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    Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 6:23am
Budget:
5500

Expectations:
Hi Performance, long lasting configuration, needs to support Dual Monitor Dell 30" 10bit 2560x1600 Each

Usage:
Linux based, Photo/Video Work, running Windows for selected apps in Virtual Box

Special Needs:
Multiple Drive for storage, good cooling - System will be in Philippines air conditioned space but, it is Philippines :)

This is my first purchase I am trying to decide on with Digital Storm. I've already decided based on my research that Digital Storm is the best way to go, so now trying to narrow it down. This system needs to last a while. I built my current one in 2011, so it's time. :)

I have two configurations I'm trying to decide between. The first is a Workstation type config using an i9-9940x with a motherboard supporting up to 8 Sata ports. The second is the i9-9900K supporting up to 6 Sata Ports.

I want to have the most drive space I can without resorting to external chassis, but I am also concerned about cooling this beast. It will be in the Philippines long term and even though it will be in an air conditioned room, it will be warm. Not sure if the Aventum would provide that much better cooling possibility than the Antec case if I max out the fans and use the same Hydrolux cooling.

Any thoughts or advice is welcome. Thank you in advance.

Specifications:
Configuation #1
Chassis Model: Antec Performance Series P101 PRO
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-9940X (14-Core) 3.30 GHz
Motherboard: MSI X299 RAIDER (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 64GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Fully Modular) (80 Plus Gold) <br><strong></strong>
Expansion Bay: External USB Digital Media Card Reader <br><strong></strong>
Optical Drive: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Internal) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 970 EVO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (4TB Western Digital - Ultrastar Data Center Edition) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2060 6GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux LITE: Integrated Cooling System (CPU Only) <br><strong></strong>
HydroLux Tubing Style: Flexible Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System) <br><strong></strong>
HydroLux Fluid Color: Red Fluid + Clear Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System) <br><strong></strong>
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - Red - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) <br><strong></strong>
Chassis Fans: Corsair LED Airflow Performance Edition (White) Fans <br><strong></strong>
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only) <br><strong></strong>
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Ubuntu Desktop (Linux) (No Software Support Provided) <br><strong></strong>
Recovery Tools: - No Thanks <br><strong></strong>
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set <br><strong></strong>
Keyboard: Digital Storm Devastator Bundle (RGB) Keyboard & Mouse <br><strong></strong>
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 15-20 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

Configuration Choice #2
Chassis Model: Aventum X
Exterior Finish: Black Metallic Matte Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix Z390-H Gaming (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 64GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Fully Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: External USB Digital Media Card Reader <br><strong></strong>
Optical Drive: External USB - Blu-Ray Writer & Player (Blu-Ray 6x) & DVD/CD Writer <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Digital Storm M.2 Performance Series)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (4TB Western Digital - Ultrastar Data Center Edition) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2060 6GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux PRO: Exotic Custom Cooling System (CPU Only)
HydroLux Tubing Style: Flexible Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)
HydroLux Fluid Color: Red Fluid + Clear Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System) <br><strong></strong>
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - Red - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) <br><strong></strong>
Chassis Fans: Corsair HD Series (RGB) (14 Fans Total) <br><strong></strong>
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks <br><strong></strong>
Airflow Control: - No Thanks <br><strong></strong>
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Ubuntu Desktop (Linux) (No Software Support Provided) <br><strong></strong>
Recovery Tools: - No Thanks <br><strong></strong>
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set <br><strong></strong>
Keyboard: Digital Storm Devastator Bundle (RGB) Keyboard & Mouse <br><strong></strong>
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 20-25 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 2:04pm
Welcome to the DS forum DMCorsa !

No comparison...you would be better served by the DS designed case Aventum X build for its top of the line custom cooling, especially in the tropics.   The Aventum cooling includes a whopping 14 case fans and 3 huge radiators.    

GPU. I see you downplay the GPU a bit for emphasis on the CPU and the storage capacities.     While the RTX 2060 should work fine in using dual Dell 30” 2560 x 1600 displays, the question is how well when using your particular applications.     I’d feel more certain using the stronger all around mid range champ RTX 2070, and then you could take advantage of that huge cooling loop in the Aventum to include that better GPU and the CPU in the lHydroLux Pro loop.    The RTX 2060 can’t be liquid cooled.    Would seem to be smart in that PI heat and humidity to also liquid cool your GPU.


CPU...You are in the best case with the best possible cooling...consider a Stage 1 or Stage 2 Overclock for that top line 8 core 16 thread I9-9900X CPU.    Intel makes the K and X Series processors to be overclocked.     Get all of the performance your CPU can deliver, all of the time....you should definitely Overclock the CPU for best performance.    You have ample cooling to easily go Stage 2.    
Stage 1 is free...Stage 2 is just $99.


Storage.    The big Aventum X case has the room you need for multiple drives.    Many PC cases have nearly eliminated most of their 5.25 drive bays for limited HDD and SSD space on the backplanes.    Aventum X still has all the full sized easy access drive bays you seem to require.     One change I would suggest is that your excellent ASUS Strix -H Z390 motherboard has 2 Slots for M.2 SSD drives.    There are two types of M.2 drives, and you have selected a standard SATA 3. 6gbps M.2 SSD Drive 1.     That would actually use up one of the 6 SATA bus ports.     Change that Drive 1 selection to a Samsung Evo M.2 NVME SSD .    M.2 NVME uses the graphics PCIE bus for 5X faster speeds, and there are two M.2 NVME slots to utilize that do not share the SATA bus, so you could have two M.2 NVME SSD’s and still have all 6 SATA3 ports available.    If you could use more fast M.2 NVME slots, then switch motherboards to the MSI Z390 Godlike and that board actually has three M.2 NVME slots and 6 SATA3 ports.

Fans.    In a 14 fan Aventum case, this is pretty important.    You could improve fan performance and bearing longevity by upgrading to the better Corsair LL Series or the top of line ML Series RGB fans.     The ML have Magnetic Levitation bearings for longest life expectancy.    They do look very different, as the LL has a dual RGB LED loop on the hub and the outer ring....while the HD and ML Series just light up the outer ring.    You will download and use the excellent Corsair iCue software to control the RGB lighting.

See what you think, or tinker to improve.   Either way you came to the right pc builder.    I have ordered 4 DS rigs since 2011 and all are still in use and never fail to impress.    

Edited by HockeyBuck - 05 Jun 2019 at 2:11pm
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  Quote DMCorsa Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 3:20am
Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Welcome to the DS forum DMCorsa !

No comparison...you would be better served by the DS designed case Aventum X build for its top of the line custom cooling, especially in the tropics.   The Aventum cooling includes a whopping 14 case fans and 3 huge radiators.    

GPU. I see you downplay the GPU a bit for emphasis on the CPU and the storage capacities.     While the RTX 2060 should work fine in using dual Dell 30” 2560 x 1600 displays, the question is how well when using your particular applications.     I’d feel more certain using the stronger all around mid range champ RTX 2070, and then you could take advantage of that huge cooling loop in the Aventum to include that better GPU and the CPU in the lHydroLux Pro loop.    The RTX 2060 can’t be liquid cooled.    Would seem to be smart in that PI heat and humidity to also liquid cool your GPU.


CPU...You are in the best case with the best possible cooling...consider a Stage 1 or Stage 2 Overclock for that top line 8 core 16 thread I9-9900X CPU.    Intel makes the K and X Series processors to be overclocked.     Get all of the performance your CPU can deliver, all of the time....you should definitely Overclock the CPU for best performance.    You have ample cooling to easily go Stage 2.    
Stage 1 is free...Stage 2 is just $99.


Storage.    The big Aventum X case has the room you need for multiple drives.    Many PC cases have nearly eliminated most of their 5.25 drive bays for limited HDD and SSD space on the backplanes.    Aventum X still has all the full sized easy access drive bays you seem to require.     One change I would suggest is that your excellent ASUS Strix -H Z390 motherboard has 2 Slots for M.2 SSD drives.    There are two types of M.2 drives, and you have selected a standard SATA 3. 6gbps M.2 SSD Drive 1.     That would actually use up one of the 6 SATA bus ports.     Change that Drive 1 selection to a Samsung Evo M.2 NVME SSD .    M.2 NVME uses the graphics PCIE bus for 5X faster speeds, and there are two M.2 NVME slots to utilize that do not share the SATA bus, so you could have two M.2 NVME SSD’s and still have all 6 SATA3 ports available.    If you could use more fast M.2 NVME slots, then switch motherboards to the MSI Z390 Godlike and that board actually has three M.2 NVME slots and 6 SATA3 ports.

Fans.    In a 14 fan Aventum case, this is pretty important.    You could improve fan performance and bearing longevity by upgrading to the better Corsair LL Series or the top of line ML Series RGB fans.     The ML have Magnetic Levitation bearings for longest life expectancy.    They do look very different, as the LL has a dual RGB LED loop on the hub and the outer ring....while the HD and ML Series just light up the outer ring.    You will download and use the excellent Corsair iCue software to control the RGB lighting.

See what you think, or tinker to improve.   Either way you came to the right pc builder.    I have ordered 4 DS rigs since 2011 and all are still in use and never fail to impress.    


Thank you so much for the great detailed analysis and advice. I had a feeling the Aventum was the way to go, was hoping to save a little coin as this will go over my budget, but I also want the best, as most folks do. I spec'd out both the 9900X and the 9900K using the advice and the X is within $400 of the K, so in my mind given how long I intend to keep the system I will most likely opt for the 9900X option. I've put that config below with a couple tweaks to your thoughts. Please let me know if I'm about to make a bad choice somewhere. I like using the NVM drive to keep the full 8 Sata ports available for use.

Chassis Model: Aventum X
Exterior Finish: Black Metallic Matte Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-9900X (10-Core) 3.50GHz
Motherboard: MSI X299 RAIDER (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 64GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Fully Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: External USB Digital Media Card Reader
Optical Drive: External USB - Blu-Ray Writer & Player (Blu-Ray 6x) & DVD/CD Writer
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (512GB Samsung 970 PRO) (NVM Express) (Extreme Performance)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (4TB Western Digital - Ultrastar Data Center Edition) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2070 8GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux PRO: Exotic Custom Cooling System (1x Graphics Card + CPU)
HydroLux Tubing Style: Flexible Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)
HydroLux Fluid Color: Red Fluid + Clear Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - Red - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables)
Chassis Fans: Corsair ML PRO Series (14 Fans Total) (High Static Pressure) (Magnetic Levitation)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.5GHz via Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Ubuntu Desktop (Linux) (No Software Support Provided)
Recovery Tools: - No Thanks
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set
Keyboard: Digital Storm Devastator Bundle (RGB) Keyboard & Mouse
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 20-25 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 12:51pm
This strong Aventum i9-9900X rig will be quite a processing beast for many years to come!    10 cores and 20 threads with a Stage 1 overclock is a ton of CPU power. DS rigs are works of tech art, so make sure it’s got a big space worthy of some showing off!     Forgot to mention they offer a quite inexpensive red/white/or blue case color option for just $99.    Aventum builds ship in enormous wooden crates, so even it’s arrival will be quite impressive...lol.

Good idea moving to the X299 motherboard for its 2 x M.2 NVME + 8 x SATA3 storage.    I would suggest changing up from the entry level MSI Raider board to a little better motherboard, more appropriate for this powerful Aventum build ...Asus Prime, MSI Carbon or my fav go-to the Asus Strix.   All would have the same number of storage ports, but adding the visible numeric Q-Code lcd to the board is a time saver worth the extra ... makes problem diagnostics a bit easier to figure out quickly.   Carbon and Strix also have on board WiFi and will use better capacitors.

I would also suggest upgrading to the very best Corsair AX1200i digital modular Platinum efficiency PSU to power this beast.     I own one of these in a 2011 DS X99 build and it’s outstanding, and carries a huge 7 yr Corsair warranty.

You also have a second fast M.2 NVME port on your motherboard yet to utilize, but you could easily buy one later and add that in yourself.   M.2 just plugs into a socket on one end, and one screw secures it down onto the motherboard.   Amazing how small up to 2 TB of storage can be.   

Ask DS to provide an extra bottle or two of coolant.   You will need to top off the reservoir to compensate for normal loss from evaporation once in a while.    I would expect in the Philippines tropical climate that might happen a bit sooner than it would here.

Let us know how it goes for you.    Looking forward to you sharing photos with us here on the forum when this beauty arrives!   

Edited by HockeyBuck - 06 Jun 2019 at 12:52pm
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Cool, thank you for the added information. I'll make some tweaks, and see where I end up.
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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 5:49pm
Congratulations and welcome. You have been given excellent advise by HockeyBuck and will be super wowed when you get your system. With the Hydrolux PRO I always suggest you special order that DS install a drain valve in the coolant loop. It will come in very handy if you have to drain the coolant for any reason.
Do as HockeyBuck stated and get extra bottles of coolant. You will be happy you have them.
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  Quote SnowandSand Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 12:13pm
Depending on how long you can wait you may want to wait till AMD launchs the R9 3900x 12 core processor. I am assuming that will be a cheaper yet still great performing CPU at least by what has been said so far from Computex. but either way the Aventum X is a beast of a PC
Hailstorm II
R7 2700x
16GB Team Dark Pro @ 3200 CL14
Asus x470 CH VII Hero
Corsair Hx1000i 1000W PSU
250GB Samsung 850 EVO
1TB & 6TB WD - Black Edition
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