$4000-4500 gaming rig

Hey all! Thank you pre-emptively for your help.

As stated my budget is $4000-4500. This is for the computer itself, keyboard, mouse, and maybe for a pair of monitors to go with if the money is not better spent on the computer. Hoping you guys can tell me that.

I intend to use it mostly for online gaming, and occasionally for watching movies.

Thanks again for your help.

lol the last res i was gaming at was 1024x728, so im a bit unsure what resolution would be satisfactory.

Id like to have 2 monitors so i can multi task.

My god youre helpful!

Yes, I'd use one monitor for gaming/movies and one for browsing the internet, working and everything else.

If the computer comes to 3000, id be willing to spend 500-1000 on a nice gaming monitor. I actually already have a monitor that will work as my second.

thanks again!

so i took your build and tweaked it a little to my liking, tell me what you think.


http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=607806

Hi Daydreamer,

Welcome to the forum. I see you are a new member.

Just in case you don't know, DST4ME gave you a really solid build with top performance for a 1080 resolution monitor. I hope you pay close attention to his suggestions. You made some really bad changes that cost more money and could result in premature failure of your system. The HAF-X is a terrific case for air cooling and you don't want to muck it up with insulation and noisy fans.

Building a system is a fun and educational endeavor. I know you are going to enjoy the experience working with this forum and DS.   

Frank

Ok let me save you sometime, there is no config you can make that will make a difference in performance from mine, all you are doing now is making things worst.

one 590 is a bad idea, quad sli 590 is the worst idea and even with that you still have less vram, long story short, go back to sli 570 2.5GB.

you can go with noctua if you like the difference from a70 is like 2 to 5c at best.

change ssd to intel 320, it has faster speeds were it counts.

once again you took my $3000 system and made it cost $4100 with no noticeable performance gain.

lol instead of making the changes why don't you just ask us first, saves everybody a lot of time

Edited by DST4ME - 21 Oct 2011 at 10:45pm

looks good but you are not gonna need that much ram, its gonna be total waste.

Originally posted by DST4ME looks good but you are not gonna need that much ram, its gonna be total waste.

I took your build with a big smile DST4ME.  Ordering this week.  Thx for putting it out there!  Only thing I added was a new mouse :)

What do you think of the 6990 (single) vs the SLI 570 ?

Originally posted by DST4ME the 590/6990 both suck, any card with 2 gpus in it is a bad idea, plus they both get beat by sli/cf 570/6970, so for 6990 I rather get the cf 6970, for 590 I rather get the sli 570.

cool, just checking.  i saw the sli 580's also do great, but i assume not worth the $$ vs 570s.

Thanks for your knowledge!

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but if that configuration truly satisfies his needs to the fullest, why not opt instead for an ODE Level 3? From briefly glancing over your configuration it seems the only significant difference is a slightly better power supply... but for roughly $700 more I don't think that's exactly justified.

MOBO difference = $15

PSU difference = $100 (Again, the main difference between the two configurations, seeing as how it better "future-proofs" his system, which I completely understand and originally stated)

CPU cooling difference = $???, not much honestly, both are relatively comparable in price and resulting performance, achieving near identical overclocks as per Digital Storm's builds

Case difference = $20

HDD difference = $40

Win 7 pro difference = $75

Total difference = $250, but he'd be paying $700 for it. Personally, I just don't see myself being able to justify that much of a cost difference between the two, especially considering he could just buy an entirely new HX1050 for less than $200 when he deems it time to upgrade his GPUs in the coming years, and still have hundreds of dollars to put towards the purchase of said GPUs. Besides, the 800w can handle 570 SLI which should serve even his most demanding gaming needs, given his desired monitor size. He would likely encounter no issues maxing out Skyrim or Battlefield 3.

As for the minor differences outside of the PSU, there really won't be any significant gains of any kind resulting from your configuration and it's not as though he'll be bottlenecked by any of the slightly lesser components on the ODE Level 3 that wouldn't otherwise create problems in the future on your configuration as well.

Again, just pointing out an alternative.

Prices from Amazon as follows (at time of writing):

MOBO Comparison --- Difference is $15.

http://www.amazon.com/P8P67-DELUXE-REV-3-0-Motherboard/dp/B004QF0VDG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319560614&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/SABERTOOTH-P67-REV-3-0-Motherboard/dp/B004K330KK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319560832&sr=1-1

PSU Comparison --- Difference is $100.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Professional-Certified-1050-Watt-Compatible/dp/B00539M4M0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319560965&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-800-Watt-Certified-Compatible-Platforms/dp/B004H1XXGQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319560911&sr=1-1

CPU Cooling Comparison --- Difficult, as I had stated considering the one is unique to DS and thus hard to price accurately. If I'm being honest, I'd wager that the liquid cooling solution is actually superior to the air cooling in your configuration, seeing as how it will likely run more quietly (he did originally state something regarding noise insulation, so I assume noise is a concern).

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Air-Performance-Cooler-CAFA70/dp/B003IT6RE8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319561208&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Corsair+A70&x=0&y=0#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=corsair+liquid+cooling&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Acorsair+liquid+cooling

As can be seen, every Corsair liquid cooling solution is more expensive than the A70, with fantastic satisfaction rates.

Case Comparison --- $20.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SuperSpeed-Interior-RC-942-KKN1/dp/B003S68Q0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319561466&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CC600TWM-WHT-Special-Graphite-Computer/dp/B004O0PAKW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319561533&sr=1-1

You (or him, since it's to be HIS new system) can run the other comparisons on the site, since I'm tired of posting the links. However, you get the picture, and if I wanted to nitpick I could probably hunt down some of the components for slightly cheaper on different sites... I just went to Amazon real quick to save time and illustrate my point.



Now, to address your other points:

Yes, the 800w is inferior. I fully understand that, and have stated as such in both of my previous posts. However, unless he plans to upgrade his GPUs very soon after buying, I don't understand why he needs the 1050HX RIGHT NOW. As you said, the 800w has 3 guaranteed years in it, and by that time he'll probably want to upgrade anyway. Paying for two PSUs doesn't matter when he's still saving hundreds and hundreds of dollars even after buying the 1050HX. Also, your point about upgrading GPUs is strange to me seeing as how the reason you told him to get the 1050HX in the first place was so that he COULD upgrade his GPUs down the line.

It's not like I'm telling him to build a computer from a shell, in fact I'm recommending he do NOTHING until he desires to update his GPUs, at which point he'll have saved the money to buy a better PSU and have a considerable amount ($500) to apply towards purchasing his new cards. And if he is uncomfortable doing it himself, the DS team has the same warranty and upgrade policies for both the ODE Level 3 and your configuration, so support is no better on the much more pricey build.

Long story short, I'm not suggesting he spend $4,000 just so he can upgrade things later himself, I'm suggesting he spend $2,350 and not touch it until he wants to upgrade his GPUs a couple of years from now, at which point he would have to do the same on your configuration (both are identical, 570 SLI).

Oh, and as a side note, the ODE Level 3 is such a sick deal that even if you built your own system from the ground up buy purchasing individual components, you'd come out at roughly $150 less than DS in total, but with no product service and having to make sure each part works properly and installing everything yourself, so if you don't need to support super high resolution displays, I'd suggest buying the ODE even if you do know how to build your own computer. It's really that much of a bargain.