About Aventum 3

OK boss fist welcome to the forums.

Second here is some info for you:

If that pc is for gaming then you are being taken for a ride because I can beat you in gaming in z170 vs that config.

1. Liquid cooling (LC)'s performance is based on its parts, you are mistaken to think that "(I'm not worried about their performance, I'm sure both of them are very good)", Thats not how it works.

LC's performance is solely dependent on the quality of its parts, Not all cpu waterblocks are the same nor are gpu waterblocks.

My advise to you before you jump the gun and trust people on the net, is to get some creditable info and know what you are getting and paying for. I can show you 2 LC systems both will cost around $1300 but one will drastically out perform the other due to the radiators/waterblocks used. And that is just the basics, there is the pump you use, not only the type of tubes you use but also the size of the tube use are important, then there is the fans and etc.

Long story short if you want me to tell you the difference between one LC and the other you need to tell me the make and model gpu and cpu water blocks they use, so I can compare them to the ones DS uses, I the ones I would use myself if I was building my own pc. I can tell this:

A. DS does not want us to discuss other builders here.

B. I went to the builder you mentioned and looked up the cooling you referred to and to be honest the first red flag is that there is no explanation of the parts used there, not even what is including the loop.

If you can find out the make and model and size of the radiator they use in the cooling system, the make and model of the gpu and cpu waterblocks then I can tell you whether they are actually both good in performance or one is superior then the other.

As far as which is easier to work on, again that is dependent on how they setup their loops, here at DS you can ask them to modify it so its easier to drain plus QD and etc, but just because you can drain the loop here easier for example it does not mean that changing wb on the gpu is easier because of that, that again depends on the wb used on the gpu in this example.

2. Last time Alex said they are using HB bridges now, I think for lc on gpu they are using the evga so it fits but double check to be sure.

3. tubing is clear so the color of the fluid will come through. IF the tube has color it makes the fluid color pointless pretty much, so its best to go with one or the other.

4. Raid does improve large file speeds but IMHO its only useful if you are doing work with large files. for gaming its kinda pointless, plus why raid 850 when you can go 950 pro?

5. If you are changing drives you will need to setup raid all over again , if you are using a new os then you won't need any other drivers but on older os you may need drivers.

6. Its not hard but working on your LC is much harder, just fyi.

7. It should take 15 business days, but to be 100% sure ask before you order to be sure.

As I mentioned before if this is a gaming pc I can beat your perfomrance with a 6700k. If this is a work type pc and not gaming then you have some conflicts and some other things that are not the best choice. It has nothing to do with money, just so you know my pc in my sig cost 10k+ but that is because I spent every dime on performance first then some looks.

I also like to advise you to go sites like anadtech and do some research yourself before you take the other company or mine or DS's word on anything, listen to what me and others have to say then do some research yourself in creditable sites like anadtech and then come to your final decision based on the facts. Don't just trust that company or that company has good lc or whatever the parts.

Last take the customer service into account when you are looking for a builder, things go wrong and when they do how are you treated? that is most important to me.

Hope that info helps, if you have any more questions let me know




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Edited by DST4ME - 27 Aug 2016 at 4:12am

My pleasure

I got QD (Quick Disconnect) right before my gpu blocks and right after so that I can easily disconnect the gpus from the loop to make changes or repairs if you will.

So if you are referring to the QD yes, when you disconnect via QD then the fluid is not drained fully.

I suggest you do a bit of looking around and figure out how you want your loop setup, my setup is something I specifically asked for, you need to decide how you want your setup to be and ask for that.

However to make things easier I would recommend you ask DS for a drain valve in your loop so that you can easily drain it via the valve if you need to.

You have anymore questions let us know

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Aug 2016 at 12:49am

If you are trying to flush the system then you need to open the loop not from QD.

When you open the QD it shuts off the valves so that there is no longer a flow from either side that you just opened, consider QD closed till you connect them up, then it opens and allow for flow.




Does that answer your question?

I don't use the DS control panel so I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I would use different software for fan control and temps for better accuracy.

Hwmonitor is a good one, you can find it here

You never told me if this is a gaming rig or not, if it is can you tell me the native resolution of the your monitor you gonna be using or if you are in the market for a monitor?

Also as I mentioned your own config has some conflicts.

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Aug 2016 at 1:30am

Thank you for that info. Allow me to share some info with you:

1. games right now benefit more from core speeds than they do from number of cores. aka higher cpu speed is more important than how many cores the cpu has.

2. the 6700K is from the newest architecture skylake which has much better core utilization.

3. the 6950x is on the old architecture brodwell, it lags behind sklylake in core utilization.

4. To future proof gaming rig as far as ram goes, we choose 16GB to future proof, otherwise 8GB is all you need.

5. For 4k gaming, a single titan under LC with heavy oc is all you need or stock sli 1080, of course with single titan you don't have to deal with sli scaling issues as you would with sli 1080.

6. noise canceling stuff is kinda conflicting with the build itself, truth is that your system is under lc so its going to be more on the quiet side, chocking it with padding is pointless and I'm gonna tell you what to ask for so that we can control the fans ourselves with free software, long story short forget the noise canceling nonsense. Chose between performance and noise you will have to sacrifice one a bit for the other. If you still want less noise let me know and I will discuss your options but you will lose a little performance somewhere.

Based on those facts the 6700k is the obvious choice, its the new platform with the newest tech, its going to have a higher oc since it has less cores and it over clocks better.

So here is my recommendation for you, this will out perform the 6950x config in gaming and anything that has no use for more then 4 cores. I left the sli titan on there for you, but just know that you don't really need them, you can do with single titan with high oc or sli 1080 stock:



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So this is what you need to maxout games at 4k (well more then what you need since its sli titan but as I explained you only need one).

I removed the fan control and etc, instead I kept the extra fans but I all you do is ask DS to connect all the fans to the motherboard, Now your motherboard comes with a software called Fan Xpert+ with that you can control all the fans, for most accurate temps with go to hwmonitor as I mentioned.

Tell me what you think, if you still want to go with the old tech and 6950, then I will be more then happy to show you what to get with that.

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Aug 2016 at 2:17am

Originally posted by DST4ME OK boss fist welcome to the forums. Second here is some info for you: ................................................................ 3. tubing is clear so the color of the fluid will come through. IF the tube has color it makes the fluid color pointless pretty much, so its best to go with one or the other. ................................................ Hope that info helps, if you have any more questions let me know

The reservoir on the Aventum 3 case is clear and big so you can see the coolant's color even if the tubing is not clear. Just fyi.

When disconnecting the QDCs there is a drop or two of liquid you have to watch for, at least on mine. Enjoy.

I see, thanks.

Also the ASUS MAXIMUS VIII EXTREME seems really complicated to use, there're so many options. Where do I really control it? It comes with a App in Windows right? And the Fan control is another app? Also there is a control panel on the DVD bay, like which one do I use? Do I use the software or control panel on the DVD bay?

Also I'm concerned about the KEYBOT II, my keyboard already control by SteelSeries app, they won't conflict with each other right?

And about cpu, 6950x can boost up to 4.4GHz too right?


Edited by Questions - 27 Aug 2016 at 3:58am

Originally posted by DST4ME that big white cylinder on the right is the cleaer reservoir filled with white fluid

Good heavens, Just that corner of the AVENTUM has me all over. That's a beautiful design.

Thanks for the explanition about cpu boost. I saw a few YouTube videos about Asus Maximus VIII Extreme, it's not as complicated as I thought, now I feel more comfortable with it.

Ok another 2 questions before I buy.

Is it safe to nextday air ship it without liquid in the system and I fill them by myself after I receive it. Or it's just not safe for air shipping at all?

And there won't be any BIOS settings for me to modify right? Everything would be done while building the system.

Also last thing can I order my system without any storage drive in it? I want to buy hard drives myself.

Edited by Questions - 27 Aug 2016 at 4:32am

I can disable Keybot right? I thought they always use crate for their shipment, so I have to specially request for a crate?

Also 6700k comes with a built-in graphic card, I can disable it in BIOS right?

Thank you again, really helped me with building my computer.

Looks like an awesome build!