90 degrees of Rotation

Are cases that utilize this "Revolutionary" 90degree motherboard rotation really worth it? Does the natural heat flow really make that much of a difference?

and takes some stress off the PCIe lane(s)

wait so the default fans arent good enough on the FT02? Would switching them out for the AP 181/AP121 make a big difference cause i thought the original fans on them were good enough. 

I dont think it even needs the better fans, the stock fans on FT02 vs stock 932 would be pretty close if not better i believe in air cooling

Assassin has a very high positive pressure while the haf pretty much cant because its an open case and according to justin if i remember correctly he said the assassin has a higher intake cfm or someting like that. I do agree it is a bit over in the price range but doesnt mean it isnt a better cooler than the haf 

Originally posted by Mr. I do agree it is a bit over in the price range but doesnt mean it isnt a better cooler than the haf

Heh, yes it does. Positive pressure doesn't even help air flow, it just helps keep dust out a system if you use filtered intake fans, because positive pressure means all the air entering the system will be going through the air intake fans and not any open air sections of the case. But positive air flow can create warm air pockets, negative air flow doesn't have this issue.

Justin's opinion is that positive pressure helps GPU cooling. However I disagree, I think well directed and high CFM air flow is much more important. The HAF 932 has two 230mm fans blowing cool air directly at the GPUs, from the side and the front, so no issues in that regard.

The Assassin is built primarily to be quiet, not to maximize cooling.

Positive pressure on air cooled GPU's is no opinion.. that is pure and simple fact. could not be easier to explain.. moving air from one area to another will always be based on pascal difference between the two, also temp delta along with humidity.Moving air from a higher pressure to a lower will always increase flow.. come on now this is basic stuff..

You know, just wondering something. Positive pressure in the Assassin/Raven 2 is caused by the three 180mm fans at the bottom intaking air in to the case, but because of the fact that the effective range of the fan doesn't usually reach all the way to the top of the case, the interior pressure of the case builds, right?

the AP181 fans that I suggested I think are supposed to combat heat buildup in the case actually...instead of focusing on sucking in air, it focuses a lot on channeling air through the case too.

Ok guys, you lost me somewhere between positive/negative pressure and CFM intake. Could someone summarize in layman's terms?

I see. So is the general consensus that the positive pressure available in FT02 cases more efficient than a more open case?

I really doubt there is much difference in temps. Digital Storm has all "gamer" type cases that are designed to keep these heat dumping rigs cool as possible, without souning like a jet.

cool articles blah, the concept sounds great and all. the one thing you have to take into consideration is that all the "research" is done by the same company attempting to sell the product so their tests could be a little biased. i look forward to hearing about YOUR results.

the real sad thing is that most of the time, what you read and hear are pretty much the only things you have to go on to select something for yourself. true first hand accounts are pretty hard to pinpoint and base your decisions on, and even then, it was based on that guy's needs, not yours.

Oh, and teaeiworld, in the next 7-9 months, just wanted to make a note that the Raven 3 should be coming out. Versus the FT02 at the moment, it think it looks better and is outfitted a lot better.

Side window's on the left like it should be, fans are tricked out with the air penetrator line. New innovations include the overall redux of the case (bringing back the RV01 taste from the looks of it), hard drives being slapped on the right of the case behind the motherboard/components, and the fact that they stuck the PSU on its side up front underneath the 5.25" bays.

Raven 3 looks better than the Raven 2 in my opinion. With the hard drives mounted on the right, you can now use the 7 front 5.25" bays for 7 actual 5.25" bay devices. PSU's in a much more logical place, that small little bracket the Raven 2 and Fortress 2 had the PSU hanging on made me uneasy. And I like the overall look, more attention's given to the front and top of the case.

Versus the Raven 1, which I liked better than the Raven 2 (supports E-ATX, more visually appealing to me), the Raven 3 supports more 5.25" devices, comes with better stock fans (could always upgrade the Raven 1 though), and has a better way of cooling the CPU. The one weakness of the Raven 1 that I noticed is that the CPU cooler has no direct intake. 180mm fans suck air from the vents at the bottom of the case, but the CPU cooler has no fan that really aids it. Raven 2 fixed that, but the Raven 2's design just sucked for me.


Edited by ablahblah - 02 Aug 2010 at 1:17pm

Anyone know when these cases come out? the tj11, and raven 3?

If they keep the FT03 like a trash bin then itd b horrible i thought the ft03 would be another mid case but dam, look at the pics. they screwed up the ft02. i love looks of the tj 11 though

i didn't care for the TJ11 either. it's too big for my tastes. it seemed like they had a really good idea with the FT02. seems like a shame they went away from it. i wonder if other case makers are going to hop on the rotated motherboard concept now that silverstone seems to be making some noise.

really....that's lame as poop (except from a business standpoint). so the rest of the industry has to wait like 7 years or whatever it is, or buy from them and mod them. i noticed M@inge@r has a modded FT02. i have a serious hard-on for the assassin case because of the looks and i love the 3 fans on the bottom blowing toward the top.

Edited by teaiewold - 03 Aug 2010 at 11:50pm