5870 vs 6870 for gaming

The 6870 is cheaper on the configurator. Why is this? I don't know what statistics of graphics cards apply to gaming the most.

ATI named their mid range card 6870.... very confusing to people. the 6870 has new tech, and a great card for the $$, but as of right now the 5870 is slightly faster, there will be a 6970 very soon that will be their top single card.

It will likely release before Christmas.

No........ Seriously..??  Dude, the 6870 performs great.  The crossfire scaling is really improved, and it can almost hold it's own with a 480 when it comes to cf performance, I mean it is not too far off.  It is more of the performance of a 470 though.  Yet this card was only set to replace the 5770, which the 5850 is the true competitor to the 470.  So this card is performing awesomely.  Also, bot companies thought they would be designing cards on a 32nm structure however TSMC screwed that up.  However, I honestly do not see how you can see Nvidia is still the King.  Ati beat them to Dx11, got the sales, Nvidia came in with controversy with heat and power issues.  The performance didn't wow people on how much it actually beat the 5870.  And, now ATI releases this mid range card that can almost compete with the best, and the 5970 is going to rip the 480.  Which, this card is speculated to drop in November or so.  Also, Nvidia's counter the 580, will probably end up losing out to the ATI dual card coming out a little later in the December range Antilles.  I do like ATI, or my bad AMD but I am in no way a fanboy.  I will admit the 480 is the best single card on the market right now, yet you at least have to give credit when credit is due.  AMD took the upper hand with their early 2009 Dx11 release, and they are still doing a good job and maintaining the Dx11 market in the performance region.  If Nvidia could be labeled king anywhere in this particular market it would be the 460/5330-5700 area of performance.  Which the Bart cards 6850 and 6870 are created to compete with, and they do that justly so, even measuring up to the 470.  

Don't stop now Ward, tell us how you really feel.

lol starting brand flamewars is one of the best marketing tricks ever

And to clarify something flaming is based more off of halftruths and and misguiding info. No sir, if NVIDIA were to switch positions with AMD and they hit the Dx11 market first and were maintaining the upper hand in the performance region, I would've gone off on the same rant about them. I just don't like to see the truth being bent especially when people are spending money over it, call me a protector of truth if you will lol.

Originally posted by WardTheSteak Lolz at dragoon, and yes I am paid by AMD !ender. But no seriously I usually don't like to get into this stuff till lately, I just don't understand on what basis you could say NVIDIA is the king right now based on love for the company and misinformation when you're giving someone advice on upgrades. So yes I got into a bit of a rant.

dont misquote me, and dont pull me into a flame war. i reccomend nvidia for two reasons:

Edited by !ender_ - 29 Oct 2010 at 10:57pm

oh, i skip his posts

lol i think of myself more of a brand whore than a fanboi

Lol yeah, sounds good can't wait to see how they perform, speaking of overclocking though heard anything on the overclockability of the newer cards.

Originally posted by Raif the good news about this card is it is going to force nvidia to reduce prices on their 4xx line to combat this new release. for the extra money 5870 would be better, and it performs better as well. however the 6870 has less of a performance gap between max and min fps. is it worth losing overall top performance? not really since the difference is only minor 2-4 fps on both ends. looks like both gpu manufacturers didn't really get what they wanted out of this years releases. each had higher expectations but nvidia is still king. i wonder how bulldozer is going to do... they may steal intels crown for the first time since the athalon.

 

added u im 8==D master
i think hes talking about the new amd cpus? maybe?