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    Posted: 14 Jun 2013 at 1:10pm
Budget:
<3k - I Plan to buy in the next few days.

Expectations:
Gaming machine with longevity. I plan to add a second card later. I will be adding storage later (no raid). I will be connecting to a Monitor sometimes and a television sometimes.

Usage:
Gaming of all types.

Special Needs:
I want a plain case, No lights, no bling. I want something quiet as this will be sitting in my family room, but I expect it to be a bit noisier while I'm gaming and that is OK. I'm especially concerned with cooling. I'm not sure if the noctua c9oler is better than what I have chosen. I'm also not sure what to overclock and not overclock, so I would appreciate any advice there.

Saved Ticket #: 839679 ($2,747)

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Obsidian 550D
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth Z87 (Intel Z87 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) <b></b>
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless USB 802.11n Up to 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional 5.1
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty


Edited by phenolic72 - 14 Jun 2013 at 1:15pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Jun 2013 at 3:01pm
Hi phenolic72.... That is a real nice build.     

Couple of things....... I would drop the ram to standard 1600mhz.    Unless you're running really intense ram apps the higher ram clock is not needed and might mess with overclock and just generate heat. The higher clock for gaming isnt needed.

The 550d is a nice case and very quiet.   The h100i cooler mounts under the top with its rad and two fans and requires the top acoustic panel to be left off.   Some of the quiet disappears. But it does increase airflow in the case. If you want quiet then the Vortex 120 or Hyper 212 air cooler would be the way to go.    They exhaust out the back.   The Noctua will not fit the 550d at DS.

For sli graphic cards I would go with a case with better airflow but the 550d does have mounts on side panel for added fans if needed.

Good luck.





Edited by bprat22 - 14 Jun 2013 at 3:03pm
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  Quote phenolic72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Jun 2013 at 3:48pm
@bprat22 - Thanks very much for the reply. I'm not sold on this case, but I do like the fact that it is plain. Can you recommend a case (or cases) with better airflow? I was also looking at the following system earlier, but I don't know if it is any better for airflow.

Ticket Number: 839733
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,569.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=839733

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm VIRTUE
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Gryphon Z87 (Intel Z87 Chipset) (Features Thermal Radar) (MATX)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps) <b></b>
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks <b></b>
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: - No Thanks <b></b>
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes) <b></b>
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <b></b>
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks


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  Quote Nerek387 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Jun 2013 at 7:32pm
I'd also go with either an i5 3570k or i7 3770k if your only gaming, they're much better at OC'ing. I've heard the Haswell chips aren't the best...
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 2:53am
phenolic72...... The Virtue is based on the new Corsair 350d if you want to google and check it out.    The case follows the trend of smaller cases and has very good reviews.    I would however ask DS in special optiins to add the second 140mm Corsair silent fan to the front for nice airflow.     It comes with one and has a mount for the second.   Probably $20-25 extra.

The best air flow case is the HafX for example with its side panel 200mm fan blowing air directly onto cards and mobo. Plus it can hold the larger Noctua cooler.    But, what you have will work fine.   Depends what works for your tastes.

The UV light tubes won't work with the sealed units like Vortex or h100i.   That UV interacts with stage 3 and above with true water cooling.

Not sure if the internal light strip option fits with smaller cases. If Alex sees this maybe he can chime in.

Your rig looks great.    Solid and reliable.   Good luck.

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 10:44am
Yes we can fit the internal lighting on the smaller cases.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 12:01pm
Good to hear.   
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  Quote phenolic72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 2:42pm
Thanks to everyone for your help. I'm excited about ordering this today or tomorrow unless there is an issue with this build. I have a few final questions which I have included in bold red inline below. One note, I have decided to go with the Virtue case. The HAF X is simply too big for the space I have, and the Virtua still will allow me to add another SLI card in the future. EDIT: I will also be requesting the extra case fan as bprat22 suggested.

Ticket Number: 839990
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,598.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=839990

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm VIRTUE
Processor: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Gryphon Z87 (Intel Z87 Chipset) (Features Thermal Radar) (MATX)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps) Question: Is there a difference between the Samsung and the Corsair? They are identical in price.
Internet Access: Wireless USB 802.11n Up to 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b) <b></b>
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (Includes PhysX)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) Question: is this the best cooling option in this category, or is the Noctua better?
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Question: Is it worth upgrading to the Corsair Airflow fans? Will they be cooler, quieter?
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes)
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Question: Will this result in a significant reduction in noise?
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Edited by phenolic72 - 15 Jun 2013 at 2:53pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 3:06pm
Stick with what you have.    The Corsair has an established track record, tge Noctua probably won't fit and you don't need the fan or noise upgrade.     

Change your internal light strip to a color instead of UV. The UV is for a different cooling system.


Good luck.
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  Quote phenolic72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 3:56pm
Thanks again to everyone, especially to bprat22.

I've ordered my system and am looking forward to it.
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  Quote Nomad1970 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 4:14pm
Now you wait. Big%20Smile

Great looking system.  Awesome
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32GB DDR4 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro
SSD M.2 (512GB Samsung 970 PRO)
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 5:00pm
Real nice.    

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Nice build!
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  Quote phenolic72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 12:19pm
I just wanted to update this post since I've received my machine. I am very pleased. It is very nice, very quiet, and the perfect size box for my needs. I've thrown everything that I can at it and it doesn't seem to notice. I'm particularly impressed with how quiet it is, even when I'm playing something like Bioshock Infinite.

The only disappointment I had was that the packaging had come loose inside the main box during shipping, and the machine had been beaten up a bit. The front bezel had a broken clasp and was loose from the machine. DS is sending me a new front, but not being super familiar with these types of components, I have no way of knowing whether there might be some hairline cracks (or something similar) in a PCB or other component which might cause issues down the road. As I stated, I'm very pleased, but this did take a bit of the fun out of opening the box.

One other note for anyone buying this case (Virtue) - the cabling barely fits on the side of the box where it feeds through. Because of this, the case bulges out a bit on that side at the top. This is not an issue for me, but might be for others who are more particular.

@BPrat - thanks again for all of your help and advice. I feel confident this machine will last me quite a while and you provided some really good direction.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 1:24pm
Hi phenolic72.... Sorry to hear of the damage.    Chances are your other components are good to go.    Damage to boards, etc usually show right away.   

Thanks for the update on the case.   Good to know.

It was a pleasure helping and best of luck.    Enjoy.
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by phenolic72


I just wanted to update this post since I've received my machine. I am very pleased. It is very nice, very quiet, and the perfect size box for my needs. I've thrown everything that I can at it and it doesn't seem to notice. I'm particularly impressed with how quiet it is, even when I'm playing something like Bioshock Infinite. The only disappointment I had was that the packaging had come loose inside the main box during shipping, and the machine had been beaten up a bit. The front bezel had a broken clasp and was loose from the machine. DS is sending me a new front, but not being super familiar with these types of components, I have no way of knowing whether there might be some hairline cracks (or something similar) in a PCB or other component which might cause issues down the road. As I stated, I'm very pleased, but this did take a bit of the fun out of opening the box. One other note for anyone buying this case (Virtue) - the cabling barely fits on the side of the box where it feeds through. Because of this, the case bulges out a bit on that side at the top. This is not an issue for me, but might be for others who are more particular. @BPrat - thanks again for all of your help and advice. I feel confident this machine will last me quite a while and you provided some really good direction.


If you are concerned about future issues, why not send the system back and have them inspect everything. No reason you should have to be concerned about this issue. Also, while they had it they could fix the cable routing to prevent the bending of the side panel.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 5:42pm
Sure, we're here for our customers. Feel free to contact us and/or email [email protected] and we can help you out.
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  Quote phenolic72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Jul 2013 at 8:29pm
@Alex. Thanks. From what I've been told I have little to worry about and I've received further confirmation on this forum. I've had no issues with the system and send seem pretty detailed pics to the technician and he did not seem alarmed. 
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