Advice on combination HTPC and Steam BoxPost Date: 2013-11-24 |
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Bedwyr
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Topic: Advice on combination HTPC and Steam BoxPosted: 24 Nov 2013 at 6:02pm |
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roughly $1000 - $1500. Can go higher if definitely necessary. Expectations: - A system that should at least keep up with the next-gen consoles. - I am primarily a Steam gamer (some GoG fun) and would like to use this as my Steam Box hooked to a newer 46" 1080p TV. - The Bolt form factor is one of the candidates. - I'm rather assuming that 16gb ram would reasonably future proof the system against the optimized methods the consoles use in their systems. - Already have wireless 360 controller and MK70 Logitech keyboard and mouse. I'm soliciting other ideas for comfortable living room control, but they are not part of the budget. Usage: - Living room HTPC machine running XBMC or Plex - Watching disc and streaming movies in HD - Light computing - Heavy gaming, mostly via Steam. Assume primarily RPGs and strategy titles. Very big fan of Bethesda's offerings including fan mods. Special Needs: - [Mostly Optional] System should lie flat and be less than 150mm. - [Optional] Not offered by Digital Storm as far as I know, but if there is a good solution to remote power-on (IR remote essentially) in a small form factor and that doesn't take up precious controller/keybaord/mouse USB space, I'm all ears. Otherwise, not entirely too critical. - [Optional] It's not impossible that I might try and boot a Hackintosh. I've specced out one or two mini-ITX builds on Amazon that the Customac site thinks will work well (they like the GA-Z87N-WIFI). The Bolt form factor looks far far better than what I could build myself, though. And this is increasingly an idle thought. My main wish would be the ability to boot Linux Mint and have reasonable driver support. Saved Ticket #: n/a Specifications: - Definitely looking for Haswell architecture. I generally prefer nVidia GPUs since dual-booting - I have an older 1TB WD Caviar Green HDD (WD10EADS). Is this a reasonable secondary drive? Thanks for your help. Bedwyr |
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Bedwyr
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 9:50am |
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Here is one potential configuration I was looking at:
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bprat22
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:12am |
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Hi Bedwyr... I haven't been ignoring you
The Haswell chip, overclocked to stage 1 , is one of the latest, and the gtx 650Ti boost will game real nice. You have the cpu covered and I would get the best video card budget allows. The gtx 760 would give you about 50% better frames but that's if the budget allows.
Here's a link comparing the two cards, on various monitors resolution. Not sure the resolution you have.
Not sure this helps, but maybe others can chime in.
Just noticed you did mention a 1080p monitor/tv. That link should give you some idea of what to expect. Edited by bprat22 - 25 Nov 2013 at 10:14am |
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bprat22
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:19am |
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If you drop to 8g ram, the saved money would enable you to go to the gtx 760 for much better gaming. 8Gb is all the ram you need for pc gaming, Consoles and pc's use ram entirely different. One doesn't relate to the other.
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Bedwyr
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:26am |
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Oh no problem at all. I just wanted to throw all of my mixed ideas into the configuration choice. I'm pretty sure I'll be running Steam through an XBMC overlay at boot (or something simpler if friends have trouble with XBMC).
One of my concerns is that the PS4 and XBOne both have 8gb ram but pipe it in certain advantageous ways that developers will take advantage of in coming years. Maintaining, say, 30-40 fps avg during this time would be optimal. So would it be worth backing off 16gb and upgrading the 650 ti? The weird special needs are absolutely nice-to-haves and not need-to-haves. I simply have a copy of Snow Leopard sitting on my shelf and it might be fun to see if I can get Mavericks running on the system. Likewise I've seen a few power-on solutions around but none that truly integrate with a universal remote. It's not a big deal. |
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:32am |
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Adding ram is pretty easy if the need ever came up. But, the Bolt's motherboards only has 2 ram slots, vs 4 ram slots for larger boards, so you couldn't just add ram, but would have to replace with larger sticks. Just a heads-up on that.
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:39am |
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Too bad you couldn't fit in a larger case. The Vanquish 4 for $350 less, would give you the same Haswell chip, oc'd, the better gtx 770 over even the gtx 760, but a smaller SSD. The Vanquish 4 is a lot of gaming for the money.
Just a thought in case any space frees up.
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Bedwyr
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:49am |
Advice taken, thank you. If it helps to clarify, what I was referring to was this: http://www.simerec.com/ Or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_IR on a motherboard or some add-on. I was researching it for my own build and decided I'd rather save space. As to "Hackintosh", it's just an attempt to run Apple's OSX on your own machine. There are ways. |
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 10:57am |
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Thanks. I'm gonna read up on that later. Might have to learn something today.
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 11:00am |
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http://www.tonymacx86.com/section/295-customac.html
Might be another good hobby resource. |
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Bedwyr
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 11:38am |
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Totally forgot to ask: Do you get both OS activation key and the media with your purchase?
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Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 11:45am |
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Yep. The activation key is usually on a sticker on the outside of one of the panels and the OS disc is included for Repair, Re-install, etc.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 8:53am |
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Ok, I got one more question and this one is for dual-booters.
What would be a good and safe configuration for dual-booting Linux with Win8? The issue I'm thinking of would be primarily the Linux swap partition and the potential for SSD thrashing once system memory is under a peak load. I could stick with 16GB in ram combined with a single SSD and the OS will likely rarely use swap or I could stick with 8GB and a combination of drives, placing the swap partition on HDD. Any preference for people who dual boot? Thank you. |
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Posted: 28 Nov 2013 at 6:15am |
Not installing either as UEFI or make sure that neither OS mounts the other's partition(s). I found that they would do something to the other partition when they did mount it that would cause the other one to get corrupted. Though, that was with Windows 7 and Ubuntu, so your mileage may very. Edited by danjw1 - 28 Nov 2013 at 6:20am |
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