4k monitorsPost Date: 2020-07-23 |
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Slowslug
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Topic: 4k monitorsPosted: 23 Jul 2020 at 10:30pm |
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What does it take to run 4k, on a 32in or (any) monitor? Does the size of the monitor from 32 to 40in make any difference? on the GPU/comp?
This is above ideal game requirements at 1440, but 4k? rysen 9 2080 gpu 32ddr4 3200mhz internet 50mbps |
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Cretae
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 3:43am |
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Wait for the new Nvidia line coming in September. The 2080 will struggle at 4K and barely hit 60 fps on top games at highest settings. If settings can be dialed back, it'll do okay. The next gen (3080?) is expected to be much stronger at about the same price.
The size of the monitor isn't that important, it's the frame rates and then the game settings.
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theantihero
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 5:03am |
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Next gen is rumored to be at like 20% faster which isn’t much, but still better as newer hw. As the NVIDIA CEO said back in 2019, Moore’s law is dead. In my opinion, comes the age of optimization which we see. With DLSS 2.0 its becoming more possible nowadays to play on 4k with higher FPS. Just needs more time for games to adopt this new technology and more deep learning training. I’d give it some time until real solid benchmarks and reviews come out for the Ampere if you already have the 2000 series. I would personally wait on that, but it will probably get sold out by then, but for me I always end up getting it by the time when I do want to have it for an upgrade. Really depends on you as the consumer to make that decision. I’m probably going to be rocking the 2080ti for a long while as I don’t really need what the 3000 series offers. Also, the size of monitor doesn’t matter as the amount of pixels your monitor outputs is whats important (e.g., 2160p you can always dial this down to bring up fps as less pixels to work with for your gpu). If you don’t have anything the release is literally right around the corner if speculation is true which should be announced sometime around September? I would wait if I had nothing to begin with.
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hoserator
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:28am |
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To answer, you need a RTX 280Ti (and most likely 2) to run 4K. The rumored new cards were supposed to come out at the beginning of the year. If you think anything has changed since, then stick to Sept. IMO ???who knows!! Go with what your budget will tolerate. It is better to have and not need than to need and not have. Right now the sweet spot in monitors is 2K and the best card is the 2080TI. It is overkill for 2K now but will not tomorrow when the 4000 series (next after the 3000s) comes out. I had the best when they came out (2014 GTX 980 x 4) and just this year upgraded to the 2080Ti x 2 when the games became unplayable. That's a good number of years. Edited by hoserator - 24 Jul 2020 at 8:30am |
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theantihero
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:51am |
I actually run 4k games pretty fine (single-card) on my 4k monitor with g-sync at 144hz (although I won't hit 144 fps in most games I play, I'll be close to it). I guess it really depends on what you can purchase within your budget as well as having the things required to run it and have a good experience. 2080ti is awesome, but really expensive imho, but I bought it anyways because I was fortunate enough to do so. It gives me good experience at 4k on Apex, CSGO, LoL, Star Citizen, etc. Most of them hitting 90-100+ fps with some configuring on nvidia settings. Older games like CSGO, I get really good fps upwards of ~200fps@4k. Apex's fps is ~120@4k from just briefly testing. G-Sync really helps a lot smoothing it out getting rid of the screen tears. It's not that you can't run 4k on a 2080, it's just a matter of if you would be annoyed by ~20% performance difference in games. It's not completely unplayable if you have a G-Sync monitor. For me personally, I can't really tell much difference playing on a game 120hz, 144hz, 240hz. I think there's a 300hz now? I can definitely tell the difference in just normal day-to-day usage, but not as much in games, yeah it's definitely more smoother if you can support the frames for it. I guess comes back to a budget money factor since g-sync is expensive too lol. I will say that jumping from a 60hz to 120-144hz is night and day, which definitely makes my experience great as I wfh a lot. DLSS 2.0 is still new, so will take some time for a lot of titles to adopt to using it, but I'm hopeful it will do big things in the future for the 2000 series as well as 3000s and going forward. The Death Stranding demo they showed for DLSS 2.0 on a RTX 2060 was amazing as well as the Control one! pretty much +2x more FPS on 4K. Edited by theantihero - 24 Jul 2020 at 12:56pm |
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Slowslug
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Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 12:04am |
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Thanks all, clears things up. I bought on a wim a
XFX - THICC III Ultra AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card - Black $95.00 Its not a bad gpu. Im going to use it on my home pc for awhile. FYI: The Game Microsoft flight 2020 is: Tapping into Microsoft's satellite mapping, artificial intelligence, and various supplementary data, eyeing a full digital replica of planet Earth. I was able to get this: DLSS The game (pc-x-box) will no doubt be used as a tech demo for the XSX, and adding ray tracing would put it over the top. Granted, XSX won't support DLSS, but it will support the Microsoft equivalent DirectML. Regardless of what they do with the Xbox version, I'm a PC gamer, and so is the majority of the sub, so the combination of DXR 1.1 and DLSS 2.0, or even DLSS 3.0 when the Nvidia 3000 series launches, on PC is possible and very appealing. I'm learning. They also said that it's all about Bandwith whan it comes to 4k. I guess in a few months, ill ask about a Monitor/GPU to use... Edited by Slowslug - 25 Jul 2020 at 12:21am |
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