3rd DS comp advise needed

Budget:
less then the $4k for my 2019 DS rig (build 2711981, below)

Expectations:
to replace and last as long as my 2009 rig (yes, 11 yrs old!). Im getting BSOD. Looks like BIOS needs firmware update. Last update 2010. last available update is only 2011 - time to let this one go.

Usage:
interwebs, CIV, Fallout, maybe get back into Battlefield or other FPS. Currently using a 65' Samsung plasma for CIV / Fallout, but I'll get a faster 4k monitor (and wired keyboard, mouse, etc) if I play a FPS.

Special Needs:
cant think of any

Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 2711981     $4,095.00
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix Z390-H Gaming
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro
Power Supply: 850W Corsair RM850x (Fully Modular)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i PRO - 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler
Chassis Fans: Corsair LL Series (RGB Fans)
CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU - Up to 5.1GHz on All CPU Core

Looking to cut maybe $1k off this build. Obv switching to RTX 3080 (from 2080 TI) saves a $576, and yet the 3080 is better!?! What else would you do?

- are chassis fans OK instead of Corsair LED (-$200)
- LYNX instead of LUMOS (-$116)
- how about DS 'certified' RAM and SSD (-$??)
- stage 2 DS Vortex dual fan vs Corsair (-$90)
- stage 1 overclock (-$99)

thanks. my experience with DS rigs and the help from this community has been outstanding! Sometimes I read various discussions just to learn stuff. FYI, all I have done for my 2009 rig in 11yrs is replace RAM, video card, and get a larger SSD (orig was 80g for $500!!).

Thanks, Cretae.

Only diff between lumos and lynx is really just esthetics and size?

So for an intel build, i shld wait for Gen4 mobo next year? I assume it will say ‘gen4’ in da name? Mobos i know little about.

Samsung 860 or 970 are not gen 4, so Seagate is better performance? Will Samsung come out w gen 4?

Name brand parts = longer warranty. Makes sense when i read it now.

Chuckled when I read, “idk if 3080 is gimped by gen 3 mobo”. Maybe i can roll some Christmas $$ into build early next year. Unless the bsod gets worse then a replacement is needed sooner.

Thanks,
Me

I very much agree with fwfdfireman for the short term, but you already have a great Intel rig. So I looked at your desire for longevity and advised the newer tech. Three years from now it will probably be very significant that you are PCIe Gen 4 capable.

In the new year, a newer set of Intel CPUs are due, and they will be paired with Gen 4 boards, but the AMDs are standard now, and the new chips are coming in just days. It's believed that they will beat up Intel in the near term, and be highly competitive with the new ones "whenever" they come out.

IMHO, Seagate is the best match for a Gen 4 AMD board, but the Samsung NVMes are their equal or better because they are just about the best there is for Gen 3. Put a Firecuda in a Gen 3 board, and it won't beat a Samsung. That said, Samsung already has some Gen 4 parts I haven't really looked into yet just cuz they aren't available here, and really, who needs more than instant response we already have?

Cases are all good here. I'm not into the Bolt as the small form factor can be difficult, but they all serve well. If I had that Lumos rig of yours, and I needed another, I'd probably get a Lynx.

I had an AMD rig way back when they were the equal of Intel for about 4 years around 2000. Before that, I was Intel, and when AMD went low-end, I went back to Intel. So I'm not biased. But newer tech is what it is. AMD has come roaring back with some outstanding products that are highly competitive and more advanced in some ways than Intel has been able to match. For example, AMD CPUs are 7 nanometer, and Intel is stuck at 14. Then there's the Gen 4 rollout. I would not be embarrassed to own an AMD 5000 series when DS offers the new chips because I know these newest CPUs are so advanced for gaming that neither brand would falter for many years down the line. So powerful and capable that a few GHz either way is not worth waiting for, and IMHO, not even worth overclocking for. Not for gaming. My take.

Intel's biggest problem seems to be that they have stalled badly in reducing die size. They do all their own chip fabrication. AMD and Nvidia and others farm it out to fabrication plants that do little else, and have all their research concentrated.

Perhaps AMD snuck up on them, perhaps their push to get back into the GPU business delayed progress in die shrinking, IDK. (They are stuck on 14 nanometers for desktop CPUs, and are rolling out 10nm for laptops, but the others are buying 7nm wafers.) AMD Zen Ryzen 1000 was 14nm in 2017; Ryzen 2000 procs were 12nm; Ryzen 3000, 4000 and 5000 series out this Thursday are all 7nm. It's an important difference.

The point is, Intel isn't sitting back, they are temporarily stymied. It will all sort out eventually, but for the meantime, the new Ryzen 5000s are going to rule for awhile. What needs to be realized by us gamers is that these last couple of generations of either brand are way more powerful than anything we've ever seen while GPU advances have taken a lot of the burden off. Any CPU out now or in the near future, likely has at least a 6 year time horizon before it starts to lag, IMHO.