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Post Date: 2013-04-27

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  Quote Kaotik Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Air Flow or H20?
    Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 12:54pm
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Question: Is there a significant difference between the Air Stage 2 Noctua, Air Stage 1, or H20 standard? I may change the OC to Stage 1, but definitely don't plan to go extreme OC, and I don't want a small airplane in my room (noisy). It says the case comes with noise dampening, I'm not choosing to Noise reduction option they offer. Should I?

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Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Obsidian 550D
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.40 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 4GB (Includes PhysX)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Noise Reduction: - Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material)
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)

Edited by Kaotik - 28 Apr 2013 at 3:35pm
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 1:18pm
The noctua i heard won't fit in the 550D. i think the stage air 1 cooler can fit if not its the h20 standard. The Slade is designed to be a quiet case so i think you would need the noise suppression package if you don't want noisy.

Others might chime in and give you some good tips or advice

Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 27 Apr 2013 at 1:21pm
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  Quote storm0545 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 1:21pm
I was looking over your build and while you may not want to extreme oc picking the stage 1 will at least give you an overclock without voiding the warranty. I saw this because in case you ever decided after you bought it to DIY overclock it would void the warranty i believe. also I am curious as to why you chose windows 7 ultimate instead of just basic windows 7 home premium. unless you need the features that come with it you could shave off about 100 bucks off your price by switching to the basic home premium.

As for the cooling the liquid cooler would probably be more then enough if you're not going to overclock it/pick the stage one oc though I believe the case says it may be louder then what is originally advertised with that particular cooler.



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  Quote Kaotik Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:14pm
Honestly, there's no reason for Ultimate. I have Vista Ultimate and like the desktop schemes that have motion. But I don't NEED that, and really don't need anything else on there. I should just get the Home Edition.

To clarify on ArkansasWoman's response, the Slade says it's designed to be a quiet case, and that it has noise reduction material. So I would still need to pick the Noise reduction option as well?? Oh, NEVERMIND... I just noticed the... erm, Notice... at the top of the build page that says how I set it to be a quiet case. Reading FTW?
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:30pm
Arkansas is right..... the Noctua won't fit.    The Noise Reduction stage 1 is optimizing the fan speeds, specifically the Vortex 120 to lower the fans a bit for noise reduction.      If you go 550d then the Vortex 120 is what they recommend for quiet.   If you went with Vortex 240 or Corsair H 100 the top panel has to stay off because the radiator mounts under the top and the noise increases.

Just FYI, the 550d is a real nice case, but when you go quiet it usually means a closed case with less airflow.   For a single card system like you have it'll work just fine.   

I like your original 500r for better cooling but not everyone likes what I like.

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  Quote Kaotik Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:35pm
Yeah, I know that it'll be closed and therefore have less airflow, but I don't plan to OC it beyond the processor's Stage 1 they offer. Any GPUs I'd run at spec. I'd eventually like to Dual-SLI 660s, but I can't afford it right now. :-/ They don't offer the 500r as an option anymore it seems, or at least not on the model I picked.
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:40pm
The 500r is still on the site.

Click on the dreadnought, click customize, then next to chassis model click edit its on that list

Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 27 Apr 2013 at 2:41pm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:43pm
Arkansas beat me to it.   
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:44pm
Originally posted by bprat22

Arkansas beat me to it.   


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  Quote Kaotik Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:55pm
Oooh!! Going through the Spec Ops line. I went Black Ops. That'd be why
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  Quote Kaotik Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 3:05pm
Wow, going through the Dreadnought I was able to get the price down to $1801, and that's with the Stage 2 Noise Reduction.

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Carbide 500R (Black Finish)
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.40 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps)
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material)
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)

Edited by Kaotik - 27 Apr 2013 at 3:12pm
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  Quote Mouseguard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 2:58pm
I went with the 500r case, due to size restrictions, I should be getting by the end of next week at the earliest =), looks like a nice case though. Congrats!
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  Quote storm0545 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 3:29pm
The dreadnaught doesn't need the stage 2 noise reductions as those large slow moving fans on the hafx case don't make much noise at all and still push through a lot of cold air for your components.  if you picked that option you're just wasting money. 
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by storm0545

The dreadnaught doesn't need the stage 2 noise reductions as those large slow moving fans on the hafx case don't make much noise at all and still push through a lot of cold air for your components.  if you picked that option you're just wasting money. 



hes not getting the dreadnought though he picked the 500r, he had to go through the dreadnought line to find the 500r

Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 28 Apr 2013 at 3:32pm
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  Quote Kaotik Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 3:37pm
Updated the build and saved ticket # to reflect what I settled on. Actually have it listed in a different post:

Finalizing My Mind... Dreadnought???
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 4:17pm
I think liquid cool would cut down on dust in the computer itself.
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