About to buy a new DS system..a few questions..Post Date: 2009-02-04 |
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Winkdaddy 
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After much research I have decided to buy a new computer from Digital Storm...I will be using this system for both gaming and my home office. Please see the below specs and my questiosn afterwards..
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Chassis Model: Antec 900 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Rampage II Extreme (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x) Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: McAfee Internet Security (Includes: AntiVirus, FireWall and AntiSpyware) Office: Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student (Word Excel PowerPoint OneNote) Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse) Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty 1. How does the overall build look?
2. Is the 300gb velciraptor really that much better then the standard 500gb 7200rpm drive?
3. Any comments on the memory type I selected?
4. Do i really need a better cooler for the CPU? I do not plan to overclock just yet...
5. is the 750watt psu enough or do i need the 1000watt?
thanks!!
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 9:04am |
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Thanks.
How about the Antec 900 case vs. the Coolermaster HAF? Are there distinct advantages of one over the other?
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 10:01am |
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So the Rampage 2 is having problems? I am still learning about motherboards and researching more in to it now..
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thorndike
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 11:05am |
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About the HAF case, I remembered reading on reseller rating site, one person gave DS a bad rating cause he/she did not like the look of the case.
Also to quote from MaxiumPC, "Reactions to the case's aesthetics were mixed-some editors hated the combination grill and window side panel, others loved it." It did got 9 out 10 and the "KICK ASS!"
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Sodius
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 11:25am |
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I think the HAF is a like it or hate it type of case. Looks are nice but I will take the air flow above the looks. Plus with a little imagination the HAF can be turned into something awesome. Paint, decals etc. etc.
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xsss
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 11:40am |
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one thing I did to help decide my config was goto google videos and type in like HAF review and watch the video you can also do that for video cards ect.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 5:16pm |
you got some problems there give me your ticket number. you want to oc, that is a very big part of how powerfull your pc can be. |
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 7:47pm |
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I tweaked my setup....
what do you think?
Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors) Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: McAfee Internet Security (Includes: AntiVirus, FireWall and AntiSpyware) Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse) Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 7:56pm |
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give me your ticket number and the resolution you are going to be gaming at
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:05pm |
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Ticket Number: 241481
Not sure on the resolution really...currently my monitor is at 1920x1200....I have a 24inch WFP Dell...
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:12pm |
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hey give me back my monitor
 its a good one isn't  brb with your config 
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:18pm |
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go with this, its a much better system in the long run.
here you go Ticket# 241756 --- Price: $3038 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: CLEARANCE HOT SELLER: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair XMS3 Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU Liquid Color:UV Redish Pink: Medium Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty the liquid cooling should give you better OC speeds, plus if you upgrade later to a 965 or 975, liquid cooling will get you much further. your thoughts Edited by DST4ME - 04 Feb 2009 at 8:19pm |
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PatrickB
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:23pm |
975?!?!?! I hope thats a typo. |
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Q9550 @ 3.4Ghz for now
Xigmatek Thor's Hammer MSI P45 Neo2-fr 6gig 1066 Corsair Dominator XFX Radeon HD 4890 PC Power&Cooling 750W Seagate Barracuda 500Gb Antec 900 Vista 64bit |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:27pm |
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no, no typo, 975
Edited by DST4ME - 04 Feb 2009 at 8:28pm |
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:28pm |
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meh...its a great system but beyond the amount I want to pay...I do not care too much about OC...just the standard amount DS will provide using the original aircooler I selected. I think the gtx285 is a better bang for buck right now then the 295....my plan is too upgrade the PSU, graphics card, and processor as I need to over the course of several years..
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:44pm |
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well the price we can work on by moving things around, the 295 will easily out do the 285 in your resolution and with better fps comes a bit higher price.
also the PSU you don't upgrade, you wanna pay twice for a PSU why? bad idea, the PSU, you get something that allows for your future GPU upgrades, otherwise over time you are going to pay a lot more then you needed to. the 1000w will support a 295 now and one later too. or even 2 x 285, your 750 will need to be upgraded when you go sli. I don't think you understand the importance of OC, before your GPU, or anything else, your most important thing is speed, OC is will make a drastic difference to speed. You are talking about 2.66GHz vs 3.8GHz, that is a huge difference in everything you do with your PC, not sure how you don't see the importance. thats like the difference between 20mph and 100mph. so no LC: here you go Ticket# 241766 --- Price: $2868 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: CLEARANCE HOT SELLER: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair XMS3 Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors) Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty only $70 more but more powerful plus you still get another $150 off that price. |
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:50pm |
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good point about the PSU.
Lemme re-think the LC vs AC.....I admit I am new to overclocking and have not experienced the difference between a system that has and has not been overclocked.
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Winkdaddy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 8:52pm |
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What are the differences you can do with OC on air cooling vs. liquid cooling on the I7 920?
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DST4ME
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Posted: 04 Feb 2009 at 9:08pm |
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its hard to say, first key factor is the chip itself, some oc better then others no matter what you use but lc always gives you the shot at the highest oc.
I think the v8 is a perfect choice for you in this case, you can expect 3.5 to 3.8GHz oc speed. also don't forget you get another $150 off that price |
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