Alternatives to the Ode

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   Hi there. I was seriously considering getting the ODE but Mother Nature decided to attack and mine wasn't ordered in time. So, now with the black friday sales it seems the others are within my budget range ($2000) I don't really want to go that much over.

I'm now considering this one: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadrenegade.asp?id=614822

I was considering the ODE Level 2. But, it'd end up costing me an additional $150 + price of components to change the lights to green (I don't like red), get the 1 terabyte drive, and the bluray drive.

Are there any other suggestions you all have? I'd like to keep everything under $2,400 if possible because I'll be paying $300 in Californian taxes + shipping.

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master Elite 430
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X58 (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA Edition)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: FREE: Batman: Arkham City (Available only with NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphic cards)
Display: Acer 22 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set
Keyboard:  Logitech Media Combo MK200 Keyboard and Mouse
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

I like the ODE casing to be honest, and might go back to that and just leave the red lights off. Does anyone have other suggestions of builds? My gaming resolution is 1440x900, my price budget is $2,000ish. I use two screens one for game and one for not so I don't need SLI. I live in a high heat zone (California) with 100 degree weather for 5 months of the year, and 80+ for 8 months. For internal lighting or design, my favorite color is green. 

I expect to be able to play my games without freeze-ups and would like to play on ultra settings. I like to play World of Warcraft mainly, or sometimes Children of the Nile or Dragon Age. Not a fan of fps shooters. I want this computer to last me an easy five years. I like to have a second screen while playing with Netflix on or hulu. I usually keep my computer on for about 12 hours a day. Can't do much else when I'm terminally ill. :)

For those of you whom are going to comment about the promobundle, add the prices yourself, you save $1 if you choose them separatly. 

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ashkir Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34	Quote Reply Topic: Alternatives to the Ode Posted: 09 Nov 2011 at 1:08am
	Hi there. I was seriously considering getting the ODE but Mother Nature decided to attack and mine wasn't ordered in time. So, now with the black friday sales it seems the others are within my budget range ($2000) I don't really want to go that much over. I'm now considering this one: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadrenegade.asp?id=614822 I was considering the ODE Level 2. But, it'd end up costing me an additional $150 + price of components to change the lights to green (I don't like red), get the 1 terabyte drive, and the bluray drive. Are there any other suggestions you all have? I'd like to keep everything under $2,400 if possible because I'll be paying $300 in Californian taxes + shipping. Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master Elite 430 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X58 (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA Edition) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: FREE: Batman: Arkham City (Available only with NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphic cards) Display: Acer 22 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display) Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set Keyboard: Logitech Media Combo MK200 Keyboard and Mouse Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty I like the ODE casing to be honest, and might go back to that and just leave the red lights off. Does anyone have other suggestions of builds? My gaming resolution is 1440x900, my price budget is $2,000ish. I use two screens one for game and one for not so I don't need SLI. I live in a high heat zone (California) with 100 degree weather for 5 months of the year, and 80+ for 8 months. For internal lighting or design, my favorite color is green. I expect to be able to play my games without freeze-ups and would like to play on ultra settings. I like to play World of Warcraft mainly, or sometimes Children of the Nile or Dragon Age. Not a fan of fps shooters. I want this computer to last me an easy five years. I like to have a second screen while playing with Netflix on or hulu. I usually keep my computer on for about 12 hours a day. Can't do much else when I'm terminally ill. :) For those of you whom are going to comment about the promobundle, add the prices yourself, you save $1 if you choose them separatly.

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2011 at 1:24am
	ashkir you have gone with the old platform, we don't recommend that. the 2600k is much more powerful that the 960. I don't recommend any of those parts, for 2500 you can have the new platform with sli 570 almost, not that you need it but just to say how much more you can get. plus for you res why would you get the 580? what you have done here without realizing it is to put money toward all the things that don't count or you don't want, and taken money away from things that do count and you do want. IMHO ode 2 us pointless for the money it does not bring forth extra performance over ode 1. Edited by DST4ME - 09 Nov 2011 at 1:26am
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ashkir Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34	Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2011 at 1:42am
	I chose ODE Level 2 over Ode Level 1 for the cooling system being better for my area and not all dependent upon fans. And I chose it for the 580 card because it'd would ideally last me longer then the 570. Also, I like the idea of a solid state drive when the previous does not offer it. What platform do you recommend? These things 2600 960 etc = gibberish for me.

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2011 at 2:26am
	your are mistaken. ode 1 has teh better cooling. lc is not better when temps are hot, both lc and air use fans to cool things down, if your room temp is hot, then the fans aer blowing hot air, so lc or not you are going to have temp issues, but in this case teh h60 is inferior to the a70, a70 and noctua are king in cooling till you get to stage 4 lc. 580 would not last you longer then 570, at your res they will both out live the pc itself, but even at 1900 x 1200 difference is unnoticeable. this build is on the x58 platform (look at your mobo) the x58 is the old platform, the newer platform is the p67/68. the x58 uses the 9xx cpus (920/930/950/960/980/990) the p67 uses 2xxx cpus (2600k, 2500k,etc)
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ashkir Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34	Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2011 at 2:37am
	Why does the ODE 1 provide the better cooling? Will it still be the better cooling if the machine is in 80 degree air? What builds would you recommend, besides the ODE? I want something that can last me 5 years at least. What does h60 mean? what does mobo mean? What does x58 platform mean? Edit: How's this build then? $2,377.00 http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=614844 Or $2,280.00 http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=614868 Edited by ashkir - 09 Nov 2011 at 5:18am

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2011 at 5:35am
	ode 1 has better cooling cpu cause it uses the a70, at 80f room temperature even if the cpu temp was fine, the gpu temps will be high, probably higher then what is accepted. h60 is the cpu cooler in ode2 it gets beat by the cpu cooler in ode 1 which is the a70. mobo = motherboard. Each new line of mobo that comes out is called a platform, for example my pc is on x58 platform, the "x58" specifies which model it is, so mine is the x58, the one after that is p67/z68 and the one after that is the one coming out this month the x79. those builds each have problems, didn't I help build a custom config already? cause if you want a pc that will last a long time, you don't want to use some of those parts.
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