Alex please clarify

What I meant was what I asked, if you have your own question then ask,.

which BTW you asked the same question I asked but in a different way

May I suggest Thunderdome for you two?

HM the question is to Alex and yet here you are replaying to my question to Alex.

and I'm the one that wants to argue



@Alex thank you.

now I have another question, if a person OC-es a q9550 and chooses a 1333MHz ram,

would OCing that ram help overall OC (aka workth it) or again the answer is not really?

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2008 at 5:54pm

What time does DS go on lunch break?

SunfighterLC the below comment is not directed at you, thank you for your input.

@HM
I'm waiting for an answer from Alex, the thread is directed toward Alex.

if your name is not Alex, please do not reply, my question is for Alex.

thank you.

So just to clarify, they don't touch teh settings of the ram when you don't choose to OC the ram. which is what chris said.

so chris was right.

now Alex:

if a person OC-es a q9550 and chooses a 1333MHz ram,

would OCing that ram help overall OC (aka workth it) or again the answer is not really?


Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2008 at 6:15pm

I'm waiting for an answer from Alex, the thread is directed toward Alex.

if your name is not Alex, please do not reply, my question is for Alex.

thank you.

So just to clarify, they don't touch teh settings of the ram when you don't choose to OC the ram. which is what chris said.

so chris was right.

now Alex:

if a person OC-es a q9550 and chooses a 1333MHz ram,

would OCing that ram help overall OC (aka workth it) or again the answer is not really?


Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2008 at 6:18pm

So just to clarify, they don't touch teh settings of the ram when you don't choose to OC the ram. which is what chris said.

so chris was right.

now Alex:

if a person OC-es a q9550 and chooses a 1333MHz ram,

would OCing that ram help overall OC (aka workth it) or again the answer is not really?


Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2008 at 6:22pm

How long is the extended wait time for tech support?

Edited by XpubuX - 27 Oct 2008 at 6:29pm

Gentlemen. That is QUITE enough from all participants. I am quite sure this can be resolved quite easily. I am not the one to go to for these questions i can onlys peak from my personal experience and the things I've witnessed. The people to ask are Venom, Alex, Duke, Hai, Sarah. They work first hand with these machines wereas I am just the guy you talk to on the phone when UPS beats your package around and I help you pick up the pieces.

Much as I like to read most of your posts you guys are just acting ridiculous. How many times in the past two months have I had to step into these discussions because you let them get out of hand. Please do all of us a favor and stop argueing about this, a discussion is fine but you guys constantly argue about something that is nothing more then your own personal preference/opinion.

Enough of this guys. If you have advice please make sure its clear that any advice given is given as is and is nothing but YOUR take on the matter. If this can be followed we won't have people on our forums at eachothers throats.

SunfighterLC, You are correct.

XpubuX, We have different lunch times, it depends... The forums is a open community for customers to talk to each other. Digital Storm employees do their best to help, by even volunteering to interact on the weekends, however, they do have phone calls, voice mails, and emails to allocate higher priority to. If you need an official answer please (call (if no one is available, leave a voice mail), and/or send an email to [email protected]).

harleyman, You are also right.

Edited by Alex - 27 Oct 2008 at 7:51pm

Originally posted by DST4ME thank you again Alex. I originally emailed Chris, but got no response, so I opened this thread.

That would explain alot I never go that email. You sent it to [email protected]? Well I wonder whats going on with that. Glad Alex could clear this up with you and make sure that it went to [email protected]

Right as you made that post I went and checked and changed it. My MSN was listed as the spartan email, I hadn't changed it to my DSO email yet. *facepalms*

NP biggie, at-least we figured it out now

Alex clearup a bit of confusion for me here please:

2. If you are using an Intel Chipset for example and you do not have a "unlocked multiplier" (A.K.A.) Extreme Edition processor, we would have to increase the FSB. As you overclock the FSB, it also increases the memory clock rate. If you purchase 1333MHz, it would limit how high we can push your FSB (overclock) because the memory would not run at higher speeds.

ok but say you pushed that fsb to 1600, if you over clock the ram to 1600 wouldn't that have the ram run at higher speeds?

you said: "memory speed (clock-rate)"

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2008 at 8:24pm

Thank you Alex.

so then you are saying that overclocking the ram is definitely worth it, if the processor is overclocked also.

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2008 at 9:38pm

Originally posted by DST4ME no I'm just saying timing but I mean all settings. Alex already said that DS does not touch the ram if you choose to not OC it. but wouldn't OCing a ram, (speed, timing, voltage) of 1333MHz help when OCing a 1333MHz FSB?

No

Originally posted by DST4ME I would say yes, take the speed up to 1600 and adjust timing and voltage and you get a better more stable over all OC.

While overclocking 1333 to 1600 would improve the memory bandwidth, lowering the timings would improve latency, but you would probably need an insane amount of voltage for the ram to be stable at that speed/timings.

Originally posted by DST4ME I understand why a 1600Mhz ram needs not to be oced but I just want DS's official stance on 1333MHz.

Neither of them do for a CPU overclock, 1333mhz ram gives you the ability to have a 2666mhz FSB, while 1600mhz gives you the ability to have a 3200mhz FSB, neither of which are attainable on nVIDIA motherboards without extreme voltage/cooling of the chipset, mosfets, pwms, etc...


Edited by venom - 27 Oct 2008 at 11:11pm

Originally posted by Alex To add to that, the higher on the clock-rate you go, the more better of quality the memory chips are. All chips are made the same method, but, the memory companies "bin" them to see how far they can be pushed.   Personally, even if I purchased 1333MHz memory, or 2133MHz memory, I would still buy the memory overclocking option because:   1. I get to take advantage of the higher clock-rate (if I purchased higher than 1333MHz) 2. I get lower timings to increase my FPS during game play 3. I get a cool fan to cool my memory.   Cheers, Alex

I agree Alex but everytime I say that to a customer, HM tells the customer:

Originally posted by harleyman Unless you want the ram fan no reason to OC your ram as they will have to reset the timings and voltages anyway for your CPU OC.....

Originally posted by harleyman I never recomend to OC your Ram if you are going to OC the CPU... Because to OC the CPU the ram timings and voltages will need adjusted anyway....   But if its the fan you're after then by all means go for it  as stated above.....

Edited by DST4ME - 28 Oct 2008 at 12:34am