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Frozen Anvil
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Topic: Another config post for DST4ME Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 4:01pm |
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Cooler Master HAF 922 Midi Tower Black Fans: 1x 200mm Front, 1x 200mm Top, 1x Rear 120mm fan, Red LEDs On/Off
Corsair TX 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.2, 80 Plus, Standard. 2x 6+2-pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 120mm Fan Crucial DDR3 BallistiX 1333MHz 6GB CL7 Kit w/3x 2GB BallistiX modules, CL7-7-7-24, 1.65V, for Core i7, GREEN Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R, X58, Socket-1366 CrossFireX, DDR3, ATX, GbLAN, Firewire, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16 Intel Core™ i7 Quad Processor i7-920 Quad Core, 2.66Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, 130W, Boxed w/fan LG 22" LCD W2261VP-PF 1920x1080, 2ms, 50000:1, Full HD, HDMI Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium EN OEM, 64bit Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB 7200RPM, SATA 3.0 Gbps, 3,5", 16MB Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5240S DVDRW 24x, DL, SATA, Bulk, Black ------------------------------------------------- Intentions: Gaming at high resolution, future proof, upgradeable, etc. I await your wisdom with open arms. |
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DST4ME
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you building this yourself?
future proof = room to grow = fulltower future proof = power to grow = 1000w corsair so lets go with 932 and 1000w corsair you gonna want 1600MHz ram, don't need to be nothing fancy some good mushkin will do great. gonna wanna go with a classified mobo to have both room to grow gpu-wise and have room for other cards (sound card, tv card, usb/sata card, wireless card, etc.)if not then atleast 3x sli which will max out at tri sli/cf with no room left for anything else. the gigabyte you have picked can only do max of dual sli/cf, but if that is all you need then its a good board and does 2 x 16 I believe, not sure. if you want xp mode and networking then go with win7 pro get a good cooler like Noctua d14, I'm sure justin will help you oc it, lol. Edited by DST4ME - 03 Feb 2010 at 4:25pm |
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Frozen Anvil
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Thank you, sir. Your comments are duly noted and I will make the necessary adjustments.
Q: What is a good classified mobo and are you an nvidia or ati man and why? |
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DST4ME
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I fold a lot so I'm an nvidia guy, I used to be ati man long time ago but then moved over to nvidia for better performance.
classified for your res I would go with a 5870 right now, towards the end of the month fermi should be announced and soon after released so if you want to wait the nvidia will have better performance. Edited by DST4ME - 03 Feb 2010 at 7:18pm |
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Frozen Anvil
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Thanks. I'm surprised to hear you say you are an Nvidia man. I just read a four page thread which had your 10cents about the superiority of the 5870. I'm so confused...
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Frozen Anvil
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The DST4ME upgrade:
Cooler Master HAF 922 Midi Tower Black Fans: 1x 200mm Front, 1x 200mm Top, 1x Rear 120mm fan, Red LEDs On/Off Corsair TX 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.2, 80 Plus, Standard. 2x 6+2-pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 120mm Fan [1Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998776 - Retai EVGA E760 CLASSIFIED 3-Way SLI + PhysX 1366 Intel X58 EATX Intel Motherboard - RetailIntel Core™ i7 Quad Processor i7-920 Quad Core, 2.66Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, 130W, Boxed w/fan LG 22" LCD W2261VP-PF 1920x1080, 2ms, 50000:1, Full HD, HDMI Microsoft Windows 7 PRO 64bit Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler - Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB 7200RPM, SATA 3.0 Gbps, 3,5", 16MB Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5240S DVDRW 24x, DL, SATA, Bulk, Black |
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Just because I'm an nvidia man, it does not mean that I will backup nvidia when it has less performance.
right now for our money, ati has the best card out, I wish nvidia did have one that I could point to, but it does not, they should have, but there is been problems so till fermi comes out, ati is the best card for your money, but I still love nvidia and can't wait till the fermi comes out so I do have a card to point to that is a better bang for the buck. if you search back far enough you will see me recommending 275 gtx left and right, till the 5870 came-out. Edited by DST4ME - 03 Feb 2010 at 7:44pm |
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the case needs to be 932 and your psu needs to be bigger, you can't sli cf with a 650w.
you dont need the amount of ram you are ordering, all you need is 3 x 2GB mushkin ram. this will do go for a 500GB 32MB cache like this one Edited by DST4ME - 03 Feb 2010 at 7:50pm |
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Thank you again. All I need now is your address to ship these parts to for the surgery.
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lol OH I would be more then happy to build this and put next my other ones
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I have a Win7 Home Premium
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Frozen Anvil your mobo is a x58 platform that means you can only use socket 1366 cpu, (920, 940, 950, 960 , 965, 975)
if you are going to oc then just get the 920, you can oc it to 3.6-3.8GHz and that is fast as hell. if not then get the 960 but then you don't need the Noctua, cause we only need that for oc. ask justin if he will help you oc it, if he will then he can save you lot of money and get real fast speed. for gpu go with this one SAPPHIRE if you want life time warranty go with xfx but I personally don't like xfx at all. Edited by DST4ME - 03 Feb 2010 at 9:28pm |
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Awesome. Thanks for that heads up, DST.
Did you notice the 700$ diff between the two very similar configs? I understand that with DS I will get a warranty on the computer as a whole vs. individual parts by building my own. Not to mention that peace of mind of having professionals do it, but that is a large price disparity. Any thoughts, DST? |
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have you built a PC before? For that much cash you could build something pretty decent, but I would not use one single part that you listed. lol
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Here is the DS ticket with the i7 920: 380439
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Welcome aboard, Mr. Justin.
I do plan on building this myself and DST has been helping me avoid oversights like the 980 on a socket 1366 cpu You wouldn't use any of this?! Oh my aching brain... Edited by Frozen Anvil - 03 Feb 2010 at 10:47pm |
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This thread is a dual question thread:
1) Please help me select/optimize my original newegg config so I can build it 2) Help me understand why a very similar computer on DS is considerably more expensive than ordering the same parts myself. Thanks to both of you. I will name my first two children DST and Mr. Kerr |
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just to assemble the computer you last listed would take about 20 min, load windows and done.. but DS is all about overclocking, which takes time, and increases the loads, which also increases heat, which also must be dealt with. So like I said, I could build it in 20 min, if I took a couple beer breaks. lol but it would take a couple weeks to get the whole PC optimized, as far as all of the different components to overclock, adjust, get to work in concert. This is what takes the time, and the skills come into play. note $$ lol
So if you just want a plain Jane PC with the BIOS just set to default, get a HP/Dell it will be cheaper. If you want everything overclocked, and optimized have DS build it, or try it yourself, but if it is your first time, remember it will take a lot of your time, and frustrate the heck out of you, and if you fry parts, it is up to your wallet to replace them.. just my $.02
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Frozen Anvil
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Interesting.
So OC'ing the processor only would still take a lot of time to have everything working in concert? I wouldn't be messing with the GPU or RAM. "it would take a couple weeks to get the whole PC optimized, as far as all of the different components to overclock, adjust, get to work in concert. This is what takes the time, and the skills come into play." DS offers GPU, RAM, and processor OC'ing. In all my fantasy configurations I only have the processor OC'd. Your above quote confuses me. What else is DS doing to the computer? I'm curious as to why you wouldn't use any of the parts I listed. I assume (and we all know what that means) that DST would have spoken up if he saw parts that he didn't like. What is your opinion on them? Edited by Frozen Anvil - 03 Feb 2010 at 11:01pm |
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see, thats the thing, when you overclock the CPU, you are going to have to adjust the RAM, along with other parameters, novice overclockers have a lot of problems that usually stem from not looking at the big picture, and focus on just trying to overclock the CPU, and end up with a lot of issues, or unstable mess. So it all depends on what you want out of the PC, how much $$ you want to invest, how much time you want to put into it.
The parts list was not a very good balance, it would make an ok machine, but not one that I would want to work on. lol This rig is not about what I want, it is about what you want, and that is the tough part.
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lol for justin of course he needs the best at everything, for a regular user that wants 3.8GHz oc, those parts are perfect, DS is doing it with slower ram, so I don't see an issue, now if you want to benchmark and get the a system you want to have a very high oc on, then yes the parts needs to be changed.
for around $2400 you can have a pc from DS Oced with a 3x sli mobo, 1000w corsair, 5870 and Noctua in a haf 932 |
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I said fot the $$ I would have changed everything, same $$ just a way better build. lol
But, I still have a hard time giving out a parts list, because I know what the parts are capable of, some components are very underrated, and can be pushed a long ways, while others just bareley do the minimum. But in the hands of others, it won't make a difference if they don't know how to massage the parts into performing better.
If you have never built a system, then I would suggest buying a PC from DS, and maybe try building a $300 PC and try your hand at overclocking, tweaking, ect. You 100% have to run 100's of benchmarks when you do this, so that you can see how each tweak will effect the performance. otherwise you will be just pushing things blindly, and will have no idea what is what..
By doing this you don't/can't like it you are not out so much $$, but if you do, then the time you want a awesome rig, you can do it yourself.
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Frozen Anvil
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I understand. It's not just OC'ing the CPU, which you could find 1000's of how-to guides online, but tweaking everything else to maximize performance.
My conundrum now is that I see a huge price difference between a DS rig and a darn near identical rig constructed of individually purchased parts. I just need a master tech to assemble/OC it to perfect stability. The difference in price was $700. I could probably pay someone a fraction of that to assist me. There are a lot of tech people that could use a side job in this economy. Thanks for the help guys. DS, if you confirm that those parts are A-Ok then I will buy them and begin the great adventure. |
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I think for a basic setup and moderate oc these parts are fine, I knew you would not like the mobo or the ram, but thats because you know what you know, you have to put yourself in others shoes and look at from their point of view and as you said realize that others can't do what you can do, if I were to config a system for you, I would not use the same parts either, first and foremost you will never go for that ram lol.
@Frozen Anvil, OCing is not a tech thing, its a oc thing, just becasue somebody is a tech, it does not mean they know how to oc. also as I said, your build is around $1900, for around $2400 DS can have it built,oced, tested and shipped. thats $500, keep in mind: 1. with DS you getting 3 year warranty, with newegg you are not. 2. with that price difference you are getting a 5870, not a 5850. 3. system is oced and test, you are not gonna get that with your price. so in short, the $500 difference, has about $100 in it due to the 5870 instead of 5850, so now we are at $400 difference, and that $400 is for 3 year warranty, tech support, OC, and testing. when you look at the big picture and take every thing into account you will see that the DS system cost less, as soon as one of your parts go bad, that will be come very very very clear. ok well looks like the price difference is actually even less: Here you go Ticket# 380589 --- Price: $2355 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2355 Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - Not Available Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: - Not Available Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty well I thought it was gonna be $2400 or a bit higher, looks like its less, so its not even a $400 difference anymore, its more like $350 for 3 year warranty,tech support, oc, and testing. |
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I felt the need to point out a few things about this that irked me. You can indeed get some items cheaper elsewhere, some things quite a bit cheaper even. This varies over time, if there was something I could fault DS for it would definitely be how infrequently they update the prices of the majority of their items even though prices at retailers for said items have already or are in the process of plummeting. However the extra you pay at DS goes toward everything else they provide. Beside the obvious of putting together and install said computer parts they make sure everything fits, everything is compatible, and they do the overclocking. This doesn't sound like much when said plainly, but it means the world because of return policies and shipping times. Certain parts end up not fitting together on a certain motherboard? Retailer doesn't care. Power supply doesn't have the right kind of connection for your parts? Retailer doesn't care. Video card blocking access to your sata ports? Retailer doesn't care. CPU cooler blocking access to two of your ram slots because you use high profile (tall) ram sticks? Retailer doesn't care. You bought it, you're stuck with it. Purchase an item and it is genuinely defective? Well that sucks, retailer will replace (not refund) it then, but you'll have to wait a few weeks to proceed any farther because of shipping times. Overclocking. It takes a long time and is not easy. You know what else it does? It nulls warranties. Fried something while trying to overclock it? Retailer doesn't care. Fried something after half a year of use because the overclock was stable but put too much stress on the part over time? Retailer doesn't care. DS builds it, makes sure all the parts are in working order, makes sure everything is compatible, lets you know of any compatibility or heat issues and presents options on how to address them, does the painstaking and time consuming overclocking and stress testing. And then you know what they do after that? They warranty it for a minimum of 3 years (with the option of up to 5). You pay someone to help you assemble and overclock a computer and you are definitely not getting a warranty, and probably not the quality. Anywho, just my 2 cents. Like DS staff like to sum it up as frequently, you are paying for piece of mind. |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 4:23pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well said.
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Frozen Anvil
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 3:59pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I agree with everything you said. I have more peace of mind now with DS. I hope that they consider this statement as well:
I could fault DS for it would definitely be how infrequently they update the prices of the majority of their items even though prices at retailers for said items have already or are in the process of plummeting. @DST: It was always a 5870 Thank you everyone. Edited by Frozen Anvil - 05 Feb 2010 at 4:06pm |
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Mekerek
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 5:53pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance
Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
People keep using this in the config, why is this better than a little extra and getting the Corsair Dominator DHX Memory? (+44 more) And for that quote above.. how do I tell what base it was built from? |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 6:20pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
better in the sense it is cheaper, with the same speed and timings
Explain what you mean by "base"
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Mekerek
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If I goto the website I get the Black Ops or the other side with less available to change.. I pick on of those.. and add things.. changes what the base price is that the + items are added to. I was trying to figure out which unit this was from as a base so I can try other base units upped or downed to those specs pieces.
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Simpleviet
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 7:44pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
hmmm from what I understand the base price would be best to base it on a retail of the parts then start minusing off the prices here and see what is left over. Though its never really accurate...best thing to do is make a phone call? :D |
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Frozen Anvil
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 9:34pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Is getting LC for a OC processor w/single GPU necessary? And what model of Noctua 120mm does DS use?
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Dragoonseal
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Since it says dual 120mm fans I'd assume it has to be the Noctua U12P SE2 as that is the two fan version of the U12P. Also Noctua's site says the original U12P is now discontinued. And no if you're not going to have a lot of heat in your case (HAF932 for the win) then LC is not a necessity for your CPU. You could get a little/somewhat better overclock with LC but you can still get a very respectable overclock from air cooling, especially with either of the Noctua coolers. This comes down to personal choice with how much of an overclock you want to shoot for and how much you're willing to spend on the cooling. Edit: Also there are the issues of occasional maintenance on LC systems or noise from air cooling. Neither are very significant though. For LC maintenance it mostly just means occasionally topping off the liquid amount and after a number of years flushing and replacing. As for the noise from air cooling the good ones are actually pretty damned quiet (Noctua), the majority of the computer's noise will end up coming from the GPU fans and power supply fan, but some people insist on extremely quiet computers and thus prefer LCing. Edited by Dragoonseal - 05 Feb 2010 at 9:55pm |
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