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    Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 1:42pm
I know it's been asked a million times already, but I noticed my i7-920 is 4 years old soon, and I have the itch to upgrade. There is so much advice on z77 vs. x79, and the longevity of the cpu's in each, and gaming vs. other stuff.

Here's my general story:

Budget - Not a huge concern, but still want to feel some value for the money (3970x is out for example)

Usage - Gaming and general business (IE no major processing outside of games and general multitasking)

Monitors - single for now, but eventually expect to go dual set-up. I can't see going triple, but might be good to leave option open.

Other - I'm generally an enthusiast, so I will pay a bit extra for overclockability.

Rest of the System - pretty set on the basics (240GB SSD, 16 GB Ram, etc.), but still pondering how high to go on the video cards. I'm still debating Dual GTX670, 680 or single 690. I've been SLI a few times in the past, and I seem to run into issues, so I like the idea of just one card. IE, I'm willing to take some risks on the cpu, but I want rock solid stability otherwise.

Well, that's my story. What do you think
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690 = bad idea.

Rule number one for getting value for money is get what you need without waste. In order to do that for example with gpus, what you get depends on what you need, what you need depends on what your monitor's native res is for gaming.

if you have budget and want a pc with most options and most future power go x79 otherwise z77 is just fine.

as for what gpu to get, tell us your res and what games you mainly play and we can tell you what you need/get.

16Gb of ram for just gaming and general multi-task is too much IMHO.

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Hi MrFC1000..   Welcome to the forums.

Here's a build to check out.   You don't need the X79 with either 3830 or 3930k chip for gaming.     The Z77 will be great.    I did put in sli gtx 670 for a potential dual monitor and the 670 is very close to the 680 for less.

Config #   785745        Cost $ 2652

The HafX case is the best for air cooled and the Noctua D14 is tops in cooling and quiet and very reliable.

Can't cut/paste right now.      

You don't need 16gb ram but I put it in because its cheap.

Hope this helps.


DST4ME beat me to it.


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bp22 build looks nice but a few questions, why not the 1000w corsair? it has better quality and longer warranty.

and why the samsung ssd?

and the stage 2 oc, what kinda of vcore are they ending up with here?

other than that, I like the build nice one

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Hi MrFC1000 and welcome to the forums,
 
The big difference between the z77 chipset and the x79 is dual chanel memory (z77) vs quad chanel memory (x79).  Games today do not need the extra memory bandwidth that is available in a x79 system.  Where the x79 chipset shines is in video editing and rendering that takes advantage of the extra memory bandwidth.  So for gaming and general business the i7 3770k is all you will need.
 
If you plan on going to dual monitors then I would suggest a dual SLI graphics setup.  Most games today do support SLI put there are still some that don't.  If you play one of those you would need to disable the SLI. 
 
A single GTX 690 is not a single card.  It is really 2 GTX 680's (slighly detuned) on the same card.  It is still runs in SLI.
 
Here is a link where you can compare different GPUs to each other at different resolutions and in different games.  I have it set to compare a GTX 670 to a GTX 680 but you can put in any 2 cards.
 
I have put together 2 builds, one liquid cooled the other air cooled.
 
Full Liquid Cooling Ticket # 785749  Price $ 4025
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards & Chipset
H20 Tube Color:Blue Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: FREE NVIDIA Bundle - Assassins Creed III (Digital Download Code for all GeForce GTX 600 Series)
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
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Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

In the above build I even have the chipset liquid cooled.  If you just do the CPU and GPUs you can save 150 off the price above.
 
Full air cooling with the same equipment.  Ticket # 785783  Price $ 3027
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: FREE NVIDIA Bundle - Assassins Creed III (Digital Download Code for all GeForce GTX 600 Series)
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
The 1st build is from Black Ops Hailstorm and the 2nd is from Special Ops Dreadnaught.
 
I hope this helps


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I think stage 2 oc is too high and not needed and I bet with that kind of oc you are getting high vcores.

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The 800 w can handle the sli gtx 670 but if in the budget thd 1050hx is better with more headroom and 7 year warrsnty as opposed to 5 year with 800w.   

I don't get into SSD, they're all good to me.    Others that check out drives can give stats on them.   

The difference in performance between stage1 and 2 is minimal but is relatively cheap.







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The i5 3570k/i7 3770k CPUs overclock at a lot lower vcore than previous CPUs.  I have a i5 3570k OCed to 4.5GHz and the vcore runs at 1.264-1.280 volts.
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The 800w has a 3 year warranty from corsair. tho 800w can handle sli 670 with a oc on cpu you gonna want a bit more headroom IMHO.

All ssds are not the same, its been a while since I checked but I think intel and if corsair has a good record here and corsair also would be good ones.

what is your vreg on your stage 2 oc?

@Asangard if its max at 1.2 under-load that is not bad then.

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Wow, love the help in here

Okay, it seems unanimous to go Z77 instead of x79 for my needs - which is fine. A few more q's:

Mobo - Does it make sense to up this to the Asus Deluxe? Sabertooth doesn't appear to have WiFi nor Bluetooth.

Cooling - Why not the Vortex or Corsair H20 cooling?

690 - Doesn't it run as 2 680's in SLI, but without the rest of the system seeing it that way? I had read it just seems to have less issues than normal SLI.
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both air and lc cooling mentioned here are better than vortex.

690 = bad idea, all dual gpu cards are bad idea, they run hotter and have less performance then dual sli in 2 separate cards.

what res you gonna be gaming at?

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Hum, I am using the ASUS Z77 Sabertooth motherboard and HW Monitor isn't showing the vreg temp.  I never noticed that before.  The 4 core temps range from 57c to 67c under full load (prime95) then there is a "package temp" of 72c.
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to see your vreg (not temp) you want to run cpu-z

hw is good for gpu and core temps, other stuff I dont trust it much.

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Nothing under cpu-z for voltage regulator just the core voltage I listed above. Core speed 4.5GHz, multiplier x45, Buss speed 100.0MHz, core Voltage 1.264 - 1.280 volts.
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Ya you are correct, I didn't edit my post cause you were correct, vcore is in cpu-z, vreg is in hw, but I don't pay much attention to vreg cause those temps are not exact.

nice vcore with that oc btw

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Thank DS for that as they are the one that OCed it.
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Hmmmm, I had been thinking air-cooled or sealed H20, but I am intriuged by the aesthetics and fairly low cost of the Frost Chill System. How good is DS's system? Do you need to go 240mm radiator?
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Again its about what we need, as mentioned by Asangard, he has a oc of 4.5Ghz which is a great speed and more then needed if you ask me, but if the cpu is running at a good load speed and vcore is low, then why not, there is no harm being done, just performance being gained.

So what I'm saying is that all you need is the noctua, or if you have your heart set on lc then you need to decide if you want lc performance and looks or just lc looks but noctua/h100i performance.

if you want just looks then go frostchill

if you want performance and looks then go Sub-Zero

A lc system is only as good as it's parts, mainly block/rad (assuming other parts are good, which in this case they are), subzero has better block I belive, not sure if the rad is the same or not, but you will get better load temps with subzero then you will with anything below it.

ofcourse you can always go extreme if you have a lot like my pc (click on my sig), and get cutstom rads/parts and bigger rads if needed.

You don't need to go 240mm rad, but bigger rad is always better then its smaller brother. Of course all rads are not the same so one small rad could do as well as one dual rad that is not that great.

xspc "rx" rads are great ones and I think DS still uses them, you can always request to be sure.

Hope that helps.

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If you go the frost chill root for the CPU only I would stay with the HAF X case as the rest oc the components would still be air cooled.
 
Also for stage 1 OC the frost chill with the 120mm radiator would do fine but for stage 2 OC I would go with the 240mm radiator.
 
The same goes for the Vortex/Corsair sealed units.  120mm radiator for Stage 1 OC and 240mm radiator for stage 2 OC.
 
For air cooling the Noctua NH-D14 handles stage 2 OC very nicely.
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frostchill gives around the same performance as noctua (due to inferior block and rad), IMHO subzero is best option for money, it has a better block and radiator, its not the size of the rad (don't get me wrong its help a lot), its more the better block and rad of the subzero giving one best load temps.

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Here is a possible build based on the feedback.


Ticket Number: 785890
Total Price with Instant Savings: $3,574.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=785890

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Higher Overclocks and Unique Wi-Fi Features)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Red) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
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For the hailstorm you want 140mm led fans, the ones from DS I believe are 120mm fans and a bit loud.

either order and have below fans shipped to DS or see if they will do it for you.

for the case itself you gonna want 140mm fans, for the lc you can get the 120mm fans, here you go:

140mm orange(more like red tho)



these are the 140mm on my hailstorm that you see in my sig

the rest looks good.

IMHO you should ask DS to modify your side window and add four of the mentioned red 140mm fans on it, this will give you great airflow for gpus and etc and and your cpu with subzero is gonna be sitting pretty itself.

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I agree with DST4ME if yo go with the Hailstorm case you need to have side intake fans mounted.  The extra fans will add to the noise level though.
 
If you go with the HAF X case no additional fans will be needed as it comes with a front 230mm (Red LED) intake fan, a side 200mm intake fan that blows directly on the graphics cards and a back 140mm exhaust fan.  The top 200mm exhaust fan will be replaced by the 240mm Radiator that comes with the Sage 4 CPU cooling package.
 
You can make the Hailstorm case work with air but you really do need to add the extra fans to keep the rest of the parts cool.
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.... wow. Its DST. You are like.. a Digital Storm legend.

I looked at your PC 1000 times when making the Black Sheep PC.


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@ xii, thank you, the Black Sheep is a very nice beast , and to be honest I wouldn't say a DS legend, more like a DS spammer

@Asangard, the 140mm fans I mentioned won't be loud, I have a different older versions that you see on my pc, and they are not loud, thats one great thing about good 140mm fans, since they are bigger they move more air and don't need to spin as fast as a 120mm so they are not as loud or loud, but I'm sure you already know this yourself, I say it for the benefit of others that don't.

but ya if you look at my old posts, I'm a big fan of haf x case with the extra 200mm fan on top, it has great airflow.

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Okay, here is the latest and greatest :


Build 787785

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Higher Overclocks and Unique Wi-Fi Features)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (256GB Solid State (By: Samsung) (Model: 840 Pro Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: FREE NVIDIA Bundle - Assassins Creed III (Digital Download Code for all GeForce GTX 600 Series)
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty


Went with:
Samsung 840 SSD - latest reviews call it the fastest
Dual GTX670's - probably as much as I will need for a long time - great value
Noctua Air Cooling - If it can get me to 4.5+Ghz...
Haf X case - Seems to be the right choice if using air.

It's at the low end of my budget (3-4k), but seems to hit a swwet spot of price/value at the high end IMO. Thoughts?
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Oh, also, at what resolution do do 4GB GTX cards make sense?
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Originally posted by MrFC1000

Oh, also, at what resolution do do 4GB GTX cards make sense?


The higher amount of vram is needed for higher resolutions for certain games, as tju76 mentioned some games will benefit from the extra vram at that res.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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I just placed my order.      

I went with the Stage 4 Liquid Cooling option instead of air. I wanted to go all out to Stage 6 and hit the video cards, but it was getting hard to justify the additional almost $400 to do so. I also wasn't sure if the HAF X was the best for this build, but it seemed fine.

System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Higher Overclocks and Unique Wi-Fi Features)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (256GB Solid State (By: Samsung) (Model: 840 Pro Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color: Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: FREE NVIDIA Bundle - Assassins Creed III (Digital Download Code for all GeForce GTX 600 Series)
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Let me know your thoughts! And thanks for all the help.
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Congrats on your build.  AwesomeYou are still air cooling the rest of your components so the HAF X case is still a great choice.  Big%20Smile
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Great choices, having the gpus air cooled makes upgrades easier and cheaper.

Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans:

haf 200mm non led fan

if you want you can pay more and change all the big fans to 200mm red led fans.




Edited by DST4ME - 17 Feb 2013 at 5:18pm

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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Thanks for all the help. The DS community, along with DS support and build quality is why I went with DS in the first place.

I'll send them an e-mail on the fans - good idea.

A few minor choices I made:
- Deluxe ASUS mobo - didnt want to hassle with Wifi and Bluetooth.
- Win 8 Pro - I'm already running it on other pc's, so stuck with it.

One last question - should I have gone with the chipset liquid cooling in addition to the cpu? I've been out of this a few years - I thought the unlocked cpu allowed cpu OC without further stressing the chipset.
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No need to LC the chipset.

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I just remembered seeing a post somewhere in these forums about asking DS to add something I am not remembering at the moment (an in-line release valve?) to the Sub-Zero system for easier flushing down the line. Can anyone elaborate on this, or if it's a decent/necessary idea?

Thx
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