good these days. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.)
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RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 May 2023 at 6:14pm
I dj so having the extras help a ton. Someone said for the 980 evo?

If budget wasn't a thing , should I go 13900? What 1tb NVME should I go?
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 May 2023 at 9:38pm
The Samsung 980 Pro is likely the best and fastest 1TB NVME.
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2023 at 11:18am
Okay so this is what I'm thinking. I keep looking into things and I keep changing haha.

Item 1 --- Digital Storm (Config # 4688072)
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$5,172.00
$5,172.00
Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox

Core Components
Processor: Intel Core i7-13700KF (5.4 GHz Turbo) (24-Thread) (16-Core) 3.4 GHz (Raptor Lake)
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5 (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z790 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI) (DDR5)

System Memory: 32GB DDR5 5200MHz Kingston FURY Beast
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold)


Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)

Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4090 24GB (VR Ready)

Sound Card: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus


Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux PRO: Exotic Custom Cooling System (CPU Only)

HydroLux Tubing Style: Flexible Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)

HydroLux Fluid Color: White Flexible Tubing + Clear Fluid (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)

Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - White - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables)

Chassis Fans: Cooler Master MasterFan Halo (RGB Fans) (Remote Control Only)

Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)

Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology
Boost Processor: Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking

Software
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows)

Accessories / Goodies

Customer Care
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 May 2023 at 1:27am
It's fine for what you want to do.   
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 May 2023 at 2:14pm
I would skip the Sound Blaster card unless you are doing some kind of professional audio.
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RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 May 2023 at 6:47pm
He said he's a DJ.   
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  Quote TechniKal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 May 2023 at 6:16am
Yes sir
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