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    Posted: 27 Sep 2021 at 8:49pm
Budget:
[7K]

Expectations:
[Fast Adobe premiere Video Editing]

Usage:
[Video and After Effects]

Special Needs:
[at least 4 6TB internal storage]

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Specifications:
[Specifications:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Studio Workstation
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-10980XE Extreme Edition (18-Core) (Boost Up to 4.6 GHz)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore (Wi-Fi) (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E) (E-ATX) (No SLI) <br><strong></strong>
System Memory: 128GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 1200W Silverstone / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold) <br><strong></strong>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 870 EVO) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: 4x Storage (6TB Seagate / Toshiba) <br><strong></strong>
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3070 8GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 14-21 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 3:18am
If it matters, you are very far from the best CPU you can get for your use at a much better price. IMHO, the one you want is the new AMD 5950X. You will find it for sale in the "Desktop" section instead of "Workstation". Have a look:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10980XE-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X/m935899vs4086

It also compares well with the much more expensive 32 Core Threadripper:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-TR-3970X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X/m970030vs4086

Similar parts to everything else you selected can be found in the "Desktop" configuration, and come in as low as around $6300 with a 1TB Samsung 980 PRO primary drive, and depending on the motherboard you select.

The 5950x runs on 60W less power, so cooler. It has a 64MB L3 cache vs the Intel 24.75MB. It turbos to 4.9 GHz vs 4.6, so faster even with 2 fewer cores. It enables the PCIe generation 4 bus which is 2x faster than PCIe Gen 3, so you can avail yourself of all the PCIe 4 storage options. The Samsung 980 Pros are some of the fastest NVMe SSDs anywhere. All the parts you might add down the line will be PCIe 4, including video. They will be backwards compatible to run on the slower bus, but gimped.

Hope it helps you.
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  Quote lucababini Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 3:12pm
OMG - Thank you so much for your help. Total rookie at this, always bought pre-packaged workstations but mostly did photoshop work now it's getting video editing intensive... So could I generate a configuration and post it here so you can check it and see if I am in a better place please?
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Sep 2021 at 3:54am
Welcome to our Forum, and please let us have a look. There are better advisors for your specific use than I, by far.

These are unusual times. It's been a very long time since AMD competed at the high end with Intel. The newest "Zen 3" line from AMD has opened eyes to an exciting new landscape where choices matter again.

If you are in no rush, a new line of Intel chips called Alder Lake may be out as soon as November to compete directly with the 5950X and all the Zen 3 chips.

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  Quote lucababini Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Sep 2021 at 9:31am
Thank you. Glad to get much needed pro advice. I need to buy the new station within the next 3 weeks or so...
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 6:04pm
From what I see, your chosen config is $6.895. After some comparison research, I came up with the following suggestion coming in at $6,833.

Config #: 4109833

Specifications:

Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (16-Core) 4.9 GHz Turbo
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero (Wi-Fi) (AMD X570 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI)
System Memory: 128GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 1200W Silverstone / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 3: 4x Storage (6TB Seagate / Toshiba)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)

Explanation:

For the most, reference here:

Hardware Recommendations for Premiere Pro | Puget Systems

CPU

Even though Intel has Quick Sync video encoding and decoding using the iGPU/IGP to take some of the burden off of the standard CPU cores and GPU, it doesn't seem to do enough to overcome the Ryzen 5000 series advancements. As for the number of cores, more do help but there are diminishing returns as the workload distribution can only scale so far.

Motherboard

Unless you intend to go beyond 128GB of system memory, which I don't think you should need to within the life of the system, nor have multiple GPUs, there's little benefit to a workstation-class motherboard (and CPU). That's why I switched to DS's "Desktop" offerings. As for the specific choice here... I see you were willing/wanted to go big, which does typically equate to higher quality and more capable components, so it's not a bad idea. However, I stopped before the ROG Crosshair VIII Formula because you probably won't use it's biggest differences/advantages: water blocked VRM (requires custom cooling loop and built-in system info display.

Storage

Upgraded both M.2 drives to the latest NVMe. For the boot drive, you probably won't see any major difference but the cost is $50, not a budget bender/breaker. However, going from a SATA to PCI SSD as your scratch/cache disk should provide a noticeable improvement.

Graphics Card

Obviously, we all know about the market. So, it's extra important not to indulge. However, with the increased budget headroom from the other changes, you're able to get an RTX 3080. The 3070 isn't bad, but take a look at the "Video Card (GPU)" benchmarks in the article linked above. Out of the three showcased results, the 3080 comes in first place in one, second place in the next, and ends up in the expected third place (behind the 3090 and 3080 Ti) in the third. I know the following phrase would be laughed at in general right now, even so, the 3080 appears to be the best value for Premiere Pro. And as a productivity investment, it should be worthwhile, even with the extra premium pricing.
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  Quote lucababini Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 7:56pm
Thank you! This is very useful and it makes lots of sense. I really appreciate your help. I'm going to FWD this to sales now. Thank you again. Luca
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 3:33am
Originally posted by Cretae

Welcome to our Forum, and please let us have a look. There are better advisors for your specific use than I, by far.

Told you. There's one now.
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  Quote lucababini Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 3:04pm
But you started it... and thank you again
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We are very happy to help. You are welcome anytime.
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