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    Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 2:19pm
I am making the switch from intel/nvidia to ati/amd is this a good idea for gaming???
 
here is the set up i am looking at please tell me what you think.
 
Digital storm950si Case
1200 watt thermaltake ( toughpower edition )
Amd phenom 9850 ( liquid cooled )
asus amd 790fx mb
8 gb 800mhz XMS2
150 gb raptor for  os
150 gb raptor for games
(2) ati 4870 crossfire ( liquid cooled )
64 bit vista
 
thoughts please thanks alot.
 
 
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Intel OCs better.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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What is your budget and goal (best PC for the money or best PC period). 
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both i am trying to build a pc that will last, games that i play is wow, warhammer online (beta) ,crysis, lotro online, guild wars, TF2, and many others. 
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Right now AMD and ATI are best for gaming on a budget. AMD quad processors run between $150 and $250 and the ATI 4870 costs about $300 each and are probably the best bang for the buck in the high end graphics card market.
 
Intel and Nvidia are best for overall performance but both can be costly. Intel quad core processors cost between $300 and $550.   Nvidia cards have 2 advantages. First they have the ability to be configured in tri or quad SLI. I dont think ATI cards can do that. Second they have the fastest card on the market right now (as far as I know) which is the GTX 280. the price of their high end cards (the GTX 260 and GTX 280) are $300 and $450? respectivly.
 
If you stay with the ATI cards I would down grade from liquid cooling to stage 3 cooling and would also downgrade the powersupply. ( I think those 2 cards together only require 600W). On the flip side though if you plan to upgrade your graphics cards in the future you may need more.
 
Someday games are going to require more space so I would consider getting a 3rd larger HD as well.
 
Good luck  Smile
 
 
  
 
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I agree with Harley, in that in not what company you buy from, but what you put in the case that matters. Your build looks pretty awesome to me, and I don't see any problems with it.

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Is the system dual loop cooled?
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Nope
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Let me ask you guys this how good is the Intel e8500 for gaming versus say a quad?  is the higher the clock speed better or no?
 
Would i need to liquid cool that chip? how high could i oc it to be stable with liq?
 
Does this chip have the mulit. to over clock it?
 
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The E8500 will be better for games that do not support multi threading. For games that can make use of more than 2 cores, obviously the quad will be better. IMO, if you don't want to go dual loop, you're better off doing CPU only and asking for a couple of highspeed fans to be added to the case for the motherboard and GPU's.
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The AMD processor with the ASUS mobo (790FX chipset) is often overclocked to between 3.4 and 3.6 with liquid cooling. The new chipset has a bit to do with the improved overclocking of phenom cpus. Still, for games like Crysis, Intel cpus are probably better performers. AMD has been focusing on cpus for the average consumer and is just now coming back to work on stuff for gamers and enthusiasts.
I still like ATI for vidcards tho.

P.S. Unless you wanna try out the new Intel i7 core (nehelem), there is also the option of waiting for the AMD Shanghai cpus (45nm). They run much cooler than current Phenoms and look to be solid overclocking chips. I saw a rumor that someone at AMD said shanghai would compete with i7... LOL.... well, I do think shanghai will compete with the current lineup of intel quad cores anyway and pricing looks good. AMD will need to wait for their next gen chips to compete with i7 tho.

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