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    Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 7:38pm
 So, I'm an avid gamer, WarcraftIII & StarcraftII being the main ones atm. My budget is around 1500.oo though I'm willing to go up or down a bit. Looking for something with a couple of musts: 1)Must have quad core processor or better 2) Must have a great graphics card (I'm a fan of Nvidia.) I've thought about doing one of those bare-bone kits but I haven't the time or the patience to put it together myself. Any suggestions will be most welcome Big%20Smile
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  Quote Stormy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 7:40pm
Oh and I'd like to add that I don't need a monitor although I probably will be getting a new keyboard and mouse.
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What is your current monitor's maximum resolution?
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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 7:47pm
1500 will be a tough one but can be done, you will be using the old i7 line (i7 860) which runs on the p55 platform. also with not a huge resolution.

1800 will get you a i7 930 running of the current x58 platform and we can get you to run most resolutions

so we need your budget on what your willing to spend

we need your resolution you will be gaming at to give you the correct gpu

we already know your use

once we know all this informationw e can make you a build
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 9:56pm
we are actually working on a very very similar request right here stormy


dont listen to some... people. you can game close to $1500 with no problem

and you can play at 1920x1080, though it wont be with max AA/AF, it will still look fantastic

 

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why dont you explain why 1156 is so much worse than 1336

 


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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 10:05pm
I'm tempted to do it myself. HahahaThere is so much about the socket 1156 that I dislike. But if you stick to single GPU setups it works good for a gaming rig, so whatever, beats the hell out of getting an AMD rig at least.

Edited by Alex - 14 Aug 2010 at 3:55am
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 10:10pm
no its ok go ahead, for someone on a budget who wants to build a gaming rig, why should they go to 1336

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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 10:40pm
Originally posted by !ender_

no its ok go ahead, for someone on a budget who wants to build a gaming rig, why should they go to 1336

Because all other things being equal, there's only a $110 difference between the two? Sad

P55 system
Ticket #432026, Price: $1489

X58 system
Ticket #432027, Price: $1599

If that $110 difference is make or break for being able to get a rig or not and the only way you have left to trim down the price is to step down to a P55 system then by all means go for it, certainly better not being able to get one or stepping down to an AMD system, but I really hate to see someone unable to get a X58 system when it is so little more.

(And hell if you really wanted to you could drop a X58 system down to 3GB of memory to make the difference only $51.)
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  Quote Stormy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2010 at 11:46pm
I think I'd rather pay the 110 and get the better system I'm currently running at 1440x900 but I'm sure I'll be able to run it higher once I get a newer graphics card. Got a giggle out of your little "debate", nice to know you guys come with entertainment Wink btw I would love it if it could come in an awesome looking package (I'm a big fan of red) Lets see what you boys come up with...Can't wait!
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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 1:11am
first off the p55 is good for single gpu solutions while the x58 is meant for multi gpu solutions. yes the p55 can run dual sli but it has problems with tri for exampleanother reason is the p55 socket chips support dual channel  a ram. while x58 does tripple channel the x58 chips also have better architecture and have better possibilities here ya go just for starters, yes i can admit people can explain thing better then i can and also have superior knowledge. the majority of things i know have come from the forums and some from personal research. why am i helping good question, i am totally fascinated by computers and i answer the questions i know from what i have learned, if i am wrong correct me instead of being rude and pompous. unfortunately i do not have the ability to go to school and learn to do what i love since i don't know the first place to start looking(hardware, computers also building of them). so you know what i may not know every detail about a product under the sun but at least i try and i do my best and work hard doing it, that is something that you have forgotten and you take for granted. pointing in the direction of schools or the degrees needed or sharing good places to get good in depth information unlike what i have been able to find would have been the better way about it.


Edited by Alex - 14 Aug 2010 at 3:47am
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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 1:38am
Known by the codename Lynnfield and presented on an LGA1156 form factor - which means they won't work in present X58 chipset-based boards - the incumbent Bloomfield (LGA1366) architecture is kept intact, for the most part. All chips are based on a monolithic quad-core design, manufactured on a 45nm process, and ship with 1MB L2 and 8MB of shared L3 cache. Further similarities extend to the feature-set, which includes SSE4.2 support, Intel SpeedStep Technology and 64-bit operation. Hyperthreading, too, is present on all chips bar the entry-level Lynnfield.

From an architecture point of view, Lynnfield chips will interface with the system via a DMI (Direct Media Interface) conduit rather than QPI found on Bloomfield. QPI has greater bandwidth and provides processor-to-processor support in a multi-socketed system. Lynnfield is aimed squarely at the client market and the substituting of DMI for QPI should make little performance difference.

Adding in a neat trick, Intel is plumbing 16 PCI-Express lanes - used primarily for graphics - right into the new chips, rather than have a separate bridge handle the duties. What this means is that the chips' supporting core-logic, P55, doesn't require an IOH bridge, as found on X58 boards.

Current Bloomfield chips use a tri-channel memory-controller that provides excellent bandwidth.  testing has shown that the processors are relatively memory-agnostic, working almost as well in dual-channel mode - helped on, no doubt, by the large 8MB of L3 cache. Lynnfield drops the third memory channel and runs a regular dual-channel memory setup.

The Turbo Boost feature has been enhanced for Lynnfield. The premise behind it is to ensure that compute power is kept to a maximum as long as it fits inside the chip's TDP.  Bloomfield chips can increase their frequency by one 'multiplier' (133MHz) if running all four cores, and by two for applications taking advantage of one or two cores. Lynnfield increases four-core load by two steps (266MHz), dual-core processing by four steps (533MHz) and single-core usage by five steps (666MHz). That's impressive overclocks considering the 95W TDP.

Evaluated on a clock-for-clock basis, Lynnfield chips lose a little speed, due to a lack of a third memory channel and QPI, but introduce a more-robust Turbo Boost feature that's inextricably allied to a lower power-draw.

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Edited by Raif - 14 Aug 2010 at 1:48am
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 3:54am
I just wanted to chime in and clear the air about the heated discussion above.

It's great having discussions about various options and platforms that an individual can select, but, there is a fine line between a professional conversation than directly disrespecting each other.

Ultimately, we're all here to learn new things and converse together. Everyone deserves the freedom to chime in and help or voice their opinion about what they know or read up on. The end result should always be a positive outcome where we provide the best answers/advice to someone that needs help.

Finishing off, let's please stay along those lines, if we can't I would hate to moderate any users that go against this.

@Stormy, I'm so sorry about the hiccup in the discussion. In the end, everyone here just wants to help you get the best system possible. Both the P55 and X58 are great choices. If your on a budget, going with a P55 platform isn't a bad idea at all. Also, if you would like to speak to one of our sale reps, feel free to contact our Lead Sales Manager, Sarah, at: [email protected] or email me at: [email protected]

Thank you everyone for your support and great help in our community, on behalf of Digital Storm, we thank you all for it!
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  Quote Stormy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 11:38pm
Thanks very much, I'm very sorry that this discussion started any sort of turbulence for lack of a better word between users, wish I could have gotten a better of idea of what to get in terms of a graphics card but perhaps contacting a sales manager is a better choice then a forum. Thanks again for any and all help provided from everyone on here, it was greatly appreciated, also wish I knew enough about platforms to follow alot of the discussion, I have alot more to learn to be able to comprehend a lot of that LOL.
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