FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Advice on build please

Post Date: 2011-03-28
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Advice on build please
    Posted: 28 Mar 2011 at 11:29pm
-Budget around $4000, but looking for some opinions on setup to get it lower.

-I will have 2 monitors 1080p, but will game on one monitor, second is just for when I work

-Will be used mostly for gaming

This build is just a starting point, suggestions are greatly appreciated:

Ticket Number: 510352
Total Price with Instant Savings: $4,096.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=510352

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 2GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards
H20 Tube Color:White Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.5GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: FREE: Hot-selling game with a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or above graphics card
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Small)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Just a few questions...

Is it bad to go with gtx 590?  If i do, would that count as single card LC or duel since its 2 cards in one?  Should I stick with the 570's?

Do I really really need LC for the graphics cards?  I want to try and get some sort of LC, but I'm debating if I need it on the graphic cards.

Also I only chose 2gb of ram bc I was going to purchase some from newegg, I can take the 2gb out of the price if I tell them too correct?

Lastly, I'll prob wait for g3 ssd's so that'll be in there too.

Anymore advice is greatly appreciated, thanks guys.
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 12:28am
590 is in internal sli, this means they have less performance and more heat then 2 single cards in sli, so 2 single cards is always the best option.

you don't need LC on anything, but its great to have IMO, plus 90% of the noise comes from your gpu's fans when under load, with LC they are not there, you still got the noise from the rad fans, but if you customize a bit you can make the LC system a great quiet performer.

I belive they can take out the ram but then I'm not sure how they will go about doing your oc, IMHO with your budget, its best you get 4GB here and add 4GB later yourself, so that you have your ram settings and can just follow what is already there.

gen 3 are out, looks like the same performance as gen 2, some areas better but the price is the most attractive, you get gen2 performance or better at a lower price.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 9:49am
Thanks so much for the reply,  I will stick with the sli and add the RAM as well.

by customize, do you mean adjust fan speeds?

Also, what are the new ssds called, i'm confused with all the 310, 320, 510's i see.

Thanks


Edited by peteyfresh12 - 29 Mar 2011 at 9:56am
Back to Top
justin.kerr View Drop Down
DS Veteran
DS Veteran

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 06 May 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5084 		  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 10:28am
IMHO you are asking for a huge potential problem with the RAM, I would get 8Gb from Digital storm and call it good, the money you save buy getting some at newegg will not cover your frustrations/problems down the road. unless you are familiar with adjusting RAM timings, BIOS voltages, and running CPU/RAM stress tests.
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 10:36am
thank you for the advice, I'll add that in Big%20Smile
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by peteyfresh12


Thanks so much for the reply,  I will stick with the sli and add the RAM as well.by customize, do you mean adjust fan speeds?Also, what are the new ssds called, i'm confused with all the 310, 320, 510's i see.Thanks


You can always just call DS and have them help you add the new ram if you don't feel comfortable, or add it now as justin said.

the intel ssd you want is the 320, the bigger they are the better their speeds.

buy customizing teh LC system I mean telling them to use particular rads and fans.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 10:42pm
Would there be any recommendations you'd be willing to sure with me on the rads and fans? 

I greatly appreciate it, you've been of much help. 
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 2:09am
sure both me and justin like triple rad for cpu and gpus.

but you decide if you want single/double or triple, triple should give you best temps but for mild oc, double or triple should be good to go.

for rad you want to ask for xspc rx series rad or feser, then you put Scythe gentle typhoon fans on them, this should equal to a quiet LC system that performs well.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 8:42am
Thanks!  In your pic i noticed you had the rad in the back outside of case.  Is that something that you just wanted, if i get stage 6 will all rads fit into the case? 

Just not exactly sure how they do the LCS.


Edited by peteyfresh12 - 30 Mar 2011 at 8:42am
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 1:11pm
I have triple 120mm feser rad on the inside top for the cpu and then you see the triple 140mm rad for the four gpus.

I'm not sure what size rads stage 6 comes in, I believe you get smaller rads so they should fit inside of your case, but if you want two triple rads, then one has to go outside, as there will be no room.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
justin.kerr View Drop Down
DS Veteran
DS Veteran

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 06 May 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5084 		  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 2:59pm
I like a dual/ or double radiator per GPU, as a minimum. Big%20Smile I am still kicking myself for not running dual quad radiators for my 3 GPU's, dual triples are just not adequate, without turning the fans to 1200-1300 RPM. Upset when overclocked 30%. lol
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 3:00pm
That about sums it all up, thank you so much for your help guys.
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 3:38pm
Can't really argue with more/bigger rads for better temps


Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 5:42pm
So if i go sli, i should get the triples up top, and 2 doubles for video cards?
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 1:10am
IMHO for your use, a triple for cpu and a triple for dual sli gpu is plenty. for tri sli and higher I would start to look at quad or dual quad.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 9:19am
Sweet, thanks guys..you've been of much help i appreciate it.....now to just wait for the ssd'sSad
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 6:35pm
You don't have to wait, you can always add that in later yourself, easy to do.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 8:49pm
True true, but then I gotta reinstall everything, install.  Not too much of a hassle, but still lol
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 2:09am
NO NO, no reason to reinstall, to move the os/apps/everything in one shot, you just clone the current drive to the ssd, make sure the clone works and then use the ssd for HDD1 and push the current drive to HDD2 for storage.

I upgrade my drives all the time without reinstall, who has the time to redo everything.

you can follow my clone guide here

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 8:05am
And i thought i knew computers lol, thanks a lot DST you've been of much help to me and thank you justin as well i appreciate all your responses
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:29pm
Our pleasure and good luck

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
peteyfresh12 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		  Quote peteyfresh12 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:04am
Hey, I found this card,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127564&cm_re=GTX_570-_-14-127-564-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3754110&SID=skim1132X509988X3e0a43cc5d2d6281c2f34149b7042024

I decided to do LC just for cpu because of future upgrades of gpu.  I'm gonna sli them, but is this card good?  I was wondering if its problematic to DS if I selected ill install my gpu's.  do they do anything special, or can i just do it myself?  thanks
Back to Top
DST4ME View Drop Down
DS ELITE
DS ELITE

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:01am
I like evga better, don't know much about that card, I'm not sure, but I don't think you should have any problem doing sli with it.

you can install your own gpu/s, thats not a problem.

but if I'm not mistaken, the difference is not much tho and with them testing it/installing it, IMO is better then getting your cards and having them be doa or having to rma one or both.

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Apr 2011 at 2:02am

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.078125 seconds.