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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: A little late, but my configuration. :P
    Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 5:59pm
I ordered my PC before I started browsing the forums heavily, and since I myself don't have more than a basic computer knowledge, I'm having second thoughts about my build.

I just received a phone call today, letting me know that assembly had begun, and to call if I had any questions or concerns. So, I figured I'd post my configuration and make sure there aren't any serious problems. Better late than never, they say. :)

Thanks to all who take a look over this, I truly appreciate it.

And just a little bit of information, I don't plan on upgrading the PC too much, immediately anyway. I'm guessing a few years down the line, it will be obsolete, and at that point, I can either buy a new one, send it in for upgrades, or do it myself (which, with my experience, I'd be wary of). I'll be using the PC for gaming. Anyhow, I truly can't go much deeper at the moment, and that's why I opted for the budget minded RAM. Though, I am kicking myself in the head a bit for going with the 620w PSU, over a 750w, because as I'm reading it, if I wanted to add another 8800GTS down the line, I'd have to upgrade my PSU. But, it should be sufficient for the moment, and as I said before, I don't see myself upgrading it too much the next few years.

Thanks again. :)

System Configuration:
Case: Digital Storm Twister PRO (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 620W Corsair HX (SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) (High-Quality Unit)
Processor: AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3.0GHz (Dual Core) (2 MB Cache) w/HyperTransport
Motherboard: nVidia 590 SLI (By: eVGA) (nForce 590 SLI)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 667MHz (Dual Channel)
Floppy / Media: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 500GB (Western Digital / Seagate) (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Network Card: D-Link Wireless-G 54Mbps (Supports 802.11g/b)
Modem: - No Thanks
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 640MB (By: eVGA / Asus) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer (Up to 7.1 Channel) (Recommended)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 1 (Certified Digital Storm Heat-sink)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Black Edition)
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 (Includes Service Pack 2)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 2.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse)
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support

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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 6:58pm
500gb HDD is very huge for a gamer.

Should have went with an Intel CPU since the Core 2s murders any processor AMD has right now.

Wireless connection sucks very badly for gaming.

Get the 8800 GTS 320MB or 8800 GTX. The 640MB is not worth the extra $100 for a 1-5 fps increase.
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 7:06pm
Yeah, I went with the 500GB sorta out of spite. I've been living with a 40GB one for far too long.

I guess blind AMD-fanboyism is kinda worthless when I don't have all the knowledge to make educated decisions. Dead

Also another thing I'm a little sad about. The cable line is dead in my room, so the router is in the living room. I don't really feel like running a line through the floor, and my provider wants to charge some ridiculous fee to get the line running again. I'll take the loss, I'm more of a single player gamer, anyhow.

As for the graphics card, thanks for the advice. :)

Would you happen to know if it's too late to call them up and request changes, or is it all set in stone once the order goes through? I believe I've read that you can request changes, so this is more of a clarification question.


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  Quote commast Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:21pm
Your config is fine, except that i agree with skyR that you should go with the Intel CPU. As fas as video card the 640 mb is great if you plan to play game on a big screen. The extra MB can also come in handy because the game can also store all kind of graphic textures and other things to speed up the game.  I think that 500GB is fine since you're not planning to upgrade soon and it doesn't hurt to have the extra storage, it's pretty cheap. You can call DS as soon as you can and they may be able to change your config.
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  Quote 67alecto Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by skyR


Wireless connection sucks very badly for gaming.

 
I game wirelessly - as long as you have a good signal and a quality router, it will work just fine.
 
My setup isn't even ideal - my CPU is on the other side of the house, and has in the direct line between the router:
 
3 drywalls
a DVR with an RF controller for a separate unit upstairs
a 2.4 ghz cordless phone
 
The only thing I had to do was make sure the signal wasn't passing through an exterior, brick wall.
 
My download speeds are consistently ~7mb
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:34pm
Alright, I checked it out, and if I were to switch to an Intel chip, and drop to the 320MB card, it would be around the same in price.

So, for all around performance, should I go with the Q6600 (2.4Ghz Quad) or the E6850 (3.0Ghz Duo)?
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  Quote commast Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:38pm
Originally posted by Sonofek

Alright, I checked it out, and if I were to switch to an Intel chip, and drop to the 320MB card, it would be around the same in price.

So, for all around performance, should I go with the Q6600 (2.4Ghz Quad) or the E6850 (3.0Ghz Duo)?
 
For game performance the E6850 is better BUT for all around performance the Q6600 is the way to go. Remember that you can OC the CPU too. The E6850 is faster in games but do you really need games to run at 100 fps ???? Human eyes can only see about 60 fps. A better video card will make your game look better not the CPU.
 
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:42pm
Depends on what you plan on doing.

If you do any rendering, editing, multi-tasking, or anything that requires raw CPU power. Get the quad. It is a better investment since quad will be standard in 2~ years.

If you only do minor stuff and play current and past games. It's better to get the higher clocked duo.

The human eye can't see above 30 FPS.


Edited by skyR - 05 Sep 2007 at 8:43pm
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:43pm
Alright, looks like I'm going with the Quad. :)
And nope, trust me, I'm used to having a horrible FPS (WoW, in Ironforge, on a Saturday night, with my current set-up (AMD Sempron 2200+, 1GB RAM, Geforce MX420 (64MB, I believe)), so I'd be more than happy to go with 60FPS, or even a bit less.

I'm also completely clueless to exactly what overclocking is, so I'm not sure I'll be doing that anytime soon. >.>

-Edit: I do plan on playing a good amount of games, both new and old, but I always have a few applications running at a time, and I'm horrible with my tabs in Firefox, sometimes having a 30-40 open at a time.


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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:52pm
You can stage 3 air cooling and get the Q6600 overclocked.

Overclocking is changing the settings to make the hardware run faster then it is intended by the manufacturer. The pros are getting faster speeds for a cheaper price. There aren't really any cons if you get professionals to overclock (Digital Storm). The life span is reduced from average 10 to 6-8 years but by then your CPU should already be crap and need a replacement.

I use to play WoW at 10-20 FPS too. I hate anything that has a bad response time or isn't smooth, it gives me a big bad headache.

Wired > wireless for online gaming. If you put two individuals (same skill level) in a 1v1 DM.  The one with a wired connection would always beat the one on wireless. Response time already sucks with a wired connection, and I hate losing >.<


Edited by skyR - 05 Sep 2007 at 8:56pm
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  Quote commast Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 8:52pm
Overclocking is just a way to tweak your hardware to get better performance. For example, let's say you have the Q6600 running at 2.44 GHZ. With OC your CPU can perform like a CPU running at 2.6 Ghz or more. The only drawback is that the OC component may have a shorter life span due to the fact that it wasn't designed to run at that speed--(more heat,..etc..). If you don't know how to OC, then don't, since most of the time the gain is minimal. If you upgrade to the Stage 3 cooling or more, DS can OC your cpu for you at a stable speed. It's up to you.
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 9:07pm
I could do that. Would either of you highly recommend it? And yeah,  I don't think I'll have this computer for more than 8 years, so that shouldn't be a problem.

But before I get too set on the changes, I better make sure that it won't be too much of a hassle changing it around. If I can't make the changes, it's a lesson learned, and I can't hold it against Digital Storm (I wouldn't, even if I could), as it's my own fault for not researching it first, and they've been great so far. I sent in an email asking about it, as it's 6pm now, and I'll give them a call in the morning.


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Yes, i would highly recommended that you let DS overclock your PC. It will give you a better bang for your bucks. Upgrade to stage 3 (around $25, i think) and they will OC your PC on-air. For more speed opt for the liquid-cooling option but i don't think you really need it and its' too expensive anyway. Good Luck Big%20smile
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 10:22pm
Doh, I forgot to add the sound card into my Intel build. >_<
How does the motherboard integrated sound work? Would it be sufficient to play games such as BioShock, or would it not cut it?

I'd add the sound card, but there's only so much I have a budget for now, and I'd rather drop something such as the sound card, and add it later, than going with a sub-par processor.
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 10:39pm
Sound isn't a big deal unless you use quality 5.1+ speakers, or a competitive gamer.
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Sep 2007 at 10:40pm
And I don't, so I should be all good. Thanks, I think I know what I'm going with. :)
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  Quote Sonofek Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 1:30pm
Just received an email response (as I was  writing up a list on what exactly I wanted to change LOL), saying that it was alright.

I'll be calling in a moment. :D


-I put in the changes, and spoke to Dave. Thanks to Robert for sending me the email, and thanks to Dave for dealing with me on the phone. :)


Edited by Sonofek - 06 Sep 2007 at 1:43pm
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