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    Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 9:12am
Budget:
$4000 - $6000

Expectations:
Need a PC for 3D modeling in SketchUp and rendering in V-Ray (and possibly Lumion in the future)

Usage:
3D modeling and rendering

Special Needs:
I waste a tremendous amount of time waiting for my computer while trying to navigate around inside a 3D model and waiting for draft renders to generate just to check my progress. I'd really like a build that can keep up with me and not waste so much time waiting.

Saved Ticket #: 3861973

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This is what I put together so far. It's more than I wanted to spend, but I don't want to cheap out and still be frustrated all the time... any feedback is greatly appreciated!!

Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Engineer Workstation
Core Components
Processor: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X (32-Core) (Boost Up to 4.5 GHz)
Motherboard: ASUS Prime TRX40-Pro S (AMD TRX40 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (ECC Support)
System Memory: 64GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 970 EVO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 860 EVO)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB (Performance Edition) (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 7:20pm
I'll be making a suggestion based on these (quoted text are chosen highlights):

SketchUp Hardware and Software Requirements

Building the Best PC for SketchUp (2021 Guide)
Buying a high-end, high-core-count processor for a SketchUp workstation is like installing trim with a sledgehammer; it’s rarely a good idea.

CPU Recommendations for SketchUp
AMD:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

Depending on your use case, you’ll either be fine with a modest GPU for the sake of viewport performance, or you’ll need a rendering workhorse.

As we explored above, Trimble hasn’t published much information about SketchUp’s day-to-day GPU demands, but we do know that most of the 3rd party rendering engines can take full advantage of the hardware you have.

For offline rendering, SketchUp supports a wide range of bridges and plugins, two highlights being the VRAY and Brighter3D plugins.

For the former, you can use CPU, GPU, or hybrid rendering, with support for Nvidia RTX, distributed rendering, and cloud-based rendering.


V-Ray and SketchUp GPU Rendering

Which graphics card do you need for Lumion 11?

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Config/Ticket # 3862733

Digital Storm Velox

Core Components
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (16-Core) 4.9 GHz Turbo (BACKORDER ETA MAY)
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P / MSI X570-A Pro (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support)
System Memory: 64GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold)

Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 970 EVO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 860 PRO)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (Performance Edition) (VR Ready)

Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)

Software
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit)

Basically, the Ryzen 9 5950X has lots of cores and can handle plenty of threads and the highest boost clock of Ryzen CPUs. Paired with the RTX 3080, you can render on either CPU or GPU fairly well; or in the case of V-Ray, apparently, hybrid (both simultaneously).

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  Quote ealderson Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 6:35am
I know there are a lot of variables here and there may be specialized tests that are more applicable to what you are doing, but in case it helps with your decision process my 5950x/3080 combo gets around a 25000 to 26000 Cinebench score.
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  Quote sbrasher Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 6:13am
Thank you for the suggestions, Mr Cheetah! So you think this build will give me performance in both SketchUp and V-Ray?

Unfortunately, I can't pull up the build you put together with the config ticket number you posted. Could you check and see if it's the right number? Thank you!!
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:20am
Originally posted by sbrasher

Thank you for the suggestions, Mr Cheetah! So you think this build will give me performance in both SketchUp and V-Ray?

Yes, according to the requirements and recommendations I was able to dig up.
Originally posted by sbrasher

Unfortunately, I can't pull up the build you put together with the config ticket number you posted. Could you check and see if it's the right number? Thank you!!

The number is not working for me either. I'm not sure what happened. I just recreated the config (and this one loads back to the configuration okay for me).

Config/Ticket #: 3864752

Now you should be able to review it and make whatever alterations/additions you need/want. The storage, memory, networking, etc are reflected from your initial config.
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  Quote sbrasher Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 10:05am
Great, thank you! This is even cheaper than the config I previously made, so that's a win. I appreciate your help!
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  Quote sbrasher Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 10:12am
Sorry, I have another question about the motherboard (I've never built a PC before so this is a little overwhelming for me). Do you think the ASUS PRIME X570-P / MSI X570-A Pro (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support) is a good choice? I have no idea how to choose the right one...
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:50pm
No worries, these things can be overwhelming for all of us at some point, especially because spec lists have little standard.

Anyway...

The Asus Prime X570-P or MSI X570-A Pro will handle what you currently have configured, plus some future upgrades (e.g., graphics cards into the foreseeable future, gen. 4 PCIe SSDs, etc)

If you were to move up to the Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming motherboard, for example, you get a 2.5 gigabit Ethernet (LAN) port in addition to the gigabit (LAN) port, integrated Wi-Fi 6 and BT 5, an extra full size PCIe expansion slot, and a bit more efficient power distribution for the CPU. So, there's a little quality improvement, although, many of the features come down to needs (e.g., need wireless).

Edited by MrCheetah - 14 Apr 2021 at 12:51pm
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  Quote sbrasher Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:58pm
You've been incredibly helpful and patient, thank you!
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