Adobe Premiere WorkstationPost Date: 2021-09-27 |
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lucababini
Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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Topic: Adobe Premiere Workstation Posted: 27 Sep 2021 at 8:49pm |
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[7K] Expectations: [Fast Adobe premiere Video Editing] Usage: [Video and After Effects] Special Needs: [at least 4 6TB internal storage] Saved Ticket #: [Please Type Here] Specifications: [Specifications: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Studio Workstation Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i9-10980XE Extreme Edition (18-Core) (Boost Up to 4.6 GHz) Motherboard: ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore (Wi-Fi) (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E) (E-ATX) (No SLI) <br><strong></strong> System Memory: 128GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series <br><strong></strong> Power Supply: 1200W Silverstone / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold) <br><strong></strong> Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: - No Thanks Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 870 EVO) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 3: 4x Storage (6TB Seagate / Toshiba) <br><strong></strong> RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3070 8GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong> Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit) Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Office: - No Thanks Mouse Pad: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 14-21 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) ] |
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7330 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 3:18am |
If it matters, you are very far from the best CPU you can get for your use at a much better price. IMHO, the one you want is the new AMD 5950X. You will find it for sale in the "Desktop" section instead of "Workstation". Have a look:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10980XE-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X/m935899vs4086 It also compares well with the much more expensive 32 Core Threadripper: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-TR-3970X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X/m970030vs4086 Similar parts to everything else you selected can be found in the "Desktop" configuration, and come in as low as around $6300 with a 1TB Samsung 980 PRO primary drive, and depending on the motherboard you select. The 5950x runs on 60W less power, so cooler. It has a 64MB L3 cache vs the Intel 24.75MB. It turbos to 4.9 GHz vs 4.6, so faster even with 2 fewer cores. It enables the PCIe generation 4 bus which is 2x faster than PCIe Gen 3, so you can avail yourself of all the PCIe 4 storage options. The Samsung 980 Pros are some of the fastest NVMe SSDs anywhere. All the parts you might add down the line will be PCIe 4, including video. They will be backwards compatible to run on the slower bus, but gimped. Hope it helps you. |
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lucababini
Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 3:12pm |
OMG - Thank you so much for your help. Total rookie at this, always bought pre-packaged workstations but mostly did photoshop work now it's getting video editing intensive... So could I generate a configuration and post it here so you can check it and see if I am in a better place please?
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7330 |
Quote Reply Posted: 29 Sep 2021 at 3:54am |
Welcome to our Forum, and please let us have a look. There are better advisors for your specific use than I, by far.
These are unusual times. It's been a very long time since AMD competed at the high end with Intel. The newest "Zen 3" line from AMD has opened eyes to an exciting new landscape where choices matter again. If you are in no rush, a new line of Intel chips called Alder Lake may be out as soon as November to compete directly with the 5950X and all the Zen 3 chips. Edited by Cretae - 29 Sep 2021 at 4:01am |
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lucababini
Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: 29 Sep 2021 at 9:31am |
Thank you. Glad to get much needed pro advice. I need to buy the new station within the next 3 weeks or so...
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MrCheetah
Groupie Joined: 09 Mar 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 6:04pm |
From what I see, your chosen config is $6.895. After some comparison research, I came up with the following suggestion coming in at $6,833.
Config #: 4109833 Specifications: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (16-Core) 4.9 GHz Turbo Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero (Wi-Fi) (AMD X570 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI) System Memory: 128GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series Power Supply: 1200W Silverstone / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express) Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express) Storage Set 3: 4x Storage (6TB Seagate / Toshiba) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit) Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Explanation: For the most, reference here: Hardware Recommendations for Premiere Pro | Puget Systems CPU Even though Intel has Quick Sync video encoding and decoding using the iGPU/IGP to take some of the burden off of the standard CPU cores and GPU, it doesn't seem to do enough to overcome the Ryzen 5000 series advancements. As for the number of cores, more do help but there are diminishing returns as the workload distribution can only scale so far. Motherboard Unless you intend to go beyond 128GB of system memory, which I don't think you should need to within the life of the system, nor have multiple GPUs, there's little benefit to a workstation-class motherboard (and CPU). That's why I switched to DS's "Desktop" offerings. As for the specific choice here... I see you were willing/wanted to go big, which does typically equate to higher quality and more capable components, so it's not a bad idea. However, I stopped before the ROG Crosshair VIII Formula because you probably won't use it's biggest differences/advantages: water blocked VRM (requires custom cooling loop and built-in system info display. Storage Upgraded both M.2 drives to the latest NVMe. For the boot drive, you probably won't see any major difference but the cost is $50, not a budget bender/breaker. However, going from a SATA to PCI SSD as your scratch/cache disk should provide a noticeable improvement. Graphics Card Obviously, we all know about the market. So, it's extra important not to indulge. However, with the increased budget headroom from the other changes, you're able to get an RTX 3080. The 3070 isn't bad, but take a look at the "Video Card (GPU)" benchmarks in the article linked above. Out of the three showcased results, the 3080 comes in first place in one, second place in the next, and ends up in the expected third place (behind the 3090 and 3080 Ti) in the third. I know the following phrase would be laughed at in general right now, even so, the 3080 appears to be the best value for Premiere Pro. And as a productivity investment, it should be worthwhile, even with the extra premium pricing. |
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lucababini
Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 7:56pm |
Thank you! This is very useful and it makes lots of sense. I really appreciate your help. I'm going to FWD this to sales now. Thank you again. Luca
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7330 |
Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 3:33am |
Told you. There's one now. |
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lucababini
Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 3:04pm |
But you started it... and thank you again
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7330 |
Quote Reply Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 3:02am |
We are very happy to help. You are welcome anytime.
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