a rig after xmas

Budget:
for budget I am looking for something less than 4k.

Expectations:
I want MAD performance but don't want to break the bank (understanding that those two things may be mutually exclusive]

Usage:
gaming (mmorpg's, FPS[battlefield and CoD0]) and some image manipulation with CS3

Special Needs:
no monitor, leaning towards ATI, dual cd/dvd, no lc if possible

Saved Ticket #: 470576

Specifications:
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Thanks

heres a build to get you started

Originally posted by !ender_ heres a build to get you started http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=470633   if you are more of an ati fan, check out some of thier newer card reviews and see if you want to go that way instead

Now your not anti-ATI, that is interesting.

2560 x 1440 27 inch monitor
...and no need to mock...

Nvidia:

Here you go Ticket# 470809 --- Price: $3060 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (USB 3.0 & SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Drive Force Series CSSD-F160GBP2-BRKT)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: FREE PROMO: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty

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ATI:

Here you go Ticket# 470810 --- Price: $3180 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (USB 3.0 & SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Drive Force Series CSSD-F160GBP2-BRKT)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x CrossFire Dual (ATI Radeon HD 6970 2GB)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: FREE PROMO: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty

now few things, I gave you a 1200w psu in case you might want to go tri sli/cf in the future, if you don't see that happening then drop the psu to 1000w corsair.

for HDD1 I gave you a 160GB intel ssd, if you think you don't need that much space for HDD1 then drop the size of the intel ssd to 80GB

ask as many questions as you have.

You can load games and programs generally on the SSD as well. Anything loaded on a SSD will generally load much faster than it would on a standard HDD.

HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games

HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage

hafx is the same as 932, its a tab bit longer, and 2 of its fan is smaller, in short the 932 gives you the same.

if you have a use for a sound card, go for it.

gaming-wise nothing else will get you better performance.

Our pleasure and good luck

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Dec 2010 at 6:42pm

Originally posted by !ender_ I am by no means pushing ATI, he said he likes ATI, so to avoid getting flamed for telling him to choose nvidia INSTEAD of ATI, I suggested checking out the benchmarks. Obviously, that didnt work. So since you are going to be annoying about it either way: Book, I'd reccomend Nvidia over ATI as thier drivers are far more dependable.

LOL and yours would be

Throw your money away by getting hardware you will never notice difference from.

Future proof your pc, just like everybody who got a sli 275 at 1600 x 1200, when they didn't need sli, notice how future proof they are, specially with DX11.GO BIG OR GO HOME.

Buy now and throw your money away on stuff you will never notice the difference form

Do you play WOW at 1600 x 1200? Well then we got a dual sli 580 gtx thats just right for you, don't settle for smooth gaming, go for overkill, you want 200fps on your 60hz monitor, GO BIG OR GO HOME.

GO BIG OR GO HOME.WASTE BIG AND GO HOME






Edited by DST4ME - 21 Dec 2010 at 7:38am

justin if you play wow at 1600 x 1200 why would you need sli 570? nothings

if the user has 120hz and 3d that is a different story, wer are talking about wow on 1600 x 1200 monitor.

On top of that the user needs to know that he is getting overkill, giving people overkill and calling it future proof is pure BS, just like 270 gtx sli is future proof right now with dx11.

the problem here is not advising more power to people that have a use for it with a 30" monitor and etc, the problem here is telling people that have said they don't want to upgrade their 1600 x 1200 monitor to get sli 570, specially when they will get minimum of 50fps in those games at that res.

Some people do have use for dual/tri sli, but you can't give everybody sli 570 regardless of what monitor they go and if they want to upgrade it in the future or not, without explaining to them that differences properly, aka its a waste.

as for things changing, that is why we buy the pc here at DS, so we can change/upgrade parts, and before we decide people can't turn a doorknob or change/upgrade a gpu, lets ask them instead of deciding for them. Its wrong to assume that people can't change their gpu or will buy things later, instead we can simply ask and get the facts from the user.

If dx11.1 and 12 are part of the future, than how can you be future proof when dx11.1 and 12 are around the corner, and current cards don't support it.

and its not ender hating, its called wasting your money without explaining it to you hating.

Edited by DST4ME - 21 Dec 2010 at 10:26am

Originally posted by DST4ME justin if you play wow at 1600 x 1200 why would you need sli 570? nothings if the user has 120hz and 3d that is a different story, wer are talking about wow on 1600 x 1200 monitor. On top of that the user needs to know that he is getting overkill, giving people overkill and calling it future proof is pure BS, just like 270 gtx sli is future proof right now with dx11. the problem here is not advising more power to people that have a use for it with a 30" monitor and etc, the problem here is telling people that have said they don't want to upgrade their 1600 x 1200 monitor to get sli 570, specially when they will get minimum of 50fps in those games at that res. Some people do have use for dual/tri sli, but you can't give everybody sli 570 regardless of what monitor they go and if they want to upgrade it in the future or not, without explaining to them that differences properly, aka its a waste. as for things changing, that is why we buy the pc here at DS, so we can change/upgrade parts, and before we decide people can't turn a doorknob or change/upgrade a gpu, lets ask them instead of deciding for them. Its wrong to assume that people can't change their gpu or will buy things later, instead we can simply ask and get the facts from the user. If dx11.1 and 12 are part of the future, than how can you be future proof when dx11.1 and 12 are around the corner, and current cards don't support it. and its not ender hating, its called wasting your money without explaining it to you hating.

But   what about playing other games? I know some will get a PC just for WOW, but, sooner or later they will play other games, then what? a new PC?

its so funny to watch you shape things in to what you want them to be, the poster you keep minlessly raving in the "defense" of said, and i quote

Edited by !ender_ - 21 Dec 2010 at 8:40pm

Yet what you forget to do when you go through those threads ender is read the fact that the person with the 1600x1200 setup was never going to upgrade his monitor.  He simply didn't want to.  The other guy was going to in the future upgrade to an HDTV.  Honestly justin would you recommend sli or cf for these resolutions??  Especially when the budget isn't the highest, or if they wanna save money.  Also, if you did recommend sli why the gtx 570's, that is overkill for these budgets when you have the 570's outperforming the 480's in most new games.  Why not make a cheaper solution like CF 6950's, which are in a price point of their own right now.  But, I'm sorry right now there isn't a reason to push a dual gpu solution on these low resolutions, and when it does get stressful later on they can just go with the newest latest gpu with the newer version of DX on it which could be way more important than having a dual setup.  Dual setups have their uses, but there are some situations where you honestly shouldn't suggest them.

argh, can we please get this resolved somewhere else where the customer is NOT caught in the midst of this and gets lost of which direction to go? after Alex closed that thread, it's been going on and on in other threads, I think a single, all out thread is really the only way this is gonna get resolved...but that's just my opinion.

meh, unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with you on that it's not gonna get resolved from what I'm seeing (in other threads)

Edited by ablahblah - 21 Dec 2010 at 10:38pm

with SC2 GTX 570 at that res will AVG 40 FPS with GTX 570 at max settings, well not max, but higher settings, min 25-30.. not very fluid, so back down settings, or go SLI

My friend has SC2 at 1600x1200 with a gtx 470, and has SC2 maxed and doesn't have a blip in his gameplay at all, it's ultra smooth.

Fast forward a little bit, and this is what you get. 

1680 x 1050



1920 x 1200