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Post Date: 2010-05-06

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Poll Question: which 6 core processor would you want in your config and Y?
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    Posted: 06 May 2010 at 10:42pm

im siding with AMD and not just because  im a stockholder. it'll be way cheaper and and just as efficient and ill still get a 6 core processor. + theres the unspoken rule that AMd and Ati works best with each other and Interl ANd Nivida works best with each other and ATi's on the top for the moment

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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 May 2010 at 10:45pm
but the 4 core Intel still beats the AMD 6 core.. so I don't see why anyone would compare the AMD with a more powerful Intel?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 May 2010 at 11:19pm
These polls are silly and very incomplete. The cheapest Intel 900 series (920/930) quad cores out perform the hex core AMDs in almost every way. The Intel motherboard chipsets are also vastly superior to the AMD offerings.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 May 2010 at 11:25pm

ATI and Intel I would say work better together.. in previous Intel chipsets, you could only use ATI in multi GPU setups, had to use a crappy Nvidia chipset to run a Nvidia multi cards, till the X58 came along.

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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 12:16am
whats better? hmmm depends on your needs. the i7 980 hands down beats the phenom II x 6. the i7 980 retails generally at about 1k and the AMD hex core around $250 from what i've read...

so the AMD is a wise choice to get the most out of a small budget. from what i;ve read the new AMD x6 has the performace of about a 920/930 at a cheap cost.  with their turbo tech it allows the CPU's to be overclocked automatically on the fly so that if one core is needed more then the other it diverts power from one core ( unused) to another.

AMD's strategy is not to be the top power dog... instead it was a more realistic approach especially with the economy. they give you great performance for the money spent. the key is money spent. AMD is successful in their own domain.

There isn't much to be said about the intel since its attributes are well known as well as its performance. faster, better oc, ect. this comes at a price... and thats big bucks.

hands down 980 over x6. i find this poll a little irrelevant sicne it should be compared to 920/930 since that is its equal in performance. if you compare the x6 to a 920/930 i would choose the x6 mainly for its turbo boost feature or if i was on a tight budget where i to had to trim every piece of possible fat.


Edited by Raif - 07 May 2010 at 12:33am
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  Quote inferno23 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by justin.kerr

but the 4 core Intel still beats the AMD 6 core.. so I don't see why anyone would compare the AMD with a more powerful Intel?
  thats false u know the 4 cores dont beat it in all categories in fact it almost on par with the 975 according to the charts ive seen. and the 975 is still 1000 a processor the x6 black edition is only 300 a 700$ diffrence for what? and the reg x6 is 206$ the 980x it estimated at about 1200$

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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 12:47pm
bullsh*t... get your 6 core post up all the benchmarks you want, and I will beat the crap out of them with a quad core Intel at the same clock speed... this has been proven time and time again..
to say it is on par with the 975, which also gets beat by the 920, because dipsticks who overclock the 975 usually never up the base clock..
 
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  Quote roadkingbill Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 7:44pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 8:48pm
I vote for Cyrix, which had the single most brilliant bit of technology until the touch screen. They had a chip that fit over the wires uniformly spaced about 1/2 mm apart coming from an Intel 386. Snap the Cyrix over those leads, and voila!!, an instant 486 SX-20 was created!  Ahhh, those were the days... uh, no wait... THESE are the days, I mean. Smile
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  Quote inferno23 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by justin.kerr

bullsh*t... get your 6 core post up all the benchmarks you want, and I will beat the crap out of them with a quad core Intel at the same clock speed... this has been proven time and time again..
to say it is on par with the 975, which also gets beat by the 920, because dipsticks who overclock the 975 usually never up the base clock..
 
 
 
Hot Hardwar agrees that the AMD phenom x6 falls between the 870 and the 975 and is not far being the 975 in most test. So for 700$ less i can get close to a 975 performance so y pay 700 more yes im well aware that the 980x outperforms the x6 by alot but AMD is always  making their processors to compete with intels last gen processors not their new ones. I dont need 6 cores to begin with but if i can get something like a 975 performance with out the enormous power drain and cost less then that i will do that 700- 1,000 can go toward something more important that processors like 2x 5870's subzeroed


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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 9:19pm
Why on God's green earth do people even bring up stock 975s? Buy a 920/930 for $260, overclock to 4.0+ GHz, done. Discussion over.

And stop ignoring the inferior chipsets. AMD motherboards will piss all over your SSDs and tell you it's raining, and is worse in many other ways as well.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 May 2010 at 9:32pm
lol, threads like this crack me up..last time I compared benchmarks with my quad and the AMD 6 core, the AMD guys said I needed to disable HT to be a fair comparison.. because my little 4 core beat the crap out of their 6 core in every test they had.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 May 2010 at 2:30am
In all fairness it is true, why would anybody ever look at stock cpu, specially in forums like this? a 920 oced, can beat the heck out of a 975 for around the same price of a six core amd and beat the amd.
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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 May 2010 at 3:18am
100% agreed... inferno i think u lost this one hands down. if people didn't know how to oc then yeah the X6 would be a wise choice. but in the world of a oc environment it stands no chance. i'd rather have a 920 oc for a little less then ur top amd 6 core and beat it every time.

again amd give you more for less. they give u half a$$ed performance for cheap. amd is successful in this field while intel is successful in the crown. they each have two different sides of the market and it is hard to compare them. so this is for someone with a low budget... or has no way to get a cpu overclocked.
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  Quote silentoption Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2010 at 10:05am
I voted for intel. Although my current rig is Phenom II 955. I plan to get Intel 980X for my next computer. I'm also an intel and nvidia stockholder. Ouch

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  Quote kainhall Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2010 at 10:59am
well, i have a post showing that the amdx6 beats the 930. hands down. and 8 real cores is better then 4 real cores with hyper threading
why???
HT makes the cores less efficnet, but its faster, like a honda vs a chevy with a 350 v8 in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but the honda is quick off the line and better in MPG.
 
the x6 is better then the 930. and most people who are on newegg are never going to over clock, i have met a kid in person who tryed to stick a 5790 in a pci slot, he took a hammer to the card then blamed ati for there sh*ty products that dont fit!!!!
 
and, amd overclocks easly. in fact, every amd cpu 955 and up i have seen at 4+ ghz on the stock cooler. its hot! but it works. but if you overclock, you have a after market cooler!
 
and HT is a load of bull shti, give me 8 real cores before i take 4 real and 4 fake cores.
 
and intel is the fastest chip on the market today, but for 1200 bucks i could build a system that could keep up with yours for less money!!!!! have fun with your 300 fps that you cant even see the difference after 75fps!
 
and, the 890fx chipset is perty good with ssd!!!


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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2010 at 11:52am

Like I said, put up or shut up.. The Intel 920 smokes to AMD 6 core, not by a little, not by a few percentage points, but by a lot. I have proved that time and time again.. so post up your benchmarks, and I will show you how badly the little Intel beats the AMD 6 core..

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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2010 at 11:58am
the 890 chipset and SSD's are pretty good? l what are you smoking?... the 890 is horrible with SSD's..
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2010 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by kainhall

and intel is the fastest chip on the market today, but for 1200 bucks i could build a system that could keep up with yours for less money!!!!! have fun with your 300 fps that you cant even see the difference after 75fps!

I hate when people say things like this, it is purposely misleading by leaving out a lot of key information. Basically you pick all the cheapest parts possible to make an AMD computer, give the total price, and then make it sound as if it would be much more expensive to make an equivalent Intel computer. The fact is the only differences between the two will be the processor, motherboard, and RAM, you don't factor in the price of anything else because all the rest of the parts, case, PSU, GPU, OS, and DVD drive are going to be the same.

So lets see what Newegg has to say about the prices.
AMD System:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Price: $205
BIOSTAR TA890GXE AM3 890GX Micro Motherboard
Price: $120
OCZ Gold 4GB DDR3 1333
Price: $160
Total Price: $485

Intel System:
Intel Core i7 920
Price: $280
EVGA x58 LE Motherboard
Price: $180
Patriot Viper 6GB DDR3 1600
Price: $160
Total Price: $620

Price Difference: $135

So if you could make an AMD system for $1200, you could make an Intel system for $1335 that is superior in almost every way.

I go where the money takes me, I'm a bang for the buck type of person. Prices say if you're building a new system the AMD Phenom II x6 is in no way a good bang for the buck buy, you give up way way too much performance, functionality, and compatibility for an insignificant $135. You could probably save than that just stepping down to the socket 1156 (P55) Intel Core i5/i7 line, and even that I wouldn't recommend to any but the most severely budget limited people.

Don't get me wrong or anything, I don't hate AMD, had they better performing CPU and motherboards than Intel for the same price or even equally performing CPU and motherboards compared to Intel but cheaper, I'd be recommending high end AMD systems right now. But they don't, and high end Intel systems are the better buy right now. What I do hate is the bending or outright fabrication of facts and bad advise by fanboys, regardless of which side of the camp they are on. Digital Storm is a great company and as such a great active and helpful forum community has formed around it with people who like to help other people make the most of their money. People who are spending a lot of money, and you can't mess around with other people's money like that.
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  Quote inferno23 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 May 2010 at 12:40am
Originally posted by Dragoonseal

Originally posted by kainhall

and intel is the fastest chip on the market today, but for 1200 bucks i could build a system that could keep up with yours for less money!!!!! have fun with your 300 fps that you cant even see the difference after 75fps!

I hate when people say things like this, it is purposely misleading by leaving out a lot of key information. Basically you pick all the cheapest parts possible to make an AMD computer, give the total price, and then make it sound as if it would be much more expensive to make an equivalent Intel computer. The fact is the only differences between the two will be the processor, motherboard, and RAM, you don't factor in the price of anything else because all the rest of the parts, case, PSU, GPU, OS, and DVD drive are going to be the same.

So lets see what Newegg has to say about the prices.
AMD System:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Price: $205
BIOSTAR TA890GXE AM3 890GX Micro Motherboard
Price: $120
OCZ Gold 4GB DDR3 1333
Price: $160
Total Price: $485

Intel System:
Intel Core i7 920
Price: $280
EVGA x58 LE Motherboard
Price: $180
Patriot Viper 6GB DDR3 1600
Price: $160
Total Price: $620

Price Difference: $135

So if you could make an AMD system for $1200, you could make an Intel system for $1335 that is superior in almost every way.

I go where the money takes me, I'm a bang for the buck type of person. Prices say if you're building a new system the AMD Phenom II x6 is in no way a good bang for the buck buy, you give up way way too much performance, functionality, and compatibility for an insignificant $135. You could probably save than that just stepping down to the socket 1156 (P55) Intel Core i5/i7 line, and even that I wouldn't recommend to any but the most severely budget limited people.

Don't get me wrong or anything, I don't hate AMD, had they better performing CPU and motherboards than Intel for the same price or even equally performing CPU and motherboards compared to Intel but cheaper, I'd be recommending high end AMD systems right now. But they don't, and high end Intel systems are the better buy right now. What I do hate is the bending or outright fabrication of facts and bad advise by fanboys, regardless of which side of the camp they are on. Digital Storm is a great company and as such a great active and helpful forum community has formed around it with people who like to help other people make the most of their money. People who are spending a lot of money, and you can't mess around with other people's money like that.
 
question y did you give intel the 1600 ghz ram while amd got the 1333 ghz nothing personal but i find most overclockers dont pair the 2 up fairly at all.
one we are only talking preference not which is better as the poll stated . and were talking 6 cores not 4 or all so i really dont see how the 920 or 930 got in the picture but thats cool 2. All of you intel fans that swear amd sucks the opteron could be put in a regular PC and would kick the crap outta any intel on the market 2nd most extreme overclockers use amd processors when breaking records not intel and im pretty sure theres a pretty legitimate reason as 2 y + ure backing a company that got sued for bribing retail stores to not buy their counterpart yet amd still stands strong. PLS realize that amd isnt competing with intels best they always do the 2nd best thats how you cut into their profits 95% of people arent gonna pay for the top processor on the market and will take the 2nd or 3rd best at a marked down price and that no matter how you look at it is amd. NAD b4 i get slandered for saying it YES INTEL HAS THE BEST NON- SERVER PROCESSOR but who really wants to pay 1,300$ when the competitons 700$ less and will still do more than you need?


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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 May 2010 at 1:08am
he posted the 4 core, because the 4 core beats the AMD 6 core.....
 almost all of the overclocking performance records are held by Intel CPUs.
you say the opteron can beat the Intel, well bring it.. all you do is spew poo, no facts, no benchmarks, no records. nothing..post up some benchmarks, some performance records, something...
the 980x is not $1300... it is the same price Intel has priced the Extreme chips for years.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 May 2010 at 4:35am
Originally posted by inferno23

question y did you give intel the 1600 ghz ram while amd got the 1333 ghz nothing personal but i find most overclockers dont pair the 2 up fairly at all.

I selected 1333Mhz RAM for the AMD because I was trying to be nice. The only 4GB 1600Mhz RAM option I originally seen was $175, but looking again I see the search parameters weren't labeled well and I was doing searches for single sticks of 4GB. Searching again I see you can get 4GB (2x2GB) 1600Mhz DDR3 for $95 (if you hurry and catch the rebate), much better.

So to amend my last post, that would bring the price difference up to only an even $200. If you can build an AMD system for $1200, you could make an Intel system for $1400 that is superior in almost every way.
Originally posted by inferno23

one we are only talking preference not which is better as the poll stated . and were talking 6 cores not 4 or all so i really dont see how the 920 or 930 got in the picture but thats cool 2. All of you intel fans that swear amd sucks the opteron could be put in a regular PC and would kick the crap outta any intel on the market 2nd most extreme overclockers use amd processors when breaking records not intel and im pretty sure theres a pretty legitimate reason as 2 y + ure backing a company that got sued for bribing retail stores to not buy their counterpart yet amd still stands strong. PLS realize that amd isnt competing with intels best they always do the 2nd best thats how you cut into their profits 95% of people arent gonna pay for the top processor on the market and will take the 2nd or 3rd best at a marked down price and that no matter how you look at it is amd. NAD b4 i get slandered for saying it YES INTEL HAS THE BEST NON- SERVER PROCESSOR but who really wants to pay 1,300$ when the competitons 700$ less and will still do more than you need?

You don't seem to be in the same conversation as the rest of us, I'm not quite sure how to even address this. This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say I hate ranting and raving from rabid fanboys, they're in their own little world and real numbers and facts mean nothing.

Every review I come across paints the same picture over and over, AMD's Phenom II X6 line fails to compete with even Intel's quad core budget i5/i7 line in almost any way. Clock for clock a $260 or less Core i5/i7 stomps all over anything the Phenom II X6s manage, there is no need to even bring the more expensive i7 980x into the discussion. Like I said before makes this poll pointless because the two options are in completely different classes and price points. And this is just the CPUs themselves, in CPU centric tests, if you're talking about making an AMD system then you need to realize that the motherboards are much inferior to the Intel offerings, especially the x58 platform.
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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2010 at 5:51pm
i have a idea... since people are just butting heads! justin post your benkmarksand inferno post yours. a simple yet elegant way to end the debate... shall we?
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2010 at 7:09pm
We now offer the AMD six-core in our 'Special Deals'
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 May 2010 at 7:22pm
the AMD 6 coe benchmarks all easily found, been out for a while now... Intels i7 quad core has been out for years, and those benchmarks all well kown... so it is very easy to see the Intel quad is far faster than the AMD 6 core.
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